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The discussion in the theme "Do you feel ashamed" by Down Boy inspired me to ask you ppl here a rather delicate question about your altitude towards zoophily/bestiality in your close suroundings. In this forum we often compare the development of the altitude towards homosexuality in our society during the last 20-30-40 y. with that towards zoophily/bestiality. Since we all are part of the society I'd like to ask: How would you react if you see some indications, or hear a confession from a sibling (brother/sister/parrents/adult child) that they are sexualy atracted to animals? Will your altitude towards them change? Will you discourage them bearing in mind all the consequences of such lifestile? Will you support them, assist them in it? Will you "go out of the closet" yourself? What are your pros/cons for such decisions.
I think this question is easily answered by the people on this forum, seeing as we're all here because we are attracted to animals, and in many cases, activly practice beastiality.Okay, if I were to find out that a member of my family was a zoophile, yes, my aditude towards that person would change.. for the better. Then you could share your experiences with them, attempt to convince them to share thier animal lovers with you, and in special cases, practice it with them, I.E: You find out your sister is a zoophile you could get her to let a dog mount her while you mount the dog.The thing about "Coming Out" to a member of your own family who happens to be a zoophile is, why not? How could they judge you without being a hypocrit? How can they, when they do it as well. That would make no sense, but then again the human race makes no sense either...About discouragin them: You could, seeing as how most zoophiles are, in fact, outcasts if found out, and definetly are not socially accepted. But when you consider it, can your really discourage it? The fact is, and you may not want to hear or believe this, that zoophilia is a mental disorder. Someone who loves animals in the physical sense cannot help that they feel the way they do, just as homosexuals cannot.All religous refrences have been edited by me (deerhunter).QUOTE DO NOT:5.1.24 discuss religion or politicsThe possible Pros and COns of "Coming Out":Pro, you could strengthen your bond with the person you come out to.Pro, you could share your animals with each other, increasing pleasure.Pro, you could, like me, be shown a community like this after coming out.Con, the person you tell could have a big mouth, and inform other.Con, the person you tell could be lying, and judge and expose you.I myself cannot thing of any other pros or cons, but I hope my stand on the subject has been helpful.
well said furverted
Well to answere your questions llliza12345, if one of my family members confessed to being zoo, my attitude would change a little bit, because i know they feel the same as i do, i wont have to try to hide everything from them. I would try to help him/her share my experiences and hope he/she learns from them and from his or her own, but I would never "come out" just because they did. And I'de also play it cool the first couple days to see if they were just trying to trick me on the whole situation.peace
We are all hear so I assume we are willing to except some company.Meating a person would be nice.But you have sugested a large group of people would like to see me dead somaby company is not a good idea after all. I guess a personal add is not a good thingThat is a good reason to keep to our selves.Yes there is some joking here I my self look at life this wayEvery morning is a gambleI wake up I draw a hand of cards,, some day I will draw aces & eights.Till then I will still pester peopleRus
I have to put a damper on this right away... we do not allow religious discussion in here .. many have different views and eventually it gets ugly.. so please do not bring up religion anymore... I havent decided yet if I have remove the bible references .. so for now I will let them stay ...
Sorry Wylde, I just couldn't let this stay as posted so I edited the religous parts out and remove the reply's by that poster, That I didn't think was helpfull to the intent of the origenal poster..
For what its worth ThanksR
From my standpoint, if one of my family members admitted that or I found out, I would be suspicious because they don't really seem that way. (Then again, don't many of us attempt to look "not that way" to the rest of the world?) Once I had verified the authenticity, though, I would be supportive. Goodness knows it's rough being a zoo in an anti-zoo society. The last thing we should be doing is putting our own kind (let alone family members!) down for their beliefs. I would warn my family member about the dangers, but also stress the good points, too. I would hope that no matter what my family members came out and admitted, that I'd be able to love them nonetheless, and even if I didn't agree with them for what they were doing, that I could support them as they fought through guilt, etc.--with the one rule being that they weren't hurting or taking advantage of other beings.There's my two bits.-Jackdoe
well if a family member <im guessing you mean bros and sisters>came out to me <witch i think two are interested > i would come out to them, but i have the luxury of living away from them..........it would be nice to be able to talk to them about how i feel<i think im the only active one> i think my mom knows anyway and if she does shes not ashamed of me. i still wont come out to her tho......but anyway it all depends
One of my daughters and her husband are very active in relationships with dogs. It is hardly surprising since it was a known fact that that both her father and mother were active zoophiles also.In our home it was unlikely that activities with dogs would go un-noticed. It was, as I have written in another post, easier to explain the sexual side of life to children when both parents were naked as normal AND there were dogs in the house that showed intimate interest in the humans on a personal basis i.e. smelling and nuzzling on occasions.As to the other children, I know that they have experimented and if they wish to continue loving in that direction it is certainly fine by me and their mothers.Neither of my own brothers is aware, as far as I know, of my personal inclinations and if they do, they do not make a fuss about the situation.Pokerman
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QUOTE (llliza12345 @ Oct 7 2006, 01:10 PM) How would you react if you see some indications, or hear a confession from a sibling (brother/sister/parrents/adult child) that they are sexualy atracted to animals? Will your altitude towards them change? Will you discourage them bearing in mind all the consequences of such lifestile? Will you support them, assist them in it? Will you "go out of the closet" yourself? What are your pros/cons for such decisions. Since my life is "small town private" it's not a tough call for me... if I heard stories, I'd act indifferent... that their life was their life... my attitude toward them would NOT change, one way or the other... I would not assist them nor "come out of the closet"... my life is very private and I don't want them ever to see me sweat...
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I agree totally with DixieDoll,If someone (family member or not) was discovered or confessed, I would probably be indifferent. Their sex life is none of my business and mine is none of theirs.Beverly
I take people for what they are BUTThe more people who know the better chance of a slip.I think I would go over the shades down drill.Rus
I think I'd have to agree with Dixiedoll as well... If I heard about something going on, or they told me directly, I wouldn't feel comfortable in confessing to them, or talking to them about it at all really. Zoophilia is just something I never have, and never will want to talk about with my family, whether that be parents, siblings, relatives, or children.Plus the thought kinda' makes me shudder anyways, "family into zoo"... Not sure but.. *gag*, not that I'd condemn them or treat them any different though...
Well, as I said previously, I'd talk to them about it, let them know they aren't alone in the world. Try to point them to some good information, and provide them with any of my experience that I thought might be helpful.
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QUOTE (llliza12345 @ Oct 7 2006, 08:10 AM) Since we all are part of the society I'd like to ask: How would you react if you see some indications, or hear a confession from a sibling (brother/sister/parrents/adult child) that they are sexualy atracted to animals? Will your altitude towards them change? Will you discourage them bearing in mind all the consequences of such lifestile? Will you support them, assist them in it? Will you "go out of the closet" yourself? What are your pros/cons for such decisions. How could any body who's been active or just interested in this, ever lose respect for a family member or close friend if they came out to you. That just woldn't make any sense. However if they wanted to go public with it, I'd certainly advise them against it.
QUOTE (silkythighs @ Oct 10 2006, 01:24 AM)QUOTE (llliza12345 @ Oct 7 2006, 08:10 AM) Since we all are part of the society I'd like to ask: How would you react if you see some indications, or hear a confession from a sibling (brother/sister/parrents/adult child) that they are sexualy atracted to animals? Will your altitude towards them change? Will you discourage them bearing in mind all the consequences of such lifestile? Will you support them, assist them in it? Will you "go out of the closet" yourself? What are your pros/cons for such decisions. How could any body who's been active or just interested in this, ever lose respect for a family member or close friend if they came out to you. That just woldn't make any sense. However if they wanted to go public with it, I'd certainly advise them against it. Dear silkythighs, I never even hinted about loosing respect for someone close whom I'd suspect or know that's into it. Ofcourse that doesn't make sense, at least, not to talk about aplying double standarts. I definitely agree with you against advising them to go public - that's plain stupid, dangerouse etc etc. I don't do this, why would I advise someone else, close and dear to me to do it?What I had in mind was more like...would you assist them in such activities or would you try you discourage them bearing in mind all the discomfort and the eventual consequences of such lifestile. Assisting goes (maybe, can't imagine otherwise) with comming out yourself out of the closet, sharing expiriense - will you be wiling to risk that. And discouraging comes with arguments, how would argument your case without aplying double standarts? And then is another question that I didn't ask - say the situation is reversed, a close sibling suspects you're involved in such activities. Would you let this very close to you person wonder and probably reach some wrong conclusions about yourself and risk loosing respect by reason of unsertainty? Or would you try to explain yourself, again risking to loose respect, this time by reasons of prejudices or plain ignorance? I exclude the risk of this sibling yapping around about you - once you suspect such a thing it's obvious that you'll never mention the subject and will try to avoid it...what we all actualy do all the time, or ast least most of the time, except in this forum?
I havn't been in this situation so I can't say for sure how I'd react.My inclination would be to make it known they have someone to talk to without being judged. If I could do that without confirming my own orientation that would be my preference. I don't expect my family members to tell me what goes on in their bedrooms, and I don't see any reason to tell them what goes on in mine I wouldn't volunteer to assist them, but I might point them to this forum so they can find the info themselves.To me the biggest "con" with confiding something like this to a family member is that they might let it slip to another person who isn't as sympathetic. If you actively assist them, they could also blame you later for "leading them astray".
I am with the beautiful Silkythighs on this thread, and very well said I may add. BZ
I've had to think awhile on this befor responding. But if I found out a family member was a zoophile I don't think it would change how I view them very much. It may make me a little more sympathetic for the hardships in terms of hiding their sexuality for so long. I would also try to be supportive of them within the family, to keep them from being attacked by other family members. As a rule, I've always made it a point to try and be supportive of my siblings regardless of the issue involved; primarily because our parents tended to be extremely domineering and close minded, and even overbearing. Now onto a second matter. I am extremely suprised Pokerman at what you have said. Personally I have neither heard of or come across a family that was openly zoophilic. Many on this board have read posts about individual member coming out to there family. But I've yet to hear of a family that was so generally tolerant and supportive of their children when it comes to that lifestyle choice. You mentioned that your siblings do not know. Was your choice, as you grew to adulthood, intentional in as much that you didn't want your own children to be repressed in that fashion? To be honest it sound like the exact opposite of the situation I grew up. Which consequently resulted in the emotionally malformed individual I am today. I say kudos to you for being so open minded and supportive.
If A family member came out, I obviously would not judge them because of my interest. Their sex life is their business. Just like people who like to swing or swap. it is none of your business. I read a quote once, that if u knew your friends sex life and tastes, it would be hard for you to be friends with them, or at least feel a littel uncomfortable around them.
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