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There has been some writing in the papers about a documentary exhibition in Norway, regarding homosexuality in animals. At least I think it is a documentary. Has anyone of you read something more about that exhibition, or do we even have folks from Norway here who have been there themself? (And don't mind to give us a summary)
Nope, haven't heard a bit about it.
I was there with my college class a few months back, and our teacher pulled some strings and got the best biologist on that area to tour us.Basically there were some pictures on the walls, showing same sex animals mating. And there were lots of information all around on all animals.Extremely many types of animals are , and in some species there were up to 50% i think they said.that doesnt nearly sum it up, but i am really tired now.. if you want to know more, just post a reply and i will write a better rewiev
there were probably plenty of pictures of Orcas and Dolphins up there i expect?...
I found some links somewhere else :http://www.dwblog.net/?p=1315http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6066606.stmhttp://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200610/s1775806.htm
I've heard of that in Oslo. Kinda fills me with anger that it took so damn long for a single person to realize what I'd known about for such a long time though.
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QUOTE (tremain @ Feb 21 2007, 05:25 PM) I've heard of that in Oslo. Kinda fills me with anger that it took so damn long for a single person to realize what I'd known about for such a long time though.
I didn't get a chance to watch it, but the LOGO network had a television show on a couple weeks ago about animals.
QUOTE (Itzwolf @ Feb 24 2007, 05:27 AM) I didn't get a chance to watch it, but the LOGO network had a television show on a couple weeks ago about animals. I was going to say, I live in the UK and watched a show on TV about a year maybe two years ago. The man who presented it was American. He travelled in the US and spoke to a woman there who had done research. I seem to recall she lived on a farm in the mid-west. He also interviewed people in the UK I think about birds. In fact, I'm sure he visited the site in the UK where a pair of males had set up a nest together. I remember a lake and think it was a wading bird. Don't quote me on all this, I'm describing to the best of my memory. One thing I do remember is in the end, he found that it wasn't a case of whether or not it happened. He found plenty of evidence that it does. It had more to do with a Victorian mindset. This made some people refuse to believe it. Others simply ignored it. Bloody Victorians have alot to answer for I say! Hope this helps!peaceBULLZdawg
Strewth! Australia rocked by 'lesbian' koala revelationBy Roger DobsonPublished: 25 February 2007Female koalas indulge in lesbian "sex sessions", rejecting male suitors and attempting to mate with each other, sometimes up to five at a time, according to researchers.The furry, eucalyptus-eating creatures appear to develop this tendency for same-sex liaisons when they are in captivity. In the wild, they remain heterosexual.Scientists monitoring the marsupials with digital cameras counted three homosexual interactions for every heterosexual one."Some females rejected the advances of males that were in their enclosures, only to become willing participants in homosexual encounters immediately after," say the researchers."On several occasions more than one pair of females shared the same pole, and multiple females mounted each other simultaneously. At least one multiple encounter involved five female koalas."One theory put forward by the researchers is that the females do it to attract males; another is that it is simply hormonal, or that it is a stress reliever.Scientists from the University of Queensland studied 130 koalas in captivity and will publish their results in the journal Applied Animal Behaviour Science."Our aim was to determine the extent of differences in the homosexual and heterosexual behaviour of female koalas and thereby to determine the purpose of female homosexual behaviour in the koala," say the researchers."Wild koalas brought into captivity clearly display homosexual behaviour on a regular basis. A total of 15 heterosexual and 43 homosexual interactions were recorded in separate animals. Homosexual behaviour was restricted to females only. Heterosexual encounters were typically twice as long as homosexual encounters," they add.
QUOTE (Faunak8 @ Feb 26 2007, 08:34 AM) Strewth! Australia rocked by 'lesbian' koala revelationBy Roger DobsonPublished: 25 February 2007 Very interesting! Funny too!What if the religious right get a hold of this story? Some of them say people should be crucified. Isn't the poor koala a threatened species? Little guys have no chance now. Koala crucifixion stories are something to look out for now. QUOTE 'On several occasions more than one pair of females shared the same pole'Does that suggest cohabitation or a threesome? Kidding aside, one thing that I found it interesting was the so called experts give explanations that reveal more about themselves than the koala. For me, it backs up what I said about people’s attitude. Look at their theory for example, I quote; 'One theory put forward by the researchers is that the females do it to attract males; another is that it is simply hormonal or that it is a stress reliever'OK...........................So..............they are , so they can be straight? The hormonal thing almost knocks on the 'gay gene' door for one. Also, I'd be interested to see if that is a man who thinks that. That smells a bit chauvinistic. Maybe it's 'that time of the month' too!! Stress reliever??? Aren't they stoned off their heads all the time from eating eucalyptus leaves? If these guys are still stressed after eating them, can you imagine them without these leaves to eat? I see a koala version of TV show South Park's character called Tweek, his parents have a coffee shop and he's been raised drinking coffee!!! Yikes!!Another couple of comments also interested me, again I quote;'The furry, eucalyptus-eating creatures appear to develop this tendency for same-sex liaisons when they are in captivity. In the wild, they remain heterosexual'Just because it hasn't been observed in the wild doesn't mean it does not happen in the wild. Remember this was observed by scientists who have digital cameras that film them 24/7. Another point to consider is what this implies. That if they are living 'naturally' they are straight, but if you place them in an 'unnatural' environment, they turn . Again, I quote;"Our aim was to determine the extent of differences in the and heterosexual behaviour of female koalas and thereby to determine the purpose of female behaviour in the koala," say the researchers'The 'extent of differences' I feels that says much more about how we are conditioned to think by society. It doesn't surprise me that they feel that by studying this a 'purpose' will be discovered. So in other words, there must be an agenda, why else would they do it? I think I know the answer, it's simply natural behavior. Why do humans have sex with someone else? , straight, bi, whatever the case may be, generally it's about bonding. A need to have contact or comforting each other. Maybe they say to each other, 'They want to watch? Kinky buggers. Let's give em a good show girls!!' Now I may appear to be over thinking or even paranoid by making these points. But throughout history, people have been persecuted time and time again. In many parts of the world even today it is a crime with varying degrees of punishment. I'm fortunate to live in a free society and generally have no problems. But I have directly experienced homophobia, so being paranoid really has to do with survival. The George Bush's & Sadams of this world force me to. Reading about how the Nazis manipulated people through propaganda was another eye opener. The most dangerous thoughts are the ones that are not spoken. Implications are easily hidden with clever words. Not recognising an implication doesn't mean the true point doesn't get through. Personally speaking, it confirmed to me the conclusions the presenter had in the TV show I watched. Fascinating stuff!! Thanks for posting it. peaceBULLZdawg
I like boy dogs. And I am a boy. Am the only boy that wants to suck them?
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QUOTE (sweetwater2112 @ Feb 27 2007, 07:14 AM) I like boy dogs. And I am a boy. Am the only boy that wants to suck them? Hello sweetwater, and assuming you're a "boy" over 18 to the forum!I'm sure a look through the male homemade section here will show you that we have many many "old boys" who love boy dogs and love to suck them, and this is not related to their human sexuality. G@y (censored for Bullzdawg ), bi or straight, a doggy cock is a joy forever!I have a 23 year old stallion who stood at stud for many years, but is showing a marked sexual interest in another stallion. His intentions are unmistakable (and not very honourable!). One of these days I'll have my camera handy, when I get around to figuring out how to take & upload video! I would say he's bi not , because given the choice he would pick a mare every time, but if none is available - well, a fella has needs! Like prisoners, I guess.BTW - no offence intended Bd
QUOTE (rololover @ Feb 27 2007, 01:19 PM) G@y (censored for Bullzdawg) ROFLMAO!!!!! Very kind of you to think of me. What can I say, I must have been suffering from a mild case of the newbies! It manifests itself in the form of hiccups and you tend to trip up once or twice. Foot in mouth is another unfortunate side effect. I'm happy to say after a few healthy doses of BF I have cleared most the problem. I just suffer slightly from red face now. But laughing at myself should clear that up eventually!! To prove that my treatment has been effective; This parade is dedicated to you dude! Hope you enjoyed it! peace BULLZdawg
QUOTE (BULLZdawg @ Feb 27 2007, 08:37 PM) QUOTE (rololover @ Feb 27 2007, 01:19 PM) G@y (censored for Bullzdawg) ROFLMAO!!!!! Very kind of you to think of me. What can I say, I must have been suffering from a mild case of the newbies! It manifests itself in the form of hiccups and you tend to trip up once or twice. Foot in mouth is another unfortunate side effect. I'm happy to say after a few healthy doses of BF I have cleared most the problem. I just suffer slightly from red face now. But laughing at myself should clear that up eventually!! To prove that my treatment has been effective; This parade is dedicated to you dude! Hope you enjoyed it! peace BULLZdawg - hey, watch where you're putting your hands!
At least your stud would pick mares over the otherOne of mine wontWhere larg horse breeding operations run studs as a herd they will make friendships and mount there buddy.This works because the mares are at a different ranch. Horses can smell as good as a GSD and there noze will smell girls miles away.When the US had large ranches they would bring the diferent horse bands in for the winter cutting the studs into a herd of there own alawing the mares to foal. As they started to show spring totostrone the boys were cut back out of there winter herd and back to there summer range picking up there mares for the year.In the social structure that is left [small farms or people with 2 stallions which in the world of AI is keeping them to feed and care for as nobody breeds live service any more. My wife reminds me of this pluss the extra work the balls mean every day] studs will fight very violently with an exception here or there. There death being possable the sad result of a unlocked gate or downed fence. Some one droping buy and getting pushed over after opening there stall to pat one and he leaving. Rus
I quote from the January 07, 2007 Sunday Times which I found at the URL provided at the bottom of the article:In the 21st century, we have decoded human DNA, we can examine the stars of distant galaxies and we have even begun to unlock the myriad mechanisms inside the human brain, but of one universally natural phenomenon we still know virtually nothing. That phenomenon is homosexuality.When I was a teenager trying to find out how or why I turned out , there were very few reference books to help me. The phenomenon itself had been scientifically documented by the American social scientist Alfred Kinsey — but he proffered no explanation of its origins. It had befuddled Freud.The scientific consensus had been laid out in the Wolfenden report in 1957, which solemnly concluded that homosexuality was “compatible with full mental health”. But the tantalising questions endured. Are people born ? Is it genetic? Is it related to hormonal variations in the womb during pregnancy? Could it be affected by early childhood environment? Or is it a function of some other unknown factor?We still don’t know. All we know is that it appears to be fixed by about the age of three. This lack of precision is partly due to the complexity of the phenomenon. Who knows whether sexual orientation isn’t multi-determined by any number of genetic, environmental or hormonal factors?But our ignorance is also due to ideology. Neither the right nor the left has really wanted to know. Anti- social conservatives have long been uninterested in research that might prove the genetic basis of homosexuality — because it would “normalise” it. And the post-modern left insists that sexual orientation is socially constructed, and so scientific research is irrelevant. This politically correct right-left pincer has essentially slowed research on homosexuality to a crawl. Even now, a teen has barely more knowledge than I did 25 years ago.Yes, there are some recently uncovered, tantalising genetic clues, gleaned more from the maternal DNA lineage than the paternal one. There are studies pointing to clear differences between and heterosexual hypothalamuses in the brain.There’s a huge new volume of data about animal homosexuality, revealing it to be ubiquitous and complex. And as more and more people have emerged into the sunlight of public life, the range of their own stories has added to our collective understanding of what being , in all its varieties, can mean.The trouble is: whenever science gets closer to figuring out the puzzle, politics intervenes. And so last week, Martina Navratilova and the usual suspects protested against new research on sheep being conducted at Oregon State University.The researchers have been adjusting various hormones in the brains of rams to try to see if they can get them to be interested in the opposite sex. The indifference of many rams to otherwise attractive and fertile ewes is a drag on sheep-breeding, it seems. We don’t have any peer-reviewed studies yet, but reports of success in manipulating the sexual behaviour of some rams have led to an outcry.The rams have a right to be what they are, Navratilova complains. She may be a little defensive about the breeding of farm animals — but you can see her broader worry. If you can figure out how to flip the switch off in sheep, how long will it be before someone tries to do the same in humans?The good news, then, is that the empirical origins of sexual orientation are slowly being discovered. The bad news is that once discovered, they could be manipulated. There seems no likelihood in the foreseeable future of a hormonal treatment that could affect sexual orientation in adult humans. It’s been tried to no avail for decades — and once drove great men like the brilliant codebreaker Alan Turing to suicide.But it’s not unimaginable to see scientific insight into the origins of animal homosexuality being abused if directed towards human beings in their first months and years. Maybe hormonal manipulation in utero could make homosexuality less likely in a sheep — or a child. Or maybe in the future, research like that being done now on sheep could be used to detect orientation in foetuses or babies — and prevent it. Why not, if that’s what parents wish?The answer, of course, is an ethical no-brainer. Experimenting on other human beings crosses a bright moral line — even when that other human being is in your own womb. There is no medical reason for meddling with anyone’s sexual orientation, let alone in the crucial first months of a human being’s life. And the potential for all sorts of unintended consequences is huge. Most ethical doctors would abhor such practices. And rightly so. Laws could even be passed, and enforced, to ban them.My source is, apprently, unlinkable. However, the base is timesonline.co.uk and search for "Gay Sheep" and the article is the second one on the list.Despite the obviously biased tone, this article does raise interesting questions concerning sexuality. The similarities between this line of experimentation and those done in the movie Gatika (sp?) are almost scary. I mean, while this does support the stereotypical arguement of nature over nurture, it may lead to a "cure" for homosexuality which raises a whole slew of philosophical questions which we are, apparently, not supposed to raise on these boards. So, I'll merely state that the implications of the subject matter in this article are very grave indeed.
Well at one time I used to breed German Shepherds and I saw Lesbian sex amongst the bitches quite often
I know Bonobos exhibit behaviors, both males and females.
QUOTE (BULLZdawg @ Feb 24 2007, 05:56 AM) QUOTE (Itzwolf @ Feb 24 2007, 05:27 AM) I remember a lake and think it was a wading bird. Don't quote me on all this, I'm describing to the best of my memory. Yeh they were swans! Yeh ive seen that programme it was called "the truth about animals" it was intresting to watch... and one lady this bloke spoke to was convince her 2 dogs were and that the dog having sex with the other male was actually penetrating it and they both enjoyed it..it was intresting to watch!
QUOTE (Akita_fun @ Apr 29 2007, 01:06 PM) QUOTE (BULLZdawg @ Feb 24 2007, 05:56 AM) QUOTE (Itzwolf @ Feb 24 2007, 05:27 AM) I remember a lake and think it was a wading bird. Don't quote me on all this, I'm describing to the best of my memory. Yeh they were swans! Yeh ive seen that programme it was called "the truth about animals" it was intresting to watch... and one lady this bloke spoke to was convince her 2 dogs were and that the dog having sex with the other male was actually penetrating it and they both enjoyed it..it was intresting to watch! Sorry, only noticed the reply today. I wanted to post some more info on this subject and saw you quoted me. But now that you mention it, yes, it was swans. Old memory ain't what it used to be! Hope you enjoy this!LONDON (AFP) - A pair of flamingos have adopted an abandoned chick, becoming parents after being together for six years, a British conservation organisation said Monday.Carlos and Fernando had been desperate to start a family, even chasing other flamingos from their nests to take over their eggs at the Wildfowl and Wetlands Trust (WWT) in Slimbridge near Bristol.But their egg-sitting prowess made them the top choice for taking an unhatched egg under their wings when one of the Greater Flamingo nests was abandoned.The couple, together for six years, can feed chicks by producing milk in their throats."Fernando and Carlos are a same sex couple who have been known to steal other flamingos' eggs by chasing them off their nest because they wanted to rear them themselves," said WWT spokeswoman Jane Waghorn."They were rather good at sitting on eggs and hatching them so last week, when a nest was abandoned, it seemed like a good idea to make them surrogate parents." flamingos are not uncommon, she added."If there aren't enough females or they don't hit it off with them, they will pair off with other males," she said._____________________________________________________________ Carlos & Fernando!! Gotta love those names!!!!
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Animals are as varied as we are. Everyone (even animals) falls on a different point of the sexuality scale. From primarily Heterosexual to primarily . Personally, I'm a bisexual who is mostly attracted to males. My husband is a Bisexual primarily attracted to females. My cat, Shadow, was primarily Heterosexual until he was neutered. After that he was alone for a while until we got another altered male. Shadow was quite fond of him and those two would mount each other regularly, yet shadow no longer has any interest in females in heat.I wish people would stop thinking of sexuality as binary. According to several linguists, the word "homosexual" was not coined until 1869 by the Hungarian physician Karoly Maria Benkert. Before then behavior was considered a normal part of sexuality. So normal, no word was even needed for it. It's amazing how backwards modern humans really are.
I guess this exhibit shows how similiar we are to animals, no matter how much we try to deny it.
wow thats crazy about the rams... who knew?
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