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Posted by ShireGuy on December 26th 2006, 1:36

First let me say thanks one and all for being here and making this a great forum! I have several horses (female), and have been zoo for quite a while (20 + years). I really enjoy the company of my girls, they mean the world to me. I also like to be intimate with them when they are interested. I think this is a great forum, and some folks are posting some really great material. I only wish I had access to the elite member forums. I would like to post some more of my own material, but I am a bit concerned about security. I know not to show my face or anything somebody could recognize. But I am just a bit concerned that once these pics go up, they are there on an indefinite basis. I'm just nervous about the whole thing. What have your (active posters) experiences and concerns been, and how have you been able to overcome them. Any advice would be appreciated. Repliers will be rewarded with my gratitude and also a vote of 10+. Oh yeah, and maybe some nice mare and man/mare pics! Thanks in advance. Mods, I realize that this could easily go in the general forum, but I really want to reach out to the members who actively post. I don't get to the general forum all that often, and I suspect others don't either. Thanks!

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Posted by satyrboy on December 26th 2006, 3:59

ShireGuy, I understand your concerns!! I've posted some regular (human/human) pics of myself, and was worried enough about them.Of course, like you said, never show your face - that's the big thing. If you're really concerned, here are some other things to watch out for: The background - make sure it is nothing distinctive (i.e., that someone might recognize as your house/barn/whatever). So be careful to have your action in front of a neutral background, or use Photoshop to blur it out, as some members do.Your mare - does she have distinctive markings? I so, avoid showing those bits, or also blur them out.Yourself - do *you* have distinctive markings (ike tattoos?). Again, if so, blur them out.If you're not too familiar with image editing programs, try playing around with some (Adobe Photoshop is my fave). Most of your privacy concerns can be addressed by using the tools to blur out distinctive elements. You can either use a mask function and then place a distorting filter over the masked area (like when people put a blurred rectangle over their eyes), or you can use a paintbrush tool and a neutral color to blur out areas freehand (handy if they are not rectangular!!).One last thing to check is file names - this is something that a lot of members do not pay much attention to, and often post images with what is clearly their real names on them. Either leave the default image names assigned by your camera, or give them a file name using your BF username or some other neutral system (e.g., instead of JohnDoe01.jpg, name the images or movies something like ShireGuy01.jpg or me_and_mare01.jpg). In short, don't put your own name in file names.That all said, I really wouldn't worry about it too much, as long as you don't show your face, that's the most important thing. And we look forward to seeing your posts!! Best of luck!

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Posted by ShireGuy on December 28th 2006, 3:10

Thanks Satryboy for the great response. Unfortunately the lack of additional input from others means my comfort level regarding posting my own new and original material will remain low. Ultimately this means I'll just stick to posting words, not pics. I do appreciate your thoughtful post though! Here's another 10+ vote! Thanks!

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Posted by Scots_Bill on December 28th 2006, 13:32

ShireGuy please dont be dishearted by the lack of reponse to your post, rember this is a holiday time and a lot of the members are away from thier computers and so are not here to read your posts. Satyrboy gave you good advice espeacialy about file names which is forgotton frequently. Look forward to your pictures even though I prefere dogs.

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Posted by rololover on December 28th 2006, 16:30

Hi ShireGuy.If you just take the simple precautions already outlined there really shouldn't be anything to worry about, but I would say that if you're not entirely happy, don't post until you are.There are enough things in life to worry about already, things we can't avoid, so if it will stress you, don't do it.I hope you will in time relax enough to enjoy posting your experiences.

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Posted by LadyPersephone on December 28th 2006, 19:36

Don't be disheartened. First I consider you brave for posting. I too am a little worried about privacy. Me more so cause i'm tattooed just about every noticeable place, so Photoshop will be a good friend. Be encouraged by the post you've received so far. All very positive and informative. And post to your heart's content any material you care to share. I'm sure once you post, all that feedback won't discourage you from future post. I look forward to your shares.

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Posted by ShireGuy on December 28th 2006, 19:51

Thanks guys for the input. I apologize for being impatient, I just really want to post some material. I am not sure why, but I think it would be a lot of fun. I could come up with some creative things to spice the pics up a bit and keep things interesting. We have all seen men with mares, men with dogs, women with dogs et cetra. The really great posts include some interesting commentary, or unusual things. Stuff posted by Taillifter for instance is very unique and interesting. As is stuff from Poneze2001. I really want to come up with some interesting and creative posts of my own. My girls all enjoy themselves, and I would like to share.The big thing I am concerned about is the server being compromised by an authority. If my e-mail address is stored on the server, which it is, could it be used to identify me? If I had man/animal material posted under my name, which is illegal where I live, could I be busted this way? The other thing on my mind is this; If somehow somebody does figure out who I am, I won't be able to get the evidence (all my material) off the server to protect myself. I realize that once somebody figures out your identity it's probably too late to worry about deleting all of your files. But you have to agree that at least it would be doing something. So while these scenarioes are not very likely, these are the concerns I need to be able to address before I feel comfortable posting anything other than just animal only pics.Thanks!

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Posted by satyrboy on December 28th 2006, 21:00

I see where you're going, ShireGuy - server security is a somewhat more ticklish matter, of course. Here's how I see it - the only *real* link they have to you is your payment information, but that is via a secure service, and even if the BF server was hacked, they would also need to gain access to the secure server, which is another matter entirely. Also keep in mind that even where zoo love is illegal, the laws are usually passive - i.e. they usually don't go hunting people down, since all of what little effort they expend that way is directed at people involved in kiddie porn. Personally, I'm not aware of a single instance in which any authorities have raided a zoo website, and I really doubt they would bother, since, like I said, they're much more worried about other things. After all, there are plenty of pro, pay websites where they make their own videos (like Caledonian and such), and they seem to be able to operate without any worries.So honestly (and not to tempt fate!), I don't think there's a whole lot to worry about in that regard. Zoo love is illegal where I live too, but I would still feel comfortable posting material (if, someday, I am able to make some! ), taking the precautions I listed above. Also, always remember that, as long as you remove identifying marks, even if the worst possible case scenario happens, you can always say it isn't actually you, and you just posted someone else's stuff pretending it was yours. I think the only way we zoos who live in places where the politicians are sadly shortsighted are really in risk is if someone actually sees us up behind our mares while passing by the pasture, and reports us to the police. All of the very few articles I've seen about zoos being busted were along those lines.One thing I really don't know about it if you cancel your account, if then the link between your payment info and your BF profile is lost - perhaps a moderator could inform us on this.Anyway, if you're still nervous, there are a few other things you can do to distance yourself from your posts: you can set up a free, un-paid-for account, so there's no like to your payment info (though this will conflict with your paid-for account - you'd need to discuss that with a moderator). Or, you can send the material you want to post to another BF member that you trust to post for you (I'd be happy to do it for you )- if you use an anonymous Hotmail account, there is little that can be traced back to you (I have one myself for private conversations with members). And I'm sure there are other ways, that perhaps others could suggest.But on the whole, I'd say that while I can understand your concern, I really don't think (again, not to tempt fate!) that any of us are in any real danger, especially because our mods are very strict about ensuring that no images showing rape/abuse appear on this site, and that's the one thing that would actually get the authorities active.Anyway sorry I rambled a bit, but I hope this helps to overcome your misgivings - I, for one, am eager to see what you can do!!

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Posted by Confederate on December 29th 2006, 0:57

my advice would be to just be very careful with what you do, and say

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Posted by Confederate on December 29th 2006, 1:17

amen Kellann101, if you fight ill fight with ya. did i mention im from Georgia to

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Posted by Wolfhound on December 29th 2006, 3:51

Hi Shire,First of all, let me say that if you are very nervous about posting pictures of your intimate encounters with your beautiful girls, then maybe you should hold off for the time being and allow your anxiety to subside a bit. There is no need to rush into something that you are not quite ready for!With regards to email and the server being hacked:There are several ways to eliminate your email worries. Many anonymous email addresses are available. Just google anonymous email and you will get a multiple hits. The chances are also very good that you can select an email address that it uses the same screen name you do here! If you are still aprehensive at that point you can then go to one of the big free email sites like yahoo, hotmail, gmail and when you register, you can use your anonymous email address and your "alternate" email address that those sites require. Of course all of those sites log your IP address and could feasibly trace back anything that is sent, however I've used both yahoo and hotmail for years and never once had any issue sending or receiving beast pics.If you are still worried, there are even more secure alternatives like anonymous re-mailers. These are also widely available.The point is that you have many venues for email and anonymous email, and those are the addressses that you can register with Beast Forum. YOu also have the ability to change your email address here in your preferences and it's immediate.I figured that I would offer you these options but again, do not post anything until you are totally comfortable. You might consider writing some true life stories as I did also. Sometimes you are able to paint a more vivid picture of erotic encounters through words than through an actual picture. It's enticing and captivating to visualize what is happening through the written word.Thank you for being here Shireguy!

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Posted by ShireGuy on December 30th 2006, 1:49

Thanks a lot everybody for your input. I am going to give this some deep thought. I just have a lot to loose. We all do, our freedom is at stake. And our pets. I don't want to have my best friends taken away! I feel relatively comfortable that I can post and not get caught, but the stakes are so high, I just don't know it it's worth it.Thanks again for the ideas!

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Posted by dixiedoll on December 31st 2006, 18:26

QUOTE (LadyPersephone @ Dec 28 2006, 07:36 PM) Don't be disheartened. First I consider you brave for posting. I too am a little worried about privacy. Same here... not w/ any tattoos, but I am just "small town private" when it cums to my life-style... I do NOT post pics because of family, job and/or church... but I also say "BRAVO" to those who can and will... you have to do what is right for you... always...I will always give honest advice and even relate a few stories now and then, but sorry, no pics...

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Posted by Barb Dyer on December 31st 2006, 19:31

+1 on avoiding the inclusion of any distinctive markings or backgrounds.Definitely rename the files, and with nothing distinctive like a participant's name or location. I suggest you do not leave intact whatever default name your camera gave the file, as that can help point to the brand of camera. If you want to go one step further, edit the "exif data" associated with the file, or even make a screen capture of it to completely divorce it from its original data and timestamp.And, assume that anything you post is then out of your hands, to be copied at will.

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Posted by Oldsaltblock on December 31st 2006, 22:28

Wow, this is all good information to have. Some of it, I am not computer literate to do, so, I think that I will stay away from posting pictures for a while myself. Not that I have any, since I am a closet zoo, but, I feel more secure posting words. I like writing anyway, and the family need not know about my other side.

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