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I must say I find all this stuff on this sight very interesting. I came here mainly to see if it was real that women can copulate with dogs, and they sure can. I always wonder if women do it. One thing I thought was just a fantasy was women copulating with horses, but that also seems to be possible. What really amazes me is that the women : Can do it with out having the horse restrained, do to the size issues and strength of the horse.That they can accomadate the penis , it would seem that some horses are to large in the pictures, how they can do it and how much goes in, or is it a trick?Are these women doing it because they enjoy it, or do to men's perversions , and just a way to make money by way of shows, photos, etc,?I am always interested in the women's point of view, for me it is only a turn on if the people involved like it , and a lot that is , or else it would be a turn off. Just curious!
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First... The stalions in the vids, I'm pretty sure, are tranquilised, anyone who knows horses would be smarter then trying to be serviced by a fully aware stalion I'd imagine.All women are built differently, and thus, some are able to acomidate the girth, and many can't too, but there's some practice in stretching involved as well... The vaginal canal can prove to be pretty flexable sometimes.Finally, personally, I'm not doing anything, for anything, if I'm not interested or comfortable with the act. Though, I'm sure there are people out there who do it just for money, etc.. It takes all types. I'm pretty sure, knowing the fellow girls that I know, there are very few, if any, chicks who would do it just for a man's perversion.In conclusion though, everyone has their own reasons in doing it, and their own reasons to share it, if they do.
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I'm confused... you've been a member here for over two years, and made over 200 posts, and are just wondering this now?
QUOTE I'm confused... you've been a member here for over two years, and made over 200 posts, and are just wondering this now? i have an answer for you joe...how big is a baby ? and where it come from ?you got your answer....
QUOTE (Särx @ Oct 31 2006, 07:18 AM) First... The stalions in the vids, I'm pretty sure, are tranquilised, anyone who knows horses would be smarter then trying to be serviced by a fully aware stalion I'd imagine.All women are built differently, and thus, some are able to acomidate the girth, and many can't too, but there's some practice in stretching involved as well... The vaginal canal can prove to be pretty flexable sometimes.Finally, personally, I'm not doing anything, for anything, if I'm not interested or comfortable with the act. Though, I'm sure there are people out there who do it just for money, etc.. It takes all types. I'm pretty sure, knowing the fellow girls that I know, there are very few, if any, chicks who would do it just for a man's perversion.In conclusion though, everyone has their own reasons in doing it, and their own reasons to share it, if they do. Well said!!!...
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QUOTE (Särx @ Oct 31 2006, 07:18 AM) First... The stalions in the vids, I'm pretty sure, are tranquilised, anyone who knows horses would be smarter then trying to be serviced by a fully aware stalion I'd imagine.
Tranquilised stallions In the 'Professional' vids it is common to either use a tranked or a post coital (just bred) stallion. He tends to just stand there, hanging out, and doesn't move around much.If he is not very hard. Just standing there quietly with his cock and balls hanging down. While the human 'Partner' is wiggleing, and jerking, and generally slapping his flesh around for minuets on end. Then he is in la-la land, and being used as a horse shaped dildo.If he is awake and interested, he will be moving around and trying to help 'Get it in'.
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I disagree... I don't know a single stud that's bred a mare and then remotely interested in dropping. Tranqs, by the way, can cripple a stallion. The drug normally used is acepromazine, which causes penile paralysis in stallions. The treatment, if not caught quickly and treated extensively, is penile amputation (aka, bye bye weanie) Don't do it!And I doubt all videos are of tranqed studs just because people are smart enough not to use a fully functional stallion There are plenty of skilled people (and some lucky people) out there that know how to work with stallions and breed with them. I know one person personally, and I've done it too. I wouldn't ever climb under a tranqed horse, lol, that's dangerous just in itself. More dangerous than being mounted, if you are prepared and cautious
Deacon, Sad but true facts.If you watch open pasture breeding you will notice that after a stallion services a mare and dismounts...A minute or so later he will often drop again to dry things out.If you are friends with him, you can approach and stimulate him gently and he will fully extend and remain so for cleaning, or other activity. The operative word for doing this is trust. If he does not trust you, then good luck. You will need it.But!! If you are working a production breeding farm stallion, I doubt you will ever see this...Few production stallions are ever friends enough to allow themselves to be handeled without the stimulation of a mare nearby. They are, 'By horse standards', insane...Never having had any social contact with other horses to speak of their whole adult life....And no I do not count fighting over a fence to be social contact.
The Stallion stations I have seen and know keep the studs worked turned out as well as collected. Now the temporment of indivudual animals involved is a nother matter. One of the most collected studs in one had a barn name black death wonder what the stud manager thought of the people who orsered his seamen?AI has left breeding a advertising game. Most "breeders" today deside the stallion to order from by a full page add and how inpressed the other people are over drinks at the party with how the horse looks. They have no clue if the horses legs are straight they have a brain or where it resides. The people do not care the trainer has to live with what these "horse people" hand them.Wile I have a chance to bash AI and its wondersLook at the breeds that bankrupted there registerys to straighten there stud books out after the "good members" used AI. Then the frozen seamen regestered and held long after the stallions death that because of the dissaperence of sire and dame cuppled with more money than god will leave the future full of this one bloodline of what no one can know.No one cares eather because the new so called horsemen fallow the money fancy party trail. I hope I was able to limit the time one breed keeps the seamen of a dead stud into there stud book. By now they may have changed that as well.Now that we have bashed the AI worldProbably should not have listed the trank name though. It is common Most of the vids I have seen studs are tranked not all. The home made sec seame to be normal refreshing to I might add. To play with a horse you need to spend a lot of time with it.Rus
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Well I hope the horses are "friends" with the people they are "mating " with and not "tranked". I feel that would be animal abuse. At any rate I am freaked out about this even if I was to witness it ,it seems like a "miracle" to me as a lot of things that happen in nature, be it horse sex , child birth from a women , etc etc etc
I am inclined to go along with most of what rus80 has said. With amateur movies, the lighting and camera angles are not always the best but at least it almost natural. Some do it for the pleasure, some are in it for the money, but a few do it just to show what they can have inside their bodys. As clweed said some stallions can and will drop out their manhood shortly after they have just shot a load weather it be in a mare or they were given a hand job. Like most males if they are stimulated in the right place they will get an erection ( it will not be as hard as the first but they can still keep it enlarged for quite a while, ) quite a few can even ejaculate again or at least let out some precome out. Years ago there was a close friend of mine who owned a gelding who could and would let it out. He was able to fully mount a mare and keep shoving it up her until he shot a blank inside her, on an average of three to five minutes or so later he had it out and hard again, if the mare was willing he would keep mount her several times before she would get a bit aggro at him for not leaving any seamen inside her. Yes as jo horney said the female body can be stretched a long way and still almost return to its original size. ie, "Child birth". After each birth the hole is a little bigger than it was before, that is why most doctors add a few stich to their vergina after child birth to make their hole a bit smaller.
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Child birth????all these 30 odd years and I thought childs came from under rocksDangwhow I understand your 2 fore legs out straight your tiny head between noze first.a push and you drag next you know your back legs are out and its dam cold. then its learn how to make all 4 legs work just to find food.childs have no pointed noze and only to legs there head does not come with a guide....Sounds like hurt to me... No No not me there not house broke eather.I'm back to my rock garden are you sure I do not have to wory about them.R
Stallions are very much like people when it comes to libido: Some get turned on with very little stimulation provided to them at the drop of a hat, others just about need a mare raging in heat flagging nose raised tail just inches away from his snout before he'll even consider getting excited. My stallion kinda falls in between. How I get him excited and wanting to play (with me)? I just take advantage of the certain cues that I know gets him excited, and it doesn't require a mare anywhere in sight. I know for a fact thats how they get the stallions excited enough for these ladies (or guys) to yank on them for an hour or so. 9 out of 10 times the stallion requires a mare to stand conveniently out of the camera shot. Once in a while you can see a mare stading quitely off to the side in these vids. Most of the time the mare isn't even in heat, usually the mere presence of the mare is enough to get most stallions going, especially since MOST stallions have very restricted assess to mares (or most horses in many cases) I also know for a fact that MOST of the stallions used in these videos are NOT tranquilized. The stallions used in these videos are usually handled quite frequently by thier handlers and are chosen for the video simply becuase its knowen for being patient and used to being handled and touched. (just not in the spot its normaly handled, but who cares) And yes, the girls in the videos quite frequently get thier bumps and bruises during filming! But their getting paid so they don't care. I know all this becuase I know an individual who owns and operates several of the well knowen beasty pay sites on the net.
Just wanted to point at the doctors don't sew stitches into the vagina after childbirth to make it smaller again... They do it because either the labia tear during childbirth, or the doctors themselves cut the labia to allow for easier passage of the baby... but I'll quit with the off-topicness now.
Look at there eyes and the way there penis reacts to what is going on.True the best studs I have known run with there own mares year around. This is getting hard because of market changes in horse industry as well as reduced sales of foals.In the days before the start of drug testing for many events show tranking was a problem in some places. I spent a lot of time learing the signs to spot it in training and showing. Both mares and studs. Ace is obvious in todays standards. I have owned geldings that had to be tranked to drop that had to be washed often. Assisted vets in all kinds of proceadures over the years. Got ripped on a horse I bought for a lot of money I did not know then there were drugs now that are long acting. Now I buy a horse I have blood drown and held to run a screen if weeks later there is a problem. I am not saying all are but I have issues that people see this and think everything goes like jacking a dog.I also am not comfortable that because the woman is paid the risks are not an issue. I will give you there are a very few studs who act as geldings I owned one a long time ago he was the safest horse I ever had to work. Produced champ foals too. He had no pleasure or want in non horse sex eather. Over 30 years later I have one stud who is realy good but he is a boy. The chance a non horse owner plays sexually with a stud horse he has only met casually and finds it all sweetness and come are slim. There are many varables. Your horse with you different story you know him nothing is unexpected except if he slips into breeding mode so deep he does not relise it is you. There are all ways risks .I just think sex needs to feel good and be fun for all. We all make changes in judgment dew to desire. I will fallow gsd's to the nearest bush. The dog cant total me if I give him my hand. I can miss the sevalence camera though dumb stupid wont do that again. A horse is a whole diferent matter. We who ride / train are in a far more knowledgeable possission. Knowing there thinking and reactions is our trade.Take care Rus
QUOTE (Särx @ Oct 31 2006, 11:37 PM) Just wanted to point at the doctors don't sew stitches into the vagina after childbirth to make it smaller again... They do it because either the labia tear during childbirth, or the doctors themselves cut the labia to allow for easier passage of the baby... but I'll quit with the off-topicness now. She is correct, it is called an Episiotomy (an incision into the perineum and vagina to allow sufficient clearance for birth) It is performed when there is a risk of tearing, a clean cut is easier to stitch as opposed to a tear. And yes, there is a joke pertaining to a Virgin Stitch!
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QUOTE (tazman99 @ Nov 1 2006, 05:53 AM) QUOTE (Särx @ Oct 31 2006, 11:37 PM) Just wanted to point at the doctors don't sew stitches into the vagina after childbirth to make it smaller again... They do it because either the labia tear during childbirth, or the doctors themselves cut the labia to allow for easier passage of the baby... but I'll quit with the off-topicness now. She is correct, it is called an Episiotomy (an incision into the perineum and vagina to allow sufficient clearance for birth) It is performed when there is a risk of tearing, a clean cut is easier to stitch as opposed to a tear. And yes, there is a joke pertaining to a Virgin Stitch! Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou! I couldn't remember the word for it for hte life of me! And talking to some buddies I have in the delivery room doctor field right now, they are almost 100% standard procedure for childbirth these days, nearly every single woman gets it done... Something to look forward too lol *shudder*
QUOTE (Särx @ Nov 1 2006, 01:15 AM) QUOTE (tazman99 @ Nov 1 2006, 05:53 AM) QUOTE (Särx @ Oct 31 2006, 11:37 PM) Just wanted to point at the doctors don't sew stitches into the vagina after childbirth to make it smaller again... They do it because either the labia tear during childbirth, or the doctors themselves cut the labia to allow for easier passage of the baby... but I'll quit with the off-topicness now. She is correct, it is called an Episiotomy (an incision into the perineum and vagina to allow sufficient clearance for birth) It is performed when there is a risk of tearing, a clean cut is easier to stitch as opposed to a tear. And yes, there is a joke pertaining to a Virgin Stitch! Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou! I couldn't remember the word for it for hte life of me! And talking to some buddies I have in the delivery room doctor field right now, they are almost 100% standard procedure for childbirth these days, nearly every single woman gets it done... Something to look forward too lol *shudder* Umm, I'm sure it is! Having been blessed with seeing the birth of my two, I wouldn't trade it for the world. I sit here tonight and am remembering what was going on this very night 6 years ago, as her water broke, all the fear, excitement and wonder it brings
I'm not feeling very well.
Hang in there RoloI know if the foal does not have 4 legs and little fluffly tail I will run to my garden fast.Drop by my garden its relaxing and the rocks understandRus
I am no horse expert by any stretch of the imagination but it does appear that most of the horses in the videos are not fully erect. I saw one video where it appeared as if the horse suddenly became aroused and fully erect while inside a girl. He literally lifted her off the bench she was laying on and, of course, she couldn’t get off him quick enough.I never really gave it another thought until now but it would make since that they have to do something; either tranquilize them or use them after they have mated with a mare.
This discussion is rather interesting and it brings so many things to mind that I really hadn't thought about in this context. The difference between the women in the 'professional' videos and horses I have seen in real life are marked. In fact the real life experience is almost scary with the stallions being rather frisky and almost certainly dangerous to anyone trying to climb underneath, whereas in the vids are rather docile. I recall a discussion with a friend who had seen a stage act involving a girl and a donkey, and remember him saying that the girl seemed drugged rather than the beast...which didn't seem to want to perform until they put something to it's nose which provoked it to thrust so hard the girl almost fell off the stage....It was a scene which I tried to imagine for many years, almost doubting it's possibility until seeing some of the vids on this forum... The 'profit or pleasure' discussion is also very interesting. So good to see the different viewpoints, although must admit it only makes me more curious than ever...
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YupReal power lots of risk.Rus
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