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Posted by Kokoro on October 17th 2006, 13:57

For most people, it feels very bad to lose an animal. However, if the relationship gets more intimate than usual, like... having sex and so on. Does it hurt extra much to lose the animal for you, or is it like losing a "non-intimate" animal?心 (心 = Kokoro (Heart))

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Posted by furisforfun on October 17th 2006, 14:22

I can only answer for myself, but I felt more at the loss of my last dog than I did losing any of my grandparents . That was quite a few years ago and I just don't seem to get that close with people .I dread the day I'll lose one of my current girls, but I wouldn't dodge that pain by not having dogs .

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Posted by Fasthumper on October 17th 2006, 14:38

I think it human to feel much more loss if someone you love dies. Sex is one of those things that can make to parts very very close, even if one of them are not human...And also if u live with someone and he/she/it dies the loss can be more than as ex grandparents wich you arent in contact with most of the time..Sorry for my englishThanks

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Posted by FeralSteel on October 17th 2006, 15:34

I would assume it would be a rather painful experience, considering your not only losing your pet but also your best friend/lover.In the in thats just life, and you have to take the good and the bad. Whenever I ask myself how would i feel when someone close to me dies, I would be extremely upset, but I try to think that hopefully by being a part of their life I made their time on this planet worthwhile and that they had a happy life.We all must come to pass someday, I hope that mine will be looked upon with sadness, but also with joy. Remembering the fond memories and stories that we gain as we live this life of ours.

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Posted by southflorida on October 17th 2006, 18:05

moved to zoo section

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Posted by Stripes on October 17th 2006, 19:32

The only relationships I have are with horses. I don’t think I would ever say that there is not a very strong emotional attachment to every one I have been with. I am an Equiphile; I have no attraction to any other species including my own. So for me, to lose a loved one is always painful. It is like losing a very close friend, and there is a lot of pain along the way. I have lost my first love, who I still consider to be the love of my life. To this day I still cry when I see a picture of her, and her accident still haunts me. She is one of those I know I will never get over, and never forget; she will always have a place in my heart... About two maybe three months ago I lost another equine that was dear to me ... luckily though I only lost her because I was forced to sell her. I have a hard time talking about her without breaking down, and I hate myself for having to be with out her. For me I know there is no way I could view any horse as just an animal, and their passing would definitely be cause for grief.

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Posted by FemalePuppy on October 18th 2006, 2:59

I consider intimate a relation when two people trust each other things that they might hide from other people, showing who they really are and being accepted for that, not just the case when two people have sex. With an animal, you always get an intimate relation; he accepts you for who you are (having sex or not), and for the love you bring to him, they don´t pretend to be anything they are not, and you don´t have to pretend either. In the human-human case, we use to hide ourselves to avoid rejection, specially those things related to sex. So, by having sex, some people feel that they are showing who they are and being accepted for that, and also feel trusted when the other person shows himself, then, the relation is more special than before. I think that´s the way most people think about sex, and that is why sex is related to intimacy. I think this thing doesn´t happend with an animal, because for them, in this sense, sex is meaningless, it´s just a good moment of pleasure and fun, like playing with a ball. This is how I feel about it, and I don´t know if it reflects everybody´s view.

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Posted by energydog on October 18th 2006, 4:01

I don't think this is question necessarily linked to sex. Zoophiles by nature, which I assume are the majority of the people who peruse this board, empathize more with animals than with people. Consequently, we form strong emotional bonds with our animal partners regardless whether we have sex with them or not. In fact I have seen many people breakdown crying insanely when a pet has to be put down at the vets. It is obvious these people share emotional bonds as strong as any as they would with a close human relative. Consequently, I think the zoophilic bonds we form with our partners has less to do whether we have sex with them and more to do with our inherint nature to be close to non human animals.

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Posted by kitaboi19 on October 19th 2006, 2:33

I'm gunna go ahead and "ditto" energydog's reply on this one. Doesn't matter whether or not your in a sexual or non-sexual relationship. Most zoo's, If they feel for their animal and loose him/her, its gunna be hard to go through with it. Doesnt matter if you are advancing or were advancing to sexual things, Its unfortunate, i guess. I recently just went through "loosing" one of my boi's, knew this dog for a little over 2 years and he just ended up moving, we just started getting into the "sexual" part of our relationsihip too, but because I lost him I'm not gunna say just because I didnt have sex with him I'm not gunna miss him.peace

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Posted by tigertail on October 20th 2006, 13:12

Life is to me precious all life those I'm close to I feel happy around, are a blessing to me and I try to be the same with them. When one is lost I've found that not much comforts you at first not the knowledge that the one lost is now in a better place nor that with time you will learn to live with the loss and that it won't hurt quite so much.I cry rarely, I've had a hard life, yet I still tear up even brake down and cry over the loss of my pets. I was often closer to them than any human my first cat, I loved with all my heart and none of my body. The hours I spent with him in sad time and glad will always bring joy to my heart and as for my dog who I loved with all my heart (and body) I will like wise miss but with that I will also regret what could have been and was only starting to be. I've had a lot of loss in my life and thankfully none that will plague me to my grave. I say that it's truly my choice how I miss them and remember them. The secret is to just live on and know that it will get better even if only in the end I thank God that I've found joy in my life again.To date I’ve lost three Cats one Dog one Grandfather and a Boyfriend (presumed dead) I still look for love in all my avenues whether friend or intimate. I have found another my girlfriend whom I plan to marry. The point of life is to live, times will get better

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Posted by moparmindy on October 23rd 2006, 7:39

when i lost my last girl dog it hurt bad ,i cryed for days i sat on my bed just looking at her picture .i missed her so bad .she had bin with me for ever .i just hope some day i get to see her again .the old saying is if there is no dogs in heavin i want to go wair they go i now have 5 dogs all female one im active with it dont matter to me i love them all the same it would hurt bad sex or no sex .take care mopar

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Posted by tundra on October 23rd 2006, 7:58

I have lost many lovers in the past, and it never gets any easier, or better. Each one hurts very much, some more than others as I have had a stronger bond with some than others, and my female shepard i have now i think is going to be the hardest yet i think, as our bond is extreamly close and intimate. atleast for me i'd have to say yes, it does hurt more than if it was "just a dog" or animal, to me she's my lover, my other half, and to loose that is almost unbearable at times. So much so that i have often thought of just not getting another girl after one passes, but so far i have been strong enough after a time of greiving to find another lover, but each time it gets harder, and I never forget each one, each one through the years is still in my memory, and i always remember a special part of them, and will always keep that close to my heart and never forget. My secret goal is to invent a way to make our lovers live as long as us, maybe one day the medical science will be up there for it, but probably not in my lifetime But one can always hope And yes i do believe in the "rainbow bridge" and i truely belive that each of my departed girls is waiting for me to arrive as well, and that we both will be united for all eternity, as if it is not the case, then I hope to go teh other way, as there can be no greater hell than to have to live without my girl. Tundra

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Posted by Custodian on October 23rd 2006, 21:11

My question for this thread and towards those strictly doing this sort of thing strictly for sex....how could it not hurt more? But that is just me.

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Posted by st benard on October 23rd 2006, 22:37

Yes it is sad to lose a close friend. It does not matter if they stand on four or two legs a lost friend is always missed.

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