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No I'm not just some person who stumbled upon this forum by accident and come in here to give out and protest. Actually it's quite the contrary.I'm not a hypocrite as I too have experienced animal sex. When my Brother and his wife went on holidays and left me in charge of his 2 dogs I had no hesitation of getting naked and letting them both lick my cock and trying to get them to mount me (with no success unfortunatly). While they were both between my legs licking the head and shaft of my cock I felt like I was in paradise. I was horny as hell and I could'nt get enough. Every so often I got on my hands and knees trying to tempt them to mount me.That was all well and good. However after I came and they licked the cum off my chest I started feeling dirty, perverted, disgusting, ashamed and sorry for the dogs. I started really regretting my actions and swore never to do it again (only to come back the next day for more).Anyway, my question to everyone participating on this forum is;Do you feel the same way afterwards? Is it just your horniness that takes control and the only outlet is the dog sitting in the corner?I mean lets face it, what we are doing is illegal in most places. We are outcasts. I bet everyone in this forum keeps there activities a secret. It's not something you'd tell your friends now is it?Are you ashamed of your secret life? Do you regret doing the deed afterwards?I fully understand why you all choose to have sex with animals. I know too well that it's NOT a case of there being no other options available to you. I've got a pregnant girlfriend. I don't need dogs to get laid or get a blowjob, but occasionally it's just something I can't resist.Just to point out I'm not flaming you guys or laughing at you. I'm just curious to know if this is an aspect of your life that you regret but have no control over.
welcome to this fine fourm))after you,ve been here awhile you will find ou thtis psot might have been better off in the how to or zoo sections)) (maybe a mod will move it dfor you)to awnser your ? in partdo i feel ashamed for loving anomals and having wonderful sex with a willing being?? NO!!!! not at all it was pure simple love or lust if you will, with a lover that has no hang ups about sex and expressions like humans doso to have one as a lover (male or female) weather they started it or i did, is to me the purest espression of lovr or trustdo i hide it sure, dose that bother me yesbut human are the ones all hung up on you can or cant do this or thatso whatever i do in priviteis my consern, heck i dont even make public what i do in bed wiht my non zoo wife (its no ones business)i do wish we didnt have to hide this love but we doremember it wanst tha many yrs ago all homosexuals and lesibans were fully in the closet to and couldnt expose themself liek there able to do todayso i,ll keep my love a sercet, and be better for it cause my lovers are pure and simple and dirictand feel no ahasme afterwards))HB58
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This thread should definitely be moved. I'll answer your question because you don't seem like a "troll". What you are experiencing is perfectly normal - for you, but that might not be normal for everyone. In fact, I'm pretty sure it is not. There are some who enjoy sex with animals because they love them and they love the sex. There is a romantic, playful bond between human and animal. But also, there are some who enjoy sex with animals because it is taboo and it makes them feel "dirty". And they like it for those reasons, in particular.If you are in the second category - and it seems likely that you are, your experience goes like this: When your arousal is high and the hormones are flowing, it's easy to submit to those feelings and engage in an activity you believe "degrades" you. After you orgasm, the chemicals in your brain return to normal and you look upon your act with disgust and regret. But you enjoyed the gratification and your brain has learned what it should do the next time you are aroused. Get on all fours, puppy!!What you need to realize, is that everyone isn't having the same experience that you are. So there may be some that are ashamed - and in fact they may enjoy it because it makes them feel that way.However, there are others - if not a profound majority, who are not ashamed and who would be offended to even be asked the question. For them it would be like asking if they're ashamed of their wife, or disgusted by the sight of her. Just as you don't see things from their perspective, they won't see things the way you do.If you're going to ask questions like this, you'll need to be a bit more alert to the way other people view their experiences. It would be very easy to insult someone who is a caring, gentle, and very sincere lover of animals.I hope that helped answer your questions. ...and don't be too upset if this thread is moved. It really belongs in a zoo-centric area, and not the general forum.Cheers!
HB and cohort...good reply and nice to hear!!!there may be funny feeling at first but who knows where it will lead.<<<remembers way back when.....
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moved to zoo
I'm going to be really boring & picky here, but reading this thread it occurred to me how easily misunderstandings can occur. How differently this would have been received if the question had been "Don't you feel ashamed?" rather than "Do you feel ashamed?" An instant ban possibly? With so many of our members not having English as a first language such a mistake could easily be made where such subtleties may not be appreciated. Not sure what I'm saying really (nothing new) except perhaps it's something to bear in mind when making snap judgements on one short post.OK, I'll go away.
I agree 100% with what's already been said here...And for me, it's nearly the opposite. I'm more proud of my care and love for animals then anything, and feel nothing unusual about being attracted to them sexually, no shame, no regret, no guilt. I feel priviledged to have such a bond and relationship with dogs. Of course, you can't exactly flaunt those sort of feelings, but I don't mind. The only negative feeling I have is paranoia, from the illegality of the lifestyle, but it's by far, not common or frequent.
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Why should I feel ashamed? I am a grown adult. I am over 18. And what I do in the friendly confines of my own home is my business. Whether is sex w/ my husband or my dog or a carrot, whose business is it? I am never ashamed that I know how to satisfy myself or how often I do it.
I am in full agreement with dixiedoll
I can see where your coming from Down Boy, to answere your q'sI'm certainly not ashamed of my secret life. It's what makes me who I am, like you mentioned yourself, I might hang with some hot chicks on any given day but to me there not as attractive as my boi(s) I'm a zoo, i'm into canines Bro peace
QUOTE (Särx @ Sep 30 2006, 04:48 PM)I agree 100% with what's already been said here...And for me, it's nearly the opposite. I'm more proud of my care and love for animals then anything, and feel nothing unusual about being attracted to them sexually, no shame, no regret, no guilt. I feel priviledged to have such a bond and relationship with dogs. Of course, you can't exactly flaunt those sort of feelings, but I don't mind. The only negative feeling I have is paranoia, from the illegality of the lifestyle, but it's by far, not common or frequent.And I agree fully with Särx (as an aside, ya know how long it took me to get that umulat in there???! ) in that a reserved love is all that I can show outwardly -- BUT, there was a time that I was younger and everyone else was fascinated with and talking about sex with women, and I was standing there faking it, thinking about fur and wondering what the hell was with that. But I got past it -- in a big way. Enjoy!Wisp
QUOTE (wispwolf @ Oct 1 2006, 04:38 AM) And I agree fully with Särx (as an aside, ya know how long it took me to get that umulat in there???! ) in that a reserved love is all that I can show outwardly -- BUT, there was a time that I was younger and everyone else was fascinated with and talking about sex with women, and I was standing there faking it, thinking about fur and wondering what the hell was with that. But I got past it -- in a big way. Enjoy!Wisp ( ::laughing:: You didn't have to worry about the umlauts, a regular "a" is just fine! )That is a really awkward moment when everyone else is talking about humasn and you're thinking about animals, I know that feeling too. That's when I started wondering "Hmm... I might not be 'normal'...", but even then, I wasn't deeply bothered by that.
QUOTE (cohort @ Sep 30 2006, 06:22 AM) If you're going to ask questions like this, you'll need to be a bit more alert to the way other people view their experiences. It would be very easy to insult someone who is a caring, gentle, and very sincere lover of animals. I assure you my intentions were not to insult anyone on this forum.Granted, everyone has different views when it comes to sex with animals.And I fully understand that people do it out of love for their pet, but millions of people around the world love their pet but would still never have sex with it.There are ways to show your pet that you love it without pulling your pants down.A part of me thinks that people say 'I have sex with my pet because I love it' purely as an excuse. Something they keep telling themselves everytime the do it to make them feel less guilty.Yet again I don't mean to offend with that statement.After reading all posts here so far it is clear to me that most of you have a much different mentality on the subject then I do. You do indeed do it out of love for your animal and not just a way to satisfy your needs. Whereas I did it purely to give it a try, see what it's like and also because I was horny as f***. I didn't love the dogs.A previous poster above compared animal sex to being . Yes, 20 years ago a guy would be beaten to a pulp if anyone knew he was whereas today it's a lot more accepted. Will sex with animals be accepted in 20 years time? I have my doubts. Simply because 2 guys acknowledge that they are , they both give eachother consent to do whatever they do in bed.However a dog does'nt give you his consent. He does'nt tell you to take out your cock so he can lick it. That is the reason why Animalsex will be frowned upon for a long time.Anyway, I'm going of topic. So it looks like I'm the only one that does be ashamed of my secret. Wow, that opened my eyes quite a bit. As mentioned already, I am not trying to offend anyone. I had animal sex too so we are all in the same boat. This is just a normal chat between people with a similar interest.
Intentions or not, I thought you'd want to know... and I'm glad your eyes were opened. No, you're not the only one on the forum that views animals as a form of gratification alone. BUT it was important that you know there are a lot of folks on the forum who don't feel the same way. And yes, the part about your feelings of guilt was the indicator for which "camp" you were in. After you meet a few dozen people, it's hard to miss certain patterns.....and with that it seems the intent of my post was achieved. I'm sure you don't want to offend anyone and now you've got the tools for avoiding that.Oh, and hey... welcome to the Forum!!
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I feel there should be no shame , as long as the dog , horse etc is willing and between consenting adults. Let loose and have fun. This has been going on since cave man days.
I know exactly what hes talking about, I experience the same thing. When you're really horny, some things just get you going but after you cum, its like, my god I can't believe I just did something so perverted just to have an orgasm.
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I can understand to an extent. I think it is probably cuz the dogs were your brothers and not yours. I used to walk dogs in my neighborhood, and a walked this huge male akita (a real gentle giant) for an elderly couple across the street. one day he accidently knocked the lady over, and she broke her arm. they were gonna take him to the pound, but i took him in for a few weeks till i could get him a home. one night i decided to feel him up, and he loved it. the next few weeks were great, we did everything. then some people came and picked him up.However, recently my neighbors male lab would come over to play with my dogs, and whenever i tried to do something with him, it resulted the same way Down Boy's did: he loved to lick me, but would not mount me. after i got off, i felt ashamed.Like i said, since it was not your dog, thats probably why. And everyone on this forum who said they were not ashamed all seemed to be experienced with their own pets. Its like sleeping with your best friends lover: you'll feel bad later (probably).
Feeling shame - well there was a time when I thought I would be the only one with such a preference. The medias, when they cover the subject, does normally not do it in the favour of the case. If the Internet had not been there, I would have felt even more ashamed. Now, it is there, and I met several people with same passion, and have met a few of them live. The great disadvantage with internet is that mos live so far away...Well, Ive met olot of folks, lve and online, and they happen to be just normal people behind their nicks, just that we share that passion. And that our passion is OK as long as we act responsible, and in cases of doubt, do not let our passion drag us into something wrong or dangerous.Things developed, other things happened like horses being damaged and zophiles accused for it. I found that this made me angry, and I reacted to it. That caused a spinoff where I had to take a step out of the shadow, not that I am "out" but i have made my opinion clear, buth under nick, and under real name. Strange enought, Ive not been beaten for that so far. If yo ask me today, I feel proud of being what I am. I would certainly not have given you that answer 15 years ago.Will we be accepted in 20 years? Or baned down in the same pot where [CENSOR]'s go?Some of it is in our hands. There are things we must do and stop doing. The rest is up to the world biggest random machine called politics. They don't want us to talk politics here, so no more words on that. One thing I know for sure is, if I am still alive in 20 years, I will still be a zoophile.
QUOTE (psychodan @ Oct 1 2006, 10:58 AM) I can understand to an extent. I think it is probably cuz the dogs were your brothers and not yours. As much as I wish that was the case I know it's not. It's not so much that I felt guilty afterwards. It's more the fact that I felt dirty, sick, perverted and disgusting.Whether it ws my brothers dog or my dog I would've felt just as bad afterwards.I probably would've felt less disgusted if I let his wife lick my cock. It was just the fact that it was a dog that kinda creeped me out. The licking of my cock was fine that didn't disgust me at all, but when I got down on all fours trying to entice him inside me, that's what really gave me a reality check afterwards.I've always fantasized about Beastiality. Ever since I was young I always imagined a dog taking me up the ass or licking my cock.Even to this day I still dream about those things. But after getting a taste of what it's like and being disgusted about it afterwards I'm starting to doubt my fantasies.
probly the main reason you feel guilty is that the bible thumpers have beat it in to you that its wrong....if you both ejoyed it and no one was hurt why be ashamed.....the dog aint. Just because i dont mention this topic to people in real life does not mean i am ashamed, i'm not. Wasn't long ago s and lesbians were socialy unacceptable still are in some places. and if your a zoo OMFG I see no reason for you to feel guilty, but that is for you to decide...just don't let..others or religion...decide it for you
I think Cohort, Särx and Wispwolf summed my feelings up really well. My love and attraction for animals has always felt natural and right. I don't understand what there is to feel ashamed about? Sharing intimate moments with someone else, when both involved enjoys it and no one gets any harm? Nothing to be ashamed about if you ask me.I am bothered by the fact that I have to fake, and pretend that I find humans attractive, when I am in the company of my co-workers. If I am standing talking to a few of my co-workers and a girl that they find good-looking is walking past, and they comment on her, I feel forced to pretend to find her good-looking as well.It's not shame, more of a kind of precaution. Since my co-workers aren't even accepting of homosexuality, I cannot even begin to think of how they would react if they found out I am not attracted to humans at all.Being forced to fake, having to pretend to be something I am not, bothers me deeply, but it is not the same as being ashamed. This is why I used to come out to my friends that were close to me, so that I wouldn't have to constantly tell lies to my best friends.Coming out to my current co-workers? No way! That does not mean that I am ashamed - just that some people are difficult to be honest to.
QUOTE (Down Boy @ Oct 1 2006, 05:20 AM) And I fully understand that people do it out of love for their pet, but millions of people around the world love their pet but would still never have sex with it.There are ways to show your pet that you love it without pulling your pants down.A part of me thinks that people say 'I have sex with my pet because I love it' purely as an excuse. Something they keep telling themselves everytime the do it to make them feel less guilty. I just wanted to comment on this...There are more then one kinds of love. Sure there are lots of pet owners out there who "love" their animals, but then again, the average pet owner treats their animals as innocent children. This is why they are so appalled by the mere prospect of sex with animals.The love that I, and I'm sure, many zoos feel for their animal lovers, is a sexual attraction and partnership, the sort of love that you'd have for your husband or wife, not for your child. So even though there are other ways of showing a loved one your fondness, sex is still something natural in that sort of relationship. It is by no means an "excuse", it is a true and valid claim.And just to make one more clerification, we don't view all animals with that love, I have had animals that I viewed as partners (lovers), and others that I would never think of in a sexual way, ones I treated as a close friend or sibling.
Can't say I'm ashamed, but there have been times in the past why I've wondered why I am this way. I think that's going to happen when your involved in any non-traditional aspect of life. Society puts so much pressure on you to fit into the mold that it's hard to break away from that without asking some questions about yourself.
No shame here, But than only the people on here and one friend know about it. I can't even begine to tell you the mixed feelings i had after my dog mounted me the first time. It hurt, but felt good, i was scared to death, but calm, happy and sad all at the same time. Now that I am older I understand them more and have decided to move on, will I tell other people, I just might. I have hinted to a few but thats about all. But being bi might help my out look on things, when a girl walks by I can nudge my one friend and joke about her nice pooper (yes we really call there butts poopers because it makes everone around us laugh) And my few friends that know i like the company of guys don't really seem to care that i am bi. As for the zoo part its not hard to keep it secret, because I don't make hints or sugestion that i am a zoo.
QUOTE (Down Boy @ Oct 1 2006, 05:20 AM) Will sex with animals be accepted in 20 years time? I have my doubts. Simply because 2 gaii guys acknowledge that they are gaii (misspelling intentional), they both give eachother consent to do whatever they do in bed.However a dog does'nt give you his consent. He does'nt tell you to take out your cock so he can lick it. That is the reason why Animalsex will be frowned upon for a long time.Anyway, I'm going of topic. So it looks like I'm the only one that does be ashamed of my secret. Wow, that opened my eyes quite a bit. .Seems we all are, to a certain point, "victims" of the of the rules imposed on us from the society we grew in. Sometimes we accept those rules (like "don't pick up your nose, at least not in public") , sometimes we don't (like "don't touch yourself down there") and then suffer subconciously but live with our private "sin". Same goes with one's sexual prefferences. Yes, now the general altutude towards homosexuality in most modern&civilized countries seems to be different from what it was 20-30 y ago, but is it REALY so? Let's face it - most ppl today don't aprove "gaii bashing" (misspelling intentionaly), but secretly pray - "Dear god, let my son/doughter be like them". In my poor english it doesn't mean acceptance, it means a self inforced tolerance mixed with hipocracy.You pointed correctly as a reason why most ppl will frown (or much worse) on sex with animals and it probably will not be soon accepted as it happened with homosexuality: " Simply because 2 gaii guys acknowledge that they are gaii, they both give eachother consent to do whatever they do in bed.However a dog does'nt give you his consent. He does'nt tell you to take out your cock so he can lick it. That is the reason why Animalsex will be frowned upon for a long time.". However you (and most ppl) miss a point - a (male) dog DOES give you his consent for sex in his own way, be it humping your leg, or trying to lick you "down there", or even trying to mount you. Mind you, I'm talking about completly unknown, "virgin" dogs, not someone's partners. Now I ask - isn't that a consent or is it. And why if a dog wants it, AND I want it, I should feel guilty or ashamed? Just becouse the hypocritic society around me does not accept that? Or becouse nobody from the authorities defined by law what is a "consenting age" for a dog, as they did for minors from the human species? Well, it seems we'll continue live "in sin" for a long time to come and be the outcasts of the society around us. For the time beeng let's hope that we'll succeed to get by unharmed, more or less.
Seems I did a mistake in my post and can't correct it. The secret pray that I mentioned should be reading "Dear god, let my son/doughter NOT be like them" (meaning homosexuals). Sorry.
Well with regard to DownBoy's original post, I think his guilt has less to do with the type of sexuality he's experimenting with, and more to do with the circumstances its occuring under. He sounds just like one of those people who's been essentially "brainwashed" into believeing sex of any kind, especially "out of the wedlock" kind, is evil. Unfortunately, especially in america, this kind of poor or abysmal sexual socialization of our children is all too rampant. So much so, you very regularly see this kind of feeling surfacing in all the gamuts of sexual orientation. I myself have learned not to be ashamed of my own orientations. Despite the fact I keep it private it is more of a bow toward the practical needs not to be attacked by others who can't learn to cope with a lifestyle different than their own. Hopefully, DownBoy can learn to come to grips with his own sexuality, and not let his own nature hold back his own personal happiness in life.
"Ashamed"? No, I agree with manyof the others who have answered this quetions. I can say that at one point,before finding like minded people as are here on this forum,I did feel out of place,but no longer.
ive also had this feeling, and i hate it with all my guts and glory. it makes me feel like a bad person but later im back at it again, back in the ring for another self torture round! i guess i just shrug it off and tell myself that this is who i am and i will not be alterd by such false feelings of after love shame. and that raps up my personal way of dealing with the hauntiing feeling
I sometimes feel ashamed about it but then I'm submissive and thats kinda the turn on for me!
QUOTE (energydog @ Oct 4 2006, 03:35 PM) He sounds just like one of those people who's been essentially "brainwashed" into believeing sex of any kind, especially "out of the wedlock" kind, is evil. You couldn't be further from the truth. I don't believe in God. I've never read the bible, never went to mass, and never prayed. I don't care about what 'god' thinks. f*** god, he can think whatever he wants. I've had threesomes, foursomes and sex. I've sucked a guys cock and had a dick up my arse. I don't care about sex before wedlock.I wish I never said the word 'guilty' in my first post. You guys keep responded to me feeling guilty. I felt disgusted, dirty, sick and perverted. I only felt guilty for the dog. I used him. That's why I felt guilty.Afterwards I took a step back and thought 'what the hell did I just do?? It's a dog for fucks sake'. A hairy, dirty, ass sniffing, ass licking (I mean his own ass) dog.When I got home from my brothers house the first thing I did was take a shower.With all the stuff I've done in my life sexwise this is the act I'm most ashamed of. Having a guy cum up me arse and mouth was no problem. I felt grand afterwards, but this is something I promised never to do again... yet I still want to do it again and I probably will when the opperatunity presents itself. Next time I'll probably succeed in getting the dog to mount me and afterwards I'll feel sick and disgusting again. But it's something I can't resist doing. like a moth to a flame. I know I shouldn't but I just can't resist.
QUOTE (Down Boy @ Oct 1 2006, 05:20 AM) Granted, everyone has different views when it comes to sex with animals.And I fully understand that people do it out of love for their pet, but millions of people around the world love their pet but would still never have sex with it.There are ways to show your pet that you love it without pulling your pants down.A part of me thinks that people say 'I have sex with my pet because I love it' purely as an excuse. Something they keep telling themselves everytime the do it to make them feel less guilty.Yet again I don't mean to offend with that statement.After reading all posts here so far it is clear to me that most of you have a much different mentality on the subject then I do. You do indeed do it out of love for your animal and not just a way to satisfy your needs. Whereas I did it purely to give it a try, see what it's like and also because I was horny as f***. I didn't love the dogs.A previous poster above compared animal sex to being . Yes, 20 years ago a guy would be beaten to a pulp if anyone knew he was whereas today it's a lot more accepted. Will sex with animals be accepted in 20 years time? I have my doubts. Simply because 2 guys acknowledge that they are , they both give eachother consent to do whatever they do in bed.However a dog does'nt give you his consent. He does'nt tell you to take out your cock so he can lick it. That is the reason why Animalsex will be frowned upon for a long time.Anyway, I'm going of topic. So it looks like I'm the only one that does be ashamed of my secret. Wow, that opened my eyes quite a bit. As mentioned already, I am not trying to offend anyone. I had animal sex too so we are all in the same boat. This is just a normal chat between people with a similar interest. down if your stll watching this thread please take heartdo you think most of us wauted till we were in love with a dogor other animal to have our frist sexual exp))??not me at frist it was a way to get off and rub my itch so to speak so thats no different than what you state you have done ot this point, i dint even think if it had bee with a girl etc you could say your frist times are/were for love its about hormones and lust))so dont think just cause these frist time are lacking in emontion that it wont ever come.nor would i be concerned that these frist times are for lust only. as long as no one is hurt or harmed))plese read between the line and understand this inst a endorsment for abuse, it is however a path you may travel for awhile and tyou start any thing by frist steps, will htis lead to a lifetimeof zoo type relationships ??thats up to you and life or your feelings about ittill then do no harm and enjoy each experinceHB58
Hey down boy,I agree with what HairBear58 noted in his last post. Read between the lines and understand that what you have said is something that with many has also been a "concern". However,as noted the choice is yours to make to either explore these feeling further or to put them aside and take another path. Good luck
Yes I've experienced some shame and guilt over my k9 activities. However this only happened at certain times. When I allowed my friends Dalmation I took in dictate where and when we had sex. Or after I let him lick me for how ever long he wished. He was always trying to initate a sexual encounter. It was only when I gave into his persistent and often aggressive demands that I felt guilt or shame afterwards. Granted these feelings didn't last long. I actually liked being dominated like that. Although I'd definately never let a man treat me like that. He often picked the worsed times to lick me. Several times I let him lick me while my kids were alone in another room calling for me for some reasom or another. I didn't like lying to them about how I was doing something very important and making them wait until he was done.
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Actually, yes. The first time I had sex with a horse I was ashamed. But not for any moral reason. I felt ashamed because I didnt get off... An hour and a half of bhanging a horse and I barely felt shit... Guess I shouldnt have taken so many loritabs before I did it...
QUOTE (energydog @ Oct 4 2006, 03:35 PM)Well with regard to DownBoy's original post, I think his guilt has less to do with the type of sexuality he's experimenting with, and more to do with the circumstances its occuring under. He sounds just like one of those people who's been essentially "brainwashed" into believeing sex of any kind, especially "out of the wedlock" kind, is evil. Unfortunately, especially in america, this kind of poor or abysmal sexual socialization of our children is all too rampant. So much so, you very regularly see this kind of feeling surfacing in all the gamuts of sexual orientation. I myself have learned not to be ashamed of my own orientations. Despite the fact I keep it private it is more of a bow toward the practical needs not to be attacked by others who can't learn to cope with a lifestyle different than their own. Hopefully, DownBoy can learn to come to grips with his own sexuality, and not let his own nature hold back his own personal happiness in life.Regarding Down Boy beeng "...just like one of those people who's been essentially "brainwashed" into believeing sex of any kind, especially "out of the wedlock" kind, is evil..., I wouldn't call it "brainwashed". English is not my natove language, but I'd choose "influenced by the society". As much as we may not like it, we all are influenced by the general altitude of the society towards the "different" ppl. Once we comprehend that WE are these "different" ppl, we then look upon our selves differently. It'll sounds like a cliche but I'll give again as example the homosexuality. 25-30 y. ago nobody spoke oppenly about it, even less confessed abot it. And I can imagine quite well what a shock it was for someone to understand that he/she was atracted to same sex - I was in shock myself and I honestly believed then that I was the only one....well, me and my first lady at that time. It took me quite a while to comprehend that I may be a bit different from the majority of ppl. around and yet I had nothing to feel ashamed or guilty about it. Today is a different story all together - most of the younger ppl don't feel ashamed/guilty at all to indicate/confess their sexual prefferences once they know u well enough. Again - the general altitude of the society/medias helped them to overcome that fear of beeng different.In time probably the same will happen with the zoophily, just nobody knows how long it'll take - 20...30...50 years? The good thing is that in today's modern world we can access info from the net, to comunicate tru Inet as oposed to face to face comunications years ago...to learn tru the net that we're not the only one "like that" and it makes thing much easier to comprehend our situation. That I know from my personal expirience as well. Even though I knew about bestiality it always seemed to me like a branch of commercial porno and never gave it much thought unlesss...one day I was licked by a dog, by a pure chance. Well, it was much different, in quality and in quantity than everything else I've experienced till then and yet it was new and strange. Thanks to the net I looked around, got some info, "met" some girls and one of them (dear Jenny, if u read this have my eternal thanks for your help ) was so patient to explain lots of things and encourage me to go all the way into this brave new world. Could that've happened 25 y. ago, without the net? I'd never know...probably yes but deffinitely not that easy, at least not for me...
I had some guilt feelings my first time. I was asleep on the couch, nude, when I was awakened by a wet tongue licking me. It was my Golden Retriever and it felt so good I let him continue licking causing me to become soo hard I thought I'd split. My cock was throbbing and I had to have more so I gently held his head and slowly started pumping into his mouth. He didn't pull away, but started licking my balls as I continued til I unloaded down his throat. He then licked me til I was clean. After that he was always wanting more. I have to admit it was a great sensation. I then returned the favor by jacking him off til he unloaded...what a mess, but fun time.
Hi, I just want to say that for me it is much more than sex. I am an exclusive female dog zoo. My lover, a female german shepard, she is my wife, my other half, my soul mate. When we make love it is like we join together as one soul. It is not just the sex i'm in love with, i truely and very deeply love "her" After we make love we often cuddle, and just hold eachother and just enjoy eachother's loveing embrace, after she does her little "orgasmic dance" lol. I'm sure there are alot of us here who feel this way about our animal partners. So i'd have to say, no i don't feel ashamed or guilty in any one bit after or during. but yes unfortunatly i have to keep it a secret, but that is a price we pay for our love.Tundra
Well this thred took off with out me for a wile..There are as many reasons for being here as people in the forum. Actually I found people tought me to stay away. The kids in school tought me to hate them long ago. It was later I learned to stop the teasing, I never tease back but someone who thinks messing with me is fun learns what hate and discontent realy is. I have no problem making an example out of anyone and happly have. I had no problem being around animals at all, they always take you for what you are, I am friendly to them they are always willing to give me kindness back..If you take the time to realy know how the animal lives you will learn how to "talk" to it. And it can ask you to play, cuddle, or have sex with it.. and the reverse you can ask. I have lived like this for years and I have been turned down to I'll add.Dogs wander if let out and they are happy to have sex with who they meet. So I would not wory about one time consenting stands .. I love all my animals, I am very close with them. I lay down with my studs and they are my sole and heart.. I am not sexual with them, it would change the relationship in directions where I do not want it to go.I sleep with my dogs we do all things togeather as they are part of me as well..You I think are not at peace with your self. Everything happens for a reasonThere are no coincidences.I am not religious but there is a balance to it..I would get to know an animal socially, you need a friend.Sex comes through mutual trust and commitment you cant rush it..Sarx [ I would not even try to find those dots I cant find letters]I love your posts as always thanks.Rus
My belief regarding sex is that the only thing that can determine wether sex is good or bad is the element of consent. That said, unless the human involved is blatantly taking the animal by force, it doesn't bother me.Of course, bestiality comes with the possibly of 10+ years of jail time, and I live in a state renowned for being liberal. So while I myself am unashamed of my interests, the risk is still far too great for me to ever think of practicing it.On one hand, it doesn't sound like you forced them to do anything -- you just took your pants off and they did the rest. On the other hand, good and bad are all relative, so if you feel it's wrong, that should be all that matters as far as your own actions are concerned. But back on that first hand, it might not be you that's telling yourself you're dirty, perverted. etc. You might be subconsciously telling yourself what others would say.In short, use your own judgement. You know the situation better than any of us ever could.
I'm glad somebody brought this up. Let me first give my disclaimer. I certainly mean no disrespect or judgment. I have to laugh at myself sometimes when I get turned on to sex with a dog, yet think someone having sex with a fish, bird, goat, horse, etc. is totally perverted. I have always been a sexual person. sex was sex, man or woman. I can remember even before I knew what sex was being turned on my being caught naked by the grandmotherly lady I used to spend summers with as a small child. I get incredibly turned on by "dirty" sex and sex that is "humiliating" or demeaning. I know it would take a whole round the clock shift of vieneese (sp?) psychiatrists to figure me out. One thing that bothers me is that I can spend (waste?) so much time looking for partners, emailers, etc. and probably ignore or certainly not give as much time to as I should to legitimate relationships, such as my kids, my job, etc. At one time I used to do chemicals (speed) and soak up "dirty" porno for days at a time with a partner. I no longer do drugs, but I do believe that sometimes I use this outlet to "hide" or at least find release from the pressures of life. I can spend hours on the internet surfing, jack off at the end of the night, and almost immediately kick myself in the butt for "wasting" so much of my life, only to be back at it again the next day. Right now I don't have a relationship with a significant other, and am somewhat lonely. And, it's not only because I'm lonely. Sometimes, when I get into a legitimate relationship with a woman, I feel like suggesting that to her, only to think later, "what the hell was I thinking". I consider myself a spiritual person on a spiritual path, and sometimes pray/wish/hope that this one aspect of my life could be "corrected", that it's the last aspect of the changes I have made in my life that I just can't seem to surmount. I'm sure there is the aspect that the reason I like it so much is because it is so taboo. But, damn, there is just not a sight or story hotter than some reluctant, young (I don't mean kids, but someone like I was --teenaged and discovering my sexuality) girl or boy who let their hormones get them carried away and they end up getting forced/seduced into being taken by a male dog who only cares about satisfying his raw needs. Of course, it's only good when they end up getting incrediby turned on, and to their sexual embarrassment, have a tremendous cum. I'm certainly not talking about pain or rape, but that sexual pain and that combination of force/seduction that takes one to unbelievable ecstasy. Of course, our experiences are supposed to be post 18 years old, but I would bet that many on here had their first significant sexual experiences, even with a dog, prior to their 18th birthday. In fact, it was probably because we were so young that it played such a major role in shaping our later experiences.My only other major sexual turn on is being forced into sex by a black or other dominant man and while I am servicing him, he (or my gf) see my hard on and realize that against my will I am really enjoying it. Or having my girlfriend seduced/forced into sex with a bm or large dog and then cumming against her will, (again, she gets carried away with her sexuality into a humiliating, embarrassing situation). But, I guess that is a subject for another forum and perhaps another round of psychiatrists. Anyway, thanks for letting me share. I needed that. I am still trolling beast date, beast forum, and enjoying every minute. I just hope that I am "cured" one day or that I find a woman to share these things with. That certainly is the great thing about this website, that we can hopefully connect in a real way with others like us and get on with our lives, that we can find a relationship that helps us put this in a "proper" perspective, that doesn't control or dominate our lives, but gives us an outlet and allows us to give this aspect of our lives a place and gives us the opportunity to share with like minded people. Once we see how "normal" these urges are by connecting with others, perhaps those of us with "guilty" feelings can see ourselves in a better light.
QUOTE (silkythighs @ Oct 7 2006, 05:47 AM) Yes I've experienced some shame and guilt over my k9 activities. However this only happened at certain times. When I allowed my friends Dalmation I took in dictate where and when we had sex. Or after I let him lick me for how ever long he wished. He was always trying to initate a sexual encounter. It was only when I gave into his persistent and often aggressive demands that I felt guilt or shame afterwards. Granted these feelings didn't last long. I actually liked being dominated like that. Although I'd definately never let a man treat me like that. He often picked the worsed times to lick me. Several times I let him lick me while my kids were alone in another room calling for me for some reasom or another. I didn't like lying to them about how I was doing something very important and making them wait until he was done. That sounded hot silkythighs!! hehe!I was introduced to a zoo encounter initiated by a bitch and she started to lick me and I had noo problem with this! Ive been a furrie for for most of my life, just takes time to work out who and what you are......but then I dont considder myself as anything particular.....I enjoy doing things that make my biological and mental functions go bonkers......I have never felt guilty or ashamed. Why do that to yourself?I cant immagine a great dane feeling ashamed that he shoved his huge k9 sausage in a human....That is one huge reason I find the animal world so exciting because they dont sit there and think....omg what have I done!? No, if all paticipates, human and animals treat each other with tender love n care and the love making was good for BOTH then this is good! If anything feels wrong on either or both sides then stop, dont do it again......I tried mating with my Dalmation but I wasnt comfortable trying to penertrate her, she looked at me as if saying 'well? come on then!' but to be honest Id rather try a pony Something bigger, rounder......ooh yes! This is a good thread which gives many constructive veiw points.....after all were all individually different so there! Thanks yall!
I never feel ashamed either. I know what I'm doing, and I feel it's right. I'm not really interested in what a general public thinks about a situation they can't grasp. I feel more ashamed about choosing a cheeseburger over an apple for lunch.I'll add I'm not ashamed of who I associate with either, whether in the general world of animals or zoo. I hang out with people I believe are morally straight; and that will always include people that fuss over and bond with thier animals. Just who I am. Now, I really do feel ashamed that I don't do enough for my pets and friends sometimes. And that I don't eat right or get nearly enough exercise.
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Hello everyone,true, shame is a very delicate topic in the context of this forum's topic - so my answer will also just reflect my views on this point. It really shouldn't be taken as anything else. As brickly said, we're all individually different Shame after the act; I must admit that I have experienced that too. That is to say, during my earlier experiments; even though I knew that I did not invent this particular field of interest, nevertheless I felt very lonesome and strange. Why was that? I had no one to talk to, and the common opinion is obviously negative. I guess I would not be too far from the truth if I assumed that zoophilia is still largely viewn as a kind of mental disease - abnormal in the least. I mean, be honest; who could you name that would swallow this topic lightly?So, one way to get over the shame for me was to ask myself where I stood, so to speak - to find my own set of right and wrong in this matter. I chose admitting to that one part of myself that was not really going to be a wow at parties, yet without losing sight of right and wrong - but thats another topic.The other way to see the needlessness of shame was finding other people with similar experiences and interests (for example his place - thanks a lot people ). Being able to talk about it and seeing that one is not alone, thats it; after all, its rather hard to be an outcast hermit with ~ 600 people online.All in all, I'd say theres no need to be ashamed if my doing does not hurt any being, human or any other animal.*Phew* Delicate topic and rather long answer. And hopefully not the last one...Amber Eyes
I feel absolutely no guilt or shame before, during or after , I have sex with my animals.My heifers like it, I like it. I also like looking after them, keeping them clean, keeping them well fed, plenty of clean water to drink and recognizing them as good friends. Because they see me as a good friend, I never have to pressure them to have sex, they are always willimg.
ashamed?? yes for the ones that make our lifestyle out to be abusive and add fuel to the persecutors fire. I'm ashamed that people are so narrow minded that they'll judge others before they pass judgement on themselves. but for what I do? I'll admit there has been a few times. but that was in the begining before I came to grips with what I was. I started doing this before i got on the internet, before I found out I was'nt alone. thats only natural at first. but ashamed. not anymore. I don't force anyone or anybeing into any action. and for me, like most of my comrades on this wonderful place. there is more the just a desire to knock boots and get my rocks off.I love my pets. even the goofball that keeps walking into the tinted glass sliding door. but this brings me that much closer.
QUOTE (Down Boy @ Oct 5 2006, 05:47 AM) I wish I never said the word 'guilty' in my first post. You guys keep responded to me feeling guilty. I felt disgusted, dirty, sick and perverted. I only felt guilty for the dog. I used him. That's why I felt guilty.Afterwards I took a step back and thought 'what the hell did I just do?? It's a dog for fucks sake'. A hairy, dirty, ass sniffing, ass licking (I mean his own ass) dog.When I got home from my brothers house the first thing I did was take a shower.With all the stuff I've done in my life sexwise this is the act I'm most ashamed of. Having a guy cum up me arse and mouth was no problem. I felt grand afterwards, but this is something I promised never to do again... yet I still want to do it again and I probably will when the opperatunity presents itself. Next time I'll probably succeed in getting the dog to mount me and afterwards I'll feel sick and disgusting again. But it's something I can't resist doing. like a moth to a flame. I know I shouldn't but I just can't resist. I'm concerned that you felt disgusted and ashamed after the fact, yet you feel a compulsion to do it again. To me this indicates a deeper emotional issue that should be addressed as soon as possible. I'd recommend that you try to find a trustworthy therapist or councilor to talk to. If you're not comfortable discussing animal sex with someone, you can use something else for the event, such as sex with another man. Trust me, if you let feelings like this fester, it will only get worse - I speak from experience.
QUOTE (Down Boy @ Oct 1 2006, 05:20 AM)However a dog does'nt give you his consent. He does'nt tell you to take out your cock so he can lick it. That is the reason why Animalsex will be frowned upon for a long time.I dispute part of your statement:Taking your quote, over the period of over 30 years of dogs sharing my bed, my girlfriends and our lives. Very frequently the dogs would "ask" to be permitted access to our sexual organs.They were as much part of the relationship my girlfriends and I shared in wanting each other. They were part of the family and we respected that they too had desires that didn't always include the other human in the group. Frequently the dog took pleasure in having intercourse with one or other of my girlfriends without me present and at least 60% of the time they would make the initial approach.There is no shame in a relationship that is natural, it is only those for whom it is an un-natural act that shout the loudest and feel shame for having feelings that are perfectly natural, but that they are unable to accept as such.Pokerman
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QUOTE (Kurrelgyre @ Dec 2 2006, 08:55 PM) QUOTE (Down Boy @ Oct 5 2006, 05:47 AM) I wish I never said the word 'guilty' in my first post. You guys keep responded to me feeling guilty. I felt disgusted, dirty, sick and perverted. I only felt guilty for the dog. I used him. That's why I felt guilty.Afterwards I took a step back and thought 'what the hell did I just do?? It's a dog for fucks sake'. A hairy, dirty, ass sniffing, ass licking (I mean his own ass) dog.When I got home from my brothers house the first thing I did was take a shower.With all the stuff I've done in my life sexwise this is the act I'm most ashamed of. Having a guy cum up me arse and mouth was no problem. I felt grand afterwards, but this is something I promised never to do again... yet I still want to do it again and I probably will when the opperatunity presents itself. Next time I'll probably succeed in getting the dog to mount me and afterwards I'll feel sick and disgusting again. But it's something I can't resist doing. like a moth to a flame. I know I shouldn't but I just can't resist. I'm concerned that you felt disgusted and ashamed after the fact, yet you feel a compulsion to do it again. To me this indicates a deeper emotional issue that should be addressed as soon as possible. I'd recommend that you try to find a trustworthy therapist or councilor to talk to. If you're not comfortable discussing animal sex with someone, you can use something else for the event, such as sex with another man. Trust me, if you let feelings like this fester, it will only get worse - I speak from experience. It's very odd, for me, that you mention that. I'm not joking around about it; I'm being very serious. I actually felt the same way first having sex with a woman. I was even shaken up for a day. Of course, I put it down to feeling I did it out of peer pressure; guys are supposed to like girls, right? I of course got over it though. I was told by several people that's actually normal to feel like that a little. But, yeah, I never did feel like that the first time with a dog. I felt quite opposite, like I acheived something, and even more so with an equine. I don't mean to be too personal, but I think that might be right that you shouldn't continue to feel like that, and maybe, dispite other claims, it isn't really how you are supposed to feel at all. Maybe you just aren't zoo is all. And that's cool too, really. I'm not one to say everyone should be one way or the other.
Yes most of us felt different after our first experience. We are are told from an early age that sex is bad in the eyes of the church, and as to anything sexual with animals then you will go straight to hell. My advice is just relax, if you liked it then go for it, provided that you did not force the animal to do something that it is not comfortable with.
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No im not ashamed, far from it but its not the type of thing you can shout from your roof top To me it feels like the most natural thing, just as with being with a human. At first there was a worrie about being found out or people not understanding but thats just paranoia and a little paranoia is good to help stop you getting caught
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Ashamed huh? That's a question I've been asking myself since I was a teenager and stumbled into this. I suppose it depends which half of me is answering. On one hand, I know exactly what it is that drives me in this direction. Because of this understanding, I'm at ease. Oddly though, my reasons have not been stated (so far) by any of the previous people kind enough to share their thoughts. On the other hand, you have the preprogrammed train of thought that continuously spouts out the word "absurd." While I have no philosophical differences with the idea of animal sex, I suppose the core of what bothers me is that I feel like I'm backed into a corner...perhaps because I put myself there or perhaps because that's where my road was inevitably going to lead me. I have everything to lose but for several years I kept it all hidden very well. So I'm a liar? cheater? deceiver? All this makes me a bad person? No. I didn't choose social standards that (I hesitate to use the word) force a kind of underground lifestyle. Anyway, I think I quickly went off on a rant.Case in point: Once you get an understanding as to why, the questioning and the guilt (if any) go away. Some love to love, other love to have fun, and the rest either don't know or have other, perhaps even spiritual, reasons. We are what we are and while we love animals, we must stick together...
I've never felt ashamed for the love, desire, passion and friendship I feel for animals. Its always been a part of me, even when I never acted out on those needs. I know how I feel, I stand by how I feel and don't have the need anymore to hide who I am. Does that mean I tell everyone? No, I don't for many reasons. One in paticular is to protect my daughter from any negative impact. The people who matter to me the most, my daughter, and three of my closest friends know about me. They've offered their support, love and have never judged me for being who I am. I won't ever take an animal by force or even try to push the envelope, if they aren't eager and receptive first. My relationship with the dogs I have been with is based on mutal need and companionship. Most of the time, I have to ask the dogs to back off a wee bit, cause there is a time and place for being intimate. My relationship with dogs, is exactly that, a relationship. I wouldn't feel ashamed for being in a relationship with a man, so I don't feel the need to be ashamed because I am with a dog. I hope that makes sense, there are times my fingers move faster than my brain.
At first I did, I always thought afterwards "isn't what i'm doing wrong?". But after awhile I started to realize that, hey, this is what i am and i shouldn't just ignore my feelings. At first, also, i was just looking for something easy, but the more time i spent doing it then the more sensual it felt for me, i started getting into more serious relationships and now i just accept what i am.
........People remember the 18 years thing Etc....I know 2 people who manage stallions who do not aprove of the sexual thing.It is dirty to them.They are enbarased every time of if there horse drops his penis and heaven forbid he masterbates. They are nice people all around but there not good breeding managers and there stallions have issues over collection and breeding...Just a thought that it goes both ways..Rus
I haven't really made the big jump yet, mostly my big lug just licks, and that's all good but when I get on all fours to see if he'll mount me that's when I feel a twinge, I imagine one of my friends or family walking in on me, and it makes me feel ashamed.I don't get off on shame, it's NOT a turn on for me, so I either push it away or pull up my panties and go to bed at that point.I know my dog is okay, he comes to ME, He licks ME, and eventually (I hope) he'll mount ME, I don't force him down there, he might bite me if I did! Consent is very clear, just like making an advance towards someone who doesn't speak the same language, they can make Yes or No VERY clear with gestures and expression, and you'll know if you're doing something they don't like. Animals can strike out (bite, kick,) if they don't like what's going on.I feel more worried about what my loved ones would think, what could happen if I was caught. What could happen to my life if I was caught.
id have to agree with downboy , i experience his exact same issues, and funny enuff all the experinces ive had with dogs they have never been my dog , so mabey that is the case..its strange how i get this feeling of disgust with my self , ill even feel like throwing up or even get anxious , but the next day or even some hours later,talk or a picture of a buitiful dog cock makes me so horny and all i wanna do is get my rocks off... i hope one day i can feel good like the rest of you do... mabey i need my own dog so i can build a relationship with it... but att he same time im torn between my feelings for zoo and wanting to have a wife and kids(cause i think its pretty unlikley im gunna get both)... i wish it was more acceptable in society so i could have a wife and kids and a nice dog that i can pleasure(and vice versa)...thanks downboy for your question ,, you are not alone,, and thanks everyone for your understanding repliesPapa
Down Boy,Thank you for starting this topic and welcome to the Forum.You should not try to explain away your feelings of shame or by any means internalize them and worry about them. You have started to explore a side of yourself that you may not have known existed before your encounter with the two dogs.Sexual gratification comes in many forms for humans and non human animals. You happened to allow stimulation that was an experiment for you and obviously one that gave you the fulfillment and the end that you desired as you were able to achieve orgasm.I think the first time anyone did this, there was probably a secret feeling of guilt, maybe for some, more than others. Its something that is not accepted by the general population, however, whatever you do behind closed doors, certainly is fine as long as there is no pain inflicted, forced entry or harm brought.Maybe the second, third or hundreth time that you engage in this act, the feelings of guilt will diminish. We are all raised differently and with different religious and moral beliefs. Don't get to caught up in the act as much as the passion and desire that you may have for sharing yourself in a way that most will never be lucky enough to experience.Once again, thanks for the post and it has created many thought provoking replies. Best of luck to you always and whatever you decide to do is ok with us here on the forum, as long as every being is treated with respect and decency
For me I was raised on a farm to think of animals as simply a means of business, a way to make money and didn't think of animals as being equal to humans. I had always had a good friendship with my dog and would occasionally masturbate him simply because I knew he liked it but never had any sexual intent with him. It wasn't until I let him mount me when I was giving him a bath that I started thinking differently. The first five times or so I was ashamed/feeling gross but after that it made me realize he was an equal partner and I got over those feelings. That's when I became a Zoophile and thought the relationship with my dog as more than just a friendship with benefits
You know, from my perspective if the you would feel ashamed of fucking the dog then the dog might be getting way better then he could ever imagine by getting to f*** you.I mean, if you were to apply standards to this sort of thing that is.I personally approve of this. But seriously, why would you feel any shame at all? I find it incomprehensible that you'd have any problem with this at all. Obviously humans and animals are quite compatible, from a certain standpoint. I'd recommend doing it if you're concerned about your spirit being but other than that I think its only right that a person does f*** animals. I mean, whats the difference? And who cares? I'll bet that the very people against bestiality are also very messed up in other ways we could never imagine. ECT. ECT. ECT.Angry edit: And if you want better than an animal welcome to the fucking club!! I can't get a single damned thing I ask for either and it fucking pisses me off. I mean as a human being I think I'm entitled to something GOd damned nice in this life time not just the same old shit. I mean for fucks sake all there is is just the same old meatbag scum trying to
This is an interesting thread. I had guilt when I was a kid because I believed God was watching me. Later I realized that God, at least as religion defines him, is an invention of humans used to try to control other humans.Now, when I have orgasmed in one of my mares I am filled with profound gratitude. I often lay on her back as I go limp and stroke her and tell her how happy she has made me. But there are other times when the mare comes to me in her need. She may slam her butt against me or nibble at my ankles. If we have guaranteed privacy, I will get her off and then myself. If the risk is higher, I may fist her to orgasm several times without ever penetrating her. Then I hug her and ask her if I did OK by her.Like so many here, I very much enjoy taking care of my horses. I tell them I will protect them with my life and they will never be sold or harmed as long as I am alive. My only shame comes at being a human. We are an abusive, greedy lot who is destroying the planet for all creatures. I apologize to my horses regularly and tell them how nice it is of them not to hold it against me.OZ
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Well, uhh.. QUOTE You know, from my perspective if the you would feel ashamed of fucking the dog then the dog might be getting way better then he could ever imagine by getting to f*** you.That's logical assuming the dog isn't forced.QUOTE But seriously, why would you feel any shame at all? I find it incomprehensible that you'd have any problem with this at all. Obviously humans and animals are quite compatible, from a certain standpoint. Not all people are born Zoophiles. That's shown as 99% of people currently in existence think theres something wrong with it. For me, it took a dog taking the first step before I thought of him as an equal. As far as compatibility, sexually we are compatible but not all people are emotionally compatible. Some people may try it, decide it's not for them because of religious requirements or simply their mindset while others feel they were born compatible. It's comprehensible to me that not everyone is compatible with animals or even capable of accepting the behavior because of these emotions, which is why we must hide out.QUOTE I'd recommend doing it if you're concerned about your spirit being but other than that I think its only right that a person does f*** animals. I mean, whats the difference? And who cares? I'll bet that the very people against bestiality are also very messed up in other ways we could never imagine. ECT. ECT. ECT. I agree that 95% of this planets population isn't mentally stable (See signature ;D)QUOTE Angry edit: And if you want better than an animal welcome to the fucking club!! I can't get a single damned thing I ask for either and it fucking pisses me off. I mean as a human being I think I'm entitled to something GOd damned nice in this life time not just the same old shit. I mean for fucks sake all there is is just the same old meatbag scum trying toIf you want better than an animal? Whats wrong with animals? Would you prefer a human even though you seem to be all for animals? I agree everyone deserves someth...
Most likely I won't be experiencing Zoophilia in reality (not once have I experienced anything remotely close to that). However, one can fantasize, no? Fantasy is not real. Hence, I'm not ashamed to fantasize something close to an animal or a furry anthro creature. It's just imaginations, and we are perfecly free to imagine whatever we want, as long as we don't break the laws in reality with physical actions, depending on where you live, etc, etc. At least this is how it goes for me. I think for me, it's natural to think in the sense of Zoophilia. Sure, it's not "normal" for other people out there, but you know what? Hormones and stuff like that, it's part of the biological aspect of animal body (including humans). We surpress the natural reaction of our bodies just because we deem ourselves as "civilized" (ironic enough, we murder and kill each for materialistic wants, unlike animals - for survival).
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I for one have never felt ashamed. I've touched, stroked, given oral to and recieved oral from dogs, and I've given oral sex to horses, as just a small aspect of my relationship with them. I've had 4 horses, and they were my closest friends. I've connected very deeply with animals, always, particularly dogs and horses. When no one else was there for me, they were. I went through more personal horror than I care to type, but I had loving animals lick my wounds and tears and curl up with me while I hid from attackers and cried myself to sleep in the safety of their fur and manes. It was extremely natural for me to care for them, and I'm no more ashamed of being/feeling sexual with animals than I am of my own feelings for them in my heart. Emotional, physical, doesn't make any difference to me, I feel no shame of any aspect and never have. I'm very happy with animals as my companions. I'm not zoo-exclusive myself, I still hold hope that I will find a person to be as good to me as animals have been, but I will always have a bond, a bond like no other with animals whether I ever get the human in my life I'm looking for or not.
Firstly, I feel the need to thank all of you for being brave enough to share your thoughts on such a personal issue. I've perused the posts here after being drawn to this thread by the first post, and I must admit that I feel that I am lacking in some qualities that some of you have. Some of you seem to feel very deeply for the animals that you share your intimacy with. While I am merely curious and highly interested in sex with horses and dogs, I have to regretfully admit that I don't believe I would feel that deeply for them, and for that I feel guilty, even before ever doing the deed. I feel that loving an animal would be a great thing, but I haven't felt that way yet. Perhaps it is because I have never had the opportunity to get close enough to such animals. I don't know anyone with horses or dogs that would be so open minded. I have the feeling that I would also feel guilty for having sex with animals afterwards, only to be drawn back. After all, didn't we all feel guilty when we were younger, and first started to masturbate? Maybe not everyone did, but I have heard tons of stories about guilt from teens like myself (when I was younger.) Perhaps it is only natural to want to do such things, but society has made us think it is wrong.. I still question all of these notions.. And maybe I always will.
QUOTE (mereidmo @ Feb 5 2007, 03:46 PM) Firstly, I feel the need to thank all of you for being brave enough to share your thoughts on such a personal issue. I've perused the posts here after being drawn to this thread by the first post, and I must admit that I feel that I am lacking in some qualities that some of you have. Some of you seem to feel very deeply for the animals that you share your intimacy with. While I am merely curious and highly interested in sex with horses and dogs, I have to regretfully admit that I don't believe I would feel that deeply for them, and for that I feel guilty, even before ever doing the deed. I feel that loving an animal would be a great thing, but I haven't felt that way yet. Perhaps it is because I have never had the opportunity to get close enough to such animals. I don't know anyone with horses or dogs that would be so open minded. I have the feeling that I would also feel guilty for having sex with animals afterwards, only to be drawn back. After all, didn't we all feel guilty when we were younger, and first started to masturbate? Maybe not everyone did, but I have heard tons of stories about guilt from teens like myself (when I was younger.) Perhaps it is only natural to want to do such things, but society has made us think it is wrong.. I still question all of these notions.. And maybe I always will. Welcome It does take time to develop feelings for animals if you've never been with them. There are people attached to some of the most uncommon animals that I've never been around and can't fathom how they have those feelings but the same goes for people that have never been around dogs. I care for all animals, even the ones I've never seen but it's harder when you have no experience with them. From what your saying, I'm coming to two different considerations. You seem like you could very easily be the type to have a great relationship with animals given the chance to be around them but there's also a hint that your hormones are speaking fer you.The guilt is actually a good thing, it shows your morals that you think it is wrong to not care for an animal before having sex with it. There are different levels of care, but as long as you don't force the animal and they are enjoying themselves then there's nothing wrong with it at all. It seems to me that your hormones are speaking for you, because you say you don't think you can feel deeply for an animal and means your more interested in the sex, which depending on your moral strength is whether you will accept an animal that denies sex to you and not force it. People who don't believe animals are equal to them are generally the ones who will feel guilt but still force sex.Don't take that as a bash, I'm not suggesting your that way as no one can make a decision of that caliber without really getting to know a person. I'm just saying how it sounds to me and hope that if that is how you feel you will take it as advice and try to control your hormones.As for society imposing on what you consider to be right and wrong then your on to something there. I'm very laid back and neutral in personality because I've got a lot of experience despite being very young. I've never taken a psychology class in my life but know a lot about how humans think, its always been a fascination to learn why people act the way they do. I've been through the ringer with all forms of religions and once I realized religion is simply a modifier of god that I became open to everything questioned by morality. Religion isn't always about god, think of religion as a set of rules that society follows, that is what conflicts with how people think. Someone who is deep in belief of the religion of their choosing is going to stick with likeminded individuals and therefore reject opposing beliefs such as how zoophilia is. Sorry if I'm not encouraging but that's not my mind to be. I do hope you find a relationship with an animal or at least determine if this is your sort of thing. Nothing worse than always questioning yourself throughout life.
In a way at moments, yes. My hormones do strongly flavor how I feel about the whole issue. Simultaneously, however, there is always a continuum of how weak or strong my heart speaks through it all. This morning, my heart is strong and I yearn for the experience of true love with an animal. This could be born from the fact that I'm just lonely lately, and having an animal as a mate would be new territory, and fresh and exciting, but on the other hand, it sounds so simple.. They don't speak verbally! Arguments would be rare, trust could seem to be built without so much drama, and speaking without words is a skill I feel I can use a lot of work on. I feel that through the experience, I would be forced to become a better person. I have the feeling that, communicating with a being who seems to think simpler, forces one to learn who they are at the most basic level in order to convey how they feel and what they are thinking to a non-human partner.. Admittedly, this might all sound like a load of nonsense to you, since I just woke up, but I hope at least some of you can identify or make some sense of it
QUOTE (mereidmo @ Feb 6 2007, 10:25 PM) I have the feeling that, communicating with a being who seems to think simpler, forces one to learn who they are at the most basic level in order to convey how they feel and what they are thinking to a non-human partner.. Admittedly, this might all sound like a load of nonsense to you, since I just woke up, but I hope at least some of you can identify or make some sense of it :) I do. Very well said.I think many can learn from the simple way of "living in the now" that animals do.I'm trying to remember where I heard the "live in the now" quote from. Perhaps Mad Max 3 (Beyond Thunderdome)?
QUOTE (mereidmo @ Feb 6 2007, 03:25 AM) In a way at moments, yes. My hormones do strongly flavor how I feel about the whole issue. Simultaneously, however, there is always a continuum of how weak or strong my heart speaks through it all. This morning, my heart is strong and I yearn for the experience of true love with an animal. This could be born from the fact that I'm just lonely lately, and having an animal as a mate would be new territory, and fresh and exciting, but on the other hand, it sounds so simple.. They don't speak verbally! Arguments would be rare, trust could seem to be built without so much drama, and speaking without words is a skill I feel I can use a lot of work on. I feel that through the experience, I would be forced to become a better person. I have the feeling that, communicating with a being who seems to think simpler, forces one to learn who they are at the most basic level in order to convey how they feel and what they are thinking to a non-human partner.. Admittedly, this might all sound like a load of nonsense to you, since I just woke up, but I hope at least some of you can identify or make some sense of it Wow You have a said quite a lot there that makes me wish I could edit the above post It's true that it's very simple, there's no disagreements or arguments. It's all instinct and silent communication that builds a relationship with animals. Feelings aren't overly dramatic and there's no distrust with an animal, you don't have to worry about saying something that's gonna upset them which is why a dog will be the only mate I'll ever have
never look back and never stand down.
When i first started messing around with zoo love (more than a few years back) I didn't have the benefit of the internet and the wonderful support system it provides to new zoo's. I felt as if I was the only person doing it and being raised Catholic I had plenty of guilt hang-ups already. I really struggled during my early years, and even tried denying my true self for a few years in college. The denying made me feel worse than the guilt of doing had. I finally came to terms with myself, and accepted me for who I am. I found a loving, caring husband that accepted me also, and that, in itself, was a Godsend. I discovered the internet, met others like me, and realized that while what I do isn't accepted by society as a whole, I non the less am "normal". I no longer feel guilty or ashamed of who I am, and though I am careful about who knows, those that do know, know I am proud of what and who I am. Hope this helps. Luv Yall
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Wow this is my first post and im very new to this site, first off i think this is a great topic. That being said...Since i was a...well lets say younger ive had a strong sexual appitite and this kind of thing always left me with needing to see more.I stumbled across this site and havnt been able to turn away. But i have that beatened thought that was stomped in my head since catholic grade school how this is just wrong / bad / immoral etc... But i get so turned on,I usually cant get through the site with out taking care of myself. And i get so wet even just reading post let alone watching videos. But ive never tried anything, and am having constant head battles with it.So yeah i feel ashamed, but im enjoying it soooo much. I guess this is what things are like in the begining. I an only wonder whats to come.
QUOTE (Down Boy @ Sep 30 2006, 04:30 AM)No I'm not just some person who stumbled upon this forum by accident and come in here to give out and protest. Actually it's quite the contrary.I'm not a hypocrite as I too have experienced animal sex. When my Brother and his wife went on holidays and left me in charge of his 2 dogs I had no hesitation of getting naked and letting them both lick my cock and trying to get them to mount me (with no success unfortunatly). While they were both between my legs licking the head and shaft of my cock I felt like I was in paradise. I was horny as hell and I could'nt get enough. Every so often I got on my hands and knees trying to tempt them to mount me.That was all well and good. However after I came and they licked the cum off my chest I started feeling dirty, perverted, disgusting, ashamed and sorry for the dogs. I started really regretting my actions and swore never to do it again (only to come back the next day for more).Anyway, my question to everyone participating on this forum is;Do you feel the same way afterwards? Is it just your horniness that takes control and the only outlet is the dog sitting in the corner?I mean lets face it, what we are doing is illegal in most places. We are outcasts. I bet everyone in this forum keeps there activities a secret. It's not something you'd tell your friends now is it?Are you ashamed of your secret life? Do you regret doing the deed afterwards?I fully understand why you all choose to have sex with animals. I know too well that it's NOT a case of there being no other options available to you. I've got a pregnant girlfriend. I don't need dogs to get laid or get a blowjob, but occasionally it's just something I can't resist.Just to point out I'm not flaming you guys or laughing at you. I'm just curious to know if this is an aspect of your life that you regret but have no control over.When I was in my first couple of years of being a active zoo,I had terrible gut wrenching guilt after each time,I swore that i would never do such a thing again...EVERY TIME!I do not like humiliation/degradation or feeling dirty,I had a hot girlfriend and no internet...I thought I was the biggest freak but also knew this is what/whom i was...Only after years of hideing and sometimes supressing my true feelings did I eventually embrace my zoo side and now am a much happier person.
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Seapigsfly.....Welcome to our world!!! I hope your stay and experiences are joyious ones. Blessed Be!!
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to answer your ?? no I'm not ashamed of loving my companion-lovers..they love me as moch as I love them...take care and be safe..horny in so cal. :diablo
QUOTE (cohort @ Sep 29 2006, 09:22 PM) This thread should definitely be moved. I'll answer your question because you don't seem like a "troll". What you are experiencing is perfectly normal - for you, but that might not be normal for everyone. In fact, I'm pretty sure it is not. There are some who enjoy sex with animals because they love them and they love the sex. There is a romantic, playful bond between human and animal. But also, there are some who enjoy sex with animals because it is taboo and it makes them feel "dirty". And they like it for those reasons, in particular.If you are in the second category - and it seems likely that you are, your experience goes like this: When your arousal is high and the hormones are flowing, it's easy to submit to those feelings and engage in an activity you believe "degrades" you. After you orgasm, the chemicals in your brain return to normal and you look upon your act with disgust and regret. But you enjoyed the gratification and your brain has learned what it should do the next time you are aroused. Get on all fours, puppy!!What you need to realize, is that everyone isn't having the same experience that you are. So there may be some that are ashamed - and in fact they may enjoy it because it makes them feel that way.However, there are others - if not a profound majority, who are not ashamed and who would be offended to even be asked the question. For them it would be like asking if they're ashamed of their wife, or disgusted by the sight of her. Just as you don't see things from their perspective, they won't see things the way you do.If you're going to ask questions like this, you'll need to be a bit more alert to the way other people view their experiences. It would be very easy to insult someone who is a caring, gentle, and very sincere lover of animals.I hope that helped answer your questions. ...and don't be too upset if this thread is moved. It really belongs in a zoo-centric area, and not the general forum.Cheers! This is an awesome reply.I guess I don't have to repeat it I, personally, am not ashamed at all, though I do not bandy the fact that I am a zoo around. My girlfriend knows and approves and this is enough.
Although I have never been ashamed , before, during or after having sex with my female animals, I believe that we are less horny after we ejaculate. Although I feel less horny after, I use this time to express to my animal how much that I appreciate her , by continuing to hug her , talk to her, rub her where she likes it, etc. I enjoy doing this so why would I feel ashamed.
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