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Hi everyone!I've heard (from stories on the Internet) about various jobs collecting horse or dog semen for scientific studies. Does anyone have any experiences along these lines they'd care to share? What a job!Where can one find a job like that? What qualifications are needed? (grin) What's the job interview like? (bigger grin)I wonder what percentage of people working in this field have "ultierior motives"? I can just picture a zoophile feigning detatched scientific interest as he performs his "studies" all day long. BearBear
QUOTE (BearBear @ Aug 24 2005, 06:30 AM) Where can one find a job like that? What qualifications are needed? (grin) What's the job interview like? (bigger grin)I wonder what percentage of people working in this field have "ultierior motives"? I can just picture a zoophile feigning detatched scientific interest as he performs his "studies" all day long. my best freind is a horse breeder, and seeing what she does, being a semen collector wouldnt be ALL fun and games. if you do it for a living, id say about 97% of the time, you're in a lab testing the semen for shock, diseases, etc. and the other 3% youre actually getting the sperm. and when you are doing the collecting, youre surrounded by a bunch of people, and you have to avoid getting kicked or stomped. but i suppose if youre a science-loving zoo, it would be a great job but i would imagine most people in the field have SOME attraction to animals, seeing as how many 'normal' people think it is disgusting this is just for horses, though. not sure what a dog breeder does
moved to zoo category
Darkhorse42 is quite right.Collecting stallions is like 60 seconds of pure chaos and terror. Nothing like 1200 pounds of sex crazed stallion trying to mount anything near him, including you.Having to wash his penis which he will probably object to and try to kick your teeth out when you touch him.Having the mare object if you aren't using a phantom and she's kicking at the stallion and the handler.Doing all the prep work on the AV and gear making sure things are perfect like the internal temperature otherwise the stallion will object or won't work the AV.Then all the semen testing and cleanup afterwards.I collect visiting stallions at a breeding ranch and the majority of them have no manners, training or discipline. They are a terror in the breeding shed and extremely dangerous to be around. The ranch stallions I train and work with are much more calm and mannered and are not as great a threat.And there are always people watching and commenting and telling you that it looks so easy and controlled.I wish!There are perks if one is truly interested in the work. There is nothing like foaling season the following year and seeing all the newborn foals that you had a hand in creating.
QUOTE (stablehelp @ Aug 24 2005, 03:26 PM) I collect visiting stallions at a breeding ranch and the majority of them have no manners, training or discipline. They are a terror in the breeding shed and extremely dangerous to be around. The ranch stallions I train and work with are much more calm and mannered and are not as great a threat. Studs are a real scourge because of their arrogance around mares, but we can thank horse breeders for that, preferring to keep their $150,000 stallion safe so he can charge over $15,000 for a shot of their stallion's sperm. It's a pity because these stallions have a tendancy to be arrogant and dangerous. I've been told that there's a way to retrain studs which involve several pregnant brood mares and within a week, he'll be bruised, but a lot more well mannered and respectful of mares.
I have found the shop talk among those involved in semen collection interesting. It's alot of technical stuff about equipment and methods and stallion preferrences. It's all very clinical. I don't think anyone I've met was really sexually excited about the work they did but who knows. Come to think about it, if I was a supervisor of a semen collection operation I would be kind of concerned about someone who seemed too into their work!
Don't get me wrong, Grevy. I LOVE my work!!!!!The stallions come into the breeding shed waving their massive erections and prancing all about.I get to take hold of their penis and wash it and caress it and clean it. Usually in front of several sets of watchful and curious eyes.Then I assist the stallion as he mounts and usually have to help him find the mares vulva. It is not unusual to keep ones hand on the base of the stallion's penis to feel when he ejaculates.When breeding is over I again have to take his semen covered penis into my hands and wash it for him.During the process I usually get covered in mare urine and stallion semen.Again while a number of people watch and gasp in amazement and awe at the overall process. And think that absolutely nothing is wrong and that it seems natural for me to get covered in mare piss and whatever else all day long.Is this fun or what????? Do I know how to have a good time?Unfortunately it is all too supervised and closely watched to have too much fun with it.By the end of the day when you work with a lot of stallions and breeding my clothes actually reek of estrus mare and it is somewhat dangerous for me to head in the pen of the wrong stallion because they will get agressive and try to mount me.It is fun to go into the local store or gas station for a soda and the poeple around me get my scent and try to figure out what cologne or after shave I am using. Corral #5 is my favorite scent.The comments about aggressive and nasty stallions come from people who have to deal with other peoples stallions. And yes a lot of owners never even come out to see or visit or or watch their horse. It is strictly a financial deal and they could care less how the stallion acts. Some ranches let the stallions get away with anything short of murder and they get very aggressive and flat out dangerous in the breeding shed.I have one 1300 pound stallion that loves to rear when he gets near the mare. It has nothing to do with the mounting process or getting to the mare. It is an aggression posture and he does it like 5-10-20 times before he mounts. He is massively dangerous to be around and has sent two of my breeding crew to the local clinic for injuries. I have spent time with him teaching him manners and he is getting better but in essence I do it to protect myself since the owner will not pay for the horse to be retrained.When you deal with 4 or 5 of those type of stallions a day, you tend to get a little negative or sensitive about staying alive.Granted I deal with racing stallions and they tend to be a tad bit more high strung than other breeds. Ideally I would like my own mellow stallion in my own barn at my home where I could do some closer and more personal breeding "training." Yeah, that's it..... Maybe in time......Stablehelp
StablehelpThank you for taking the time to post on this subject. It is very nice to learn about this from someone who is out in the field.
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Hi,I have ponies and breed them too, although not commercially. Its just for fun and watching the babies grow up is a real joy.I like the breeding time, although I don't have a need for a phantom mount, sometimes I pull the studs penis aside and well do with it what I will.Everyone is right about cleaning. Infection can cause problems, both for a mare and you.It can be fun if the operration is for fun. Of course if others are around, they must be part of it.I had breed my mares in front of female frineds and owners, and the sight of seeing a large cock go insde the mare is quite errotic. I think a lot of them woman wet their pants. The process is pretty quick though.Ponylover
Dear Stablehelp,My apologies for that off hand sentence at the end of my last post. I was kidding around when I wrote it. I should have been a bit more clear.Grevy
Thanks for the details, Stablehand! Living in the city, I only have vague notions of what goes on in breeding farms, and your "day in the life of" description is a good education (as well as a turn-on!) for people like me. Certainly sounds like hard and sometimes very dangerous work. That being said, have there been times when you've been turned-on while on the job? Or does that only happen afterwards, when it's more private and a whole lot safer?BearBear
Er, my appologies! I meant "Stablehelp", not "Stablehand". He must be some other guy...BB
BearBear:I most certainly do enjoy being around breeding horses and being involved in the process.I have always been fascinated by watching a stallion and a mare get together. I thnk a breeding stallion in action is one of the most impressive and erotic sights I can think of.The courting, sniffing, bugling and mare responses during the foreplay. The stallion mounting the mare with their large erections. The mating act and then the stallion withdrawing from the mare with all the aftermath there in plan sight.I most certainly do get very caught up in the whole process! But unfortunately there always seems to be people around or a crowd by the time things are done with so it seems somewhat anti-climatic for all involved.My peronsal horses have always been stabled at public stables or breeding ranches where they are always in the open and certain access is somewhat limited.Finally getting the opportunity to breed one or five or ten mares a day is more or less one of my wildest dreams come true.But with that volume of breeding, it "almost" becomes work! Grin. Then dealing with management and owners becomes a real pain in the butt.Plus remember that breeding a mare to a stallion consists of one or two minutes of mayhem and chaos for the mating act to be completed.You may have to tease anywhere from 5 to 50 mares a day before you find one receptive and ready to breed. Teasing takes HOURS and hours of work and you may end up with no mares actually ready to be mated that day.But in the long run, it is still one heck of a way to spend the day! There is nothing like getting paid to wash stallion penises and mare vulvas all day long! Or getting congratulated by an owner when their first time stallion ejaculates all over the mares backside and your arm and shoulder when he misses the mares vulva. It is a very curious way to make a living! Grin.........Stablehelp
nice to see that someone else works in the breeding business.i myself manage a breeding services facility, and yes that involves collecting stallions and inseminating mares. it is a great job and is alot of fun, even though it can be a challenge at times. anyways i noticed the question concerning education for this area of work, and that really varies. personally i have a masters in equine reproduction, but i know people who are qualified to do collections and have only graduated highschool.the only way i have seen that happen is when the person has been working with the company for a few years and has enough experience where i felt comfortable teaching him to do collections.
i am actually learning how too collect studs where i work though i havent been able to do it myself yet. i have to get used to handleing the studs and taking them to the phantom as well as correcting any mounting or dismounting errors that may occur durring the collection process. i also wash them and prepare the AV (it isnt that hard to do .... but then again we use the CSU model with disposable liners) as well as prep the semen for analysis. hopefully by the start of the next breeding season i will be able to man the AV. i am also going to college majoring in equine reproduction. from my research 60% of all breeding managers in the US have atleast a masters in this. i dont see why you would need that kind of education just for doing collections, but i think it is more for the analysis and processing part that comes after.
Thanks again to everyone for sharing your thoughts and experiences. This has been quite informative... I had no idea someone could get a masters degree in equine reproduction!BearBear
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