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Posted by dtdab on April 27th 2005, 22:13

i think this would be a good thread for people new to this to be informed about the effects this has had on other people,s relationships good or bad. do you hide your actions and keep it to yourself, does your friend or loved one just get involved for you and they don,t much care for it. has your experience,s with this improved your life with your spouse or friend. tell your story or stories. all posters will get a 10 vote for contributing.

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Posted by Hopeless_endevor on April 27th 2005, 22:18

I brought the subject up to my (ex) husband and he was totally turned off by the idea and seemed to become angry about it. That's not the reason he's my ex husband, but it's just a tiny indication of the rest of our lives.I got the courage up to tell my boyfriend one night about what i was interested in. It took some liquor but he was quite receptive to the idea. He's very much interested in adding a dog to our sex lives together. He's admitted he wanted to bring something up to me, but he was afraid of how i'd react to him saying such a thing. Neither of us are practicing zoo's, but we're both curious and intend to be practicing =)As far as my family or friends go, i don't mention it to them. My family is of the good christian variety and it doesn't seem like anything that's their business. I don't tell them about my other sex, why this =)

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Posted by Fire Foxx on April 27th 2005, 22:33

ive tried to avoid talking to family about it, and so far im sucessfull.but i have told afew of my friends and for the most part they are very accepting of it.As a matter of face, me and one of my friends spent quite awhile talking about it and came to the conclusion that he had the same feelings as i do about animals, which was a plesant surprise

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Posted by IndianaGal on April 27th 2005, 22:47

I've told two people about it...very very cautiously. One of them is simply an online friend of mine that has always shared his deepest secrets, sexual and non, with me. He was extremely freaked out and hasn't talked to me in a few weeks.The other shares an interest with me actually and would like to watch, but not participate.The only other person in my life right now would be my best friend and roommate. We are EXTREMELY different people, however. She is actually vocally disgusted that I masturbate. She helped me move and found one of my vibrators and was appalled saying that she will never masturbate as it grosses her out. I can only imagine how she would take something like this...And I'm single. I didn't share it with the last guy I dated and it is a good thing as he's using everything he has to ruin my good name around here.

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Posted by LadyRottweiler on April 27th 2005, 23:22

QUOTE (IndianaGal @ Apr 27 2005, 10:47 PM) I didn't share it with the last guy I dated and it is a good thing as he's using everything he has to ruin my good name around here. Huh?

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Posted by sharpxl521 on April 28th 2005, 0:08

Well i've always kept it a closely guarded secret and never dared to tell my partner, for fear of us breaking up. But one night things were getting pretty adventurous in the bedroom and it just felt like the right time to say something about it. BIG MISTAKE!!!. It put an instant end to our night of passion and we didn't even speak for a week. Eventually we sat down to talk things through, when i realised my right hand didn't even have a mouth . So that put an end to the problems and things are much better between us now .

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Posted by southflorida on April 28th 2005, 0:28

well I told my partner of 5 years about a week? or two ago... it appers he is numb -or playing the avoidance game -all situations are different -and our relationship is not picturesque -the reason I told him is because I have decieded that I can longer deprive myself of the pursuit of happiness -so it was basically a notice -deal with it or I'm outta here... out of fairness I have given him a legnthy time frame -and now I have been openly typing on the board here -and discussing little funny things that happen in threads -and he still just kinda stays ambivilent -whatever -I have always been very open -no lies or secrets other than the zoo issue -I don't lie to my partner -so instead of just dismissing him which I tought wouldn't be fair or kind -I have risked exposing myself -given him the option to accept me for what I am -and that's more than fair -balls in his court...

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Posted by k9couple on April 28th 2005, 2:08

QUOTE (IndianaGal @ Apr 27 2005, 09:47 PM) And I'm single. I didn't share it with the last guy I dated and it is a good thing as he's using everything he has to ruin my good name around here. Oh my

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Posted by Hopeless_endevor on April 28th 2005, 3:48

QUOTE (k9couple @ Apr 27 2005, 08:08 PM) QUOTE (IndianaGal @ Apr 27 2005, 09:47 PM) And I'm single.  I didn't share it with the last guy I dated and it is a good thing as he's using everything he has to ruin my good name around here. Oh my What's the point of someone loving you if they aren't willing to love and accept you for everything you feel ?Recently the BF and i discussed everything, from deep dark desires to secrets.I'm willing to do things with him because i think i trust him, and likewise he trusts me and is willing to at least wtach if not participate. Luckily for me he's got the fantasy of having sex with me after a dog, and/or while i'm full of cum, so in this case it works out for me. He was afraid to say anything about involving a dog for fear it's turn ME off !

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Posted by Lugarou on April 28th 2005, 5:04

My current GF took the Furry interest fairly well and even appeared to be ok with discussion about bestiality. One night I confessed. The next 2 weeks were kinda rough - full of objections, arguments and debates. I got out references, printed posts from the forums and gave her space to think about it. Now she has found a point of tolerance. She is just not interested in participating. She might be interested in watching, but she isn't sure. Her whole response is one of cold tolerance, with a "If you get excited by it, that might get me excited about sex with you." We had the discussion about "if you have animals, will you still need me?". We discussed spices vs main courses. If she was just a little more saying "that is hot" or such, I'd be feeling better. She has watched the beastie porn or looked at pics and had questions, and gets horny (she says any porn will get her going). I'm not sure where it stands really.

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Posted by dtdab on April 28th 2005, 8:50

i think i would be a good case study. i am a devoted zoo and have been for over 25 years. i thought as i got older i might start to loose interest (not). i think about it more now than ever. i have a hard time staying focused on things i am working on because i think about it all the time, sex is by far the most important thing in my life ( i think i need help ). i have been married for over 22 years. at first my wife was disgusted with the thought of animal sex. every time we tried it it seemed like it always ended up in a fight. this was really important to me and i was going nowhere with it. 15 years of my life went by with not much improvement. i thought my life was going to pass me by and i would not be able to do the things i so much craved. it seemed like our sex life was starting to suffer to, we were losing our sexual lust for each other, they say this is normal for couples that have been married that long. i thought no matter what i would stand by her side...friends to the end. even thou things didn,t look that good i did not give up. then one day it was like a night and day difference. i think she really starting to like it. we do it more now than we ever have. our love making went from 10 to 20 minutes to a couple of hours plus. we got our sexual lust back more now than ever. there is not a week that goes by that we do not enjoy sex with our animals. i would like to finish by saying to anyone interested in this topic to never give up something you enjoy. it,s amazing what some gentle manipulation and lots of vodka can do.

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Posted by mistakenidentity on April 28th 2005, 9:14

I've never told anyone in my family about it, I don't think they'd really understand. My parents are some-what homophobic and don't seem to like anything which is sexually different, so I don't plan on telling them soon The only person I've ever told is a good online friend of mine. I was a little worried about what she'd think, but she took it fine. We're still good friends and talk quite often. She's very open-minded, which is a great thing

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Posted by wyldfyre67 on April 28th 2005, 9:17

I discovered I was into this 4 years ago... My ex and I had always enjoyed a healthy sex life... I showed him a picture of a girl and a dog ... :0) to see his reaction... his wasnt a good reaction.. so the subject matter was dropped... I have recently started seeing someone... I met this man on an alternative site ... so he is very open minded... we were talking about boundaries... and he brought up beastiality... and flat out asked me if I would do it.... well I always tell people that if they ask me a question I will not lie... so I didnt ... and told him that not only would I but I have... Funny he didnt totally believe me till we got back to my place and I proved to him I have... He took the news rather well and seems to like the idea ...

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Posted by ladyann on April 28th 2005, 13:51

Since coming to this board, It has helped me realize I'm not the only one imagine that . I remember the only time my husband and I talked about it was driving in the car one day can't remember how we were even on the subject maybe talking about a friend of his long time ago. Anyway he said she had sex with a dog. And he told me what it was called zoophilia I didn't even know there was a name for it back then. I've kidded around with him about sex with animals we have some mares and when I don't give it to him as much as he likes he gets frustrated and I tell him you've got willing girls in the field he doesn't reply. I know I've had dreams about it and I talk in my sleep maybe he secretly knows and is waiting for me to say something lol nahh doubt it. Also my fav. position when we are together is doggiestyle. I would love to have my man know and accept and be a willing zoo that would be my dream come true. Who knows anything is possible.

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Posted by dawgz on April 28th 2005, 16:17

Nope, I haven't told anybody outside of this board. I have the ultra conservative family, and don't even want to attempt to go down that road with them.

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Posted by k9Pete on April 28th 2005, 16:35

No never told anyone, my parents don't even like the thought that im having sex with members of the same species and as for telling my Gf no i havn't and will not be for a while if at all, im still at uni and wouldn't want it going round campus

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Posted by Ymirthefirst on April 28th 2005, 17:30

i'm in a reasonably long term relationship, 6 years, with a gil who i couldn;t live without. ..hence the dilema. what if i tell her and she disapears into nothingness within a week? i have a strong feeling that my brother knows, he has found various pieces of fiction and movies left carelessly lying arround, and some deliberatly to see what he would do. mostly he just asked if they were mine, and told me to be a little more careful. but he and i are extremely close, and if anything we are better friends now than ever. if i lost either my bro or my GF i would be devastated.personally i don't think it's worth the risk...but hypothetically...what should i say? how do i even broach the subject with her?

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Posted by Snuffles on April 28th 2005, 18:36

My human mate is also a zoo, so that of course works out fine. Most of my furry/therian friends know and they all accept it and supoprt me. Two of my mundane friends have expressed displeasure, one of them even going so far as to make noises about ending the friendship. I have tried to educate this person but she refuses to be the least bit understanding or exploratory.

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Posted by dogfood on April 28th 2005, 18:42

I haven't spoken to anyone about it, ever. I don't plan to tell my family, but I have no idea how my friends would react. They're not the kind of people who would hold it against me, but I just don't know if I could bring myself to tell them.

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Posted by dtdab on April 28th 2005, 19:09

QUOTE (Ymirthefirst @ Apr 28 2005, 04:30 PM) i'm in a reasonably long term relationship, 6 years, with a gil who i couldn;t live without. ..hence the dilema.  what if i tell her and she disapears into nothingness within a week?  i have a strong feeling that my brother knows, he has found various pieces of fiction and movies left carelessly lying arround, and some deliberatly to see what he would do.  mostly he just asked if they were mine, and told me to be a little more careful.  but he and i are extremely close, and if anything we are better friends now than ever.  if i lost either my bro or my GF i would be devastated.personally i don't think it's worth the risk...but hypothetically...what should i say? how do i even broach the subject with her? Ymirthefirst i think your brother would accept you no matter what, but if you ask me i would not tell him. no one needs to know but your sexual partner. stories can get blown out of perportion. try talking to your GF about it and see what happens...i would like to tell this quick story. a man in his early 20s falls in love and gets married. he has a beautiful wife and is fairly happy, but he has a hidden secret. he thinks that if he tells his wife that she will leave him. he is devoted to his wife so even thou his desire for this is so strong he keeps his thoughts hidden. 60 years goes by, he is sitting with his wife one day and finally decides to tells her about his hidden obession. after he tells her she looks at her husband with total shock on her face. a few minutes goes by with no answer, she looks up at her husband and says i have a confession to make i have been a devoted zoo for over 60 years. i wanted to tell you about it but thought you would hate me for it so i never did......i would like to finish by saying if it is important to you talk about it don,t keep it hidden. you might be surprised by the answer you get.

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Posted by Ymirthefirst on April 29th 2005, 2:51

thanks dtdab. i've not thought of it like that. i mean, even if she's not interested in zoo, maybe she has something hidden she is wants to tell me, and how could you not after you partner admits they are a zoo!ok ok ok ok. i'm gonna try and find the words to bring up the subject with her. thanks all

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Posted by mistakenidentity on April 29th 2005, 4:13

QUOTE (dtdab @ Apr 28 2005, 06:09 PM) QUOTE (Ymirthefirst @ Apr 28 2005, 04:30 PM) i'm in a reasonably long term relationship, 6 years, with a gil who i couldn;t live without. ..hence the dilema.  what if i tell her and she disapears into nothingness within a week?  i have a strong feeling that my brother knows, he has found various pieces of fiction and movies left carelessly lying arround, and some deliberatly to see what he would do.  mostly he just asked if they were mine, and told me to be a little more careful.  but he and i are extremely close, and if anything we are better friends now than ever.  if i lost either my bro or my GF i would be devastated.personally i don't think it's worth the risk...but hypothetically...what should i say? how do i even broach the subject with her? Ymirthefirst i think your brother would accept you no matter what, but if you ask me i would not tell him. no one needs to know but your sexual partner. stories can get blown out of perportion. try talking to your GF about it and see what happens...i would like to tell this quick story. a man in his early 20s falls in love and gets married. he has a beautiful wife and is fairly happy, but he has a hidden secret. he thinks that if he tells his wife that she will leave him. he is devoted to his wife so even thou his desire for this is so strong he keeps his thoughts hidden. 60 years goes by, he is sitting with his wife one day and finally decides to tells her about his hidden obession. after he tells her she looks at her husband with total shock on her face. a few minutes goes by with no answer, she looks up at her husband and says i have a confession to make i have been a devoted zoo for over 60 years. i wanted to tell you about it but thought you would hate me for it so i never did......i would like to finish by saying if it is important to you talk about it don,t keep it hidden. you might be surprised by the answer you get. It'd be horrible going for so long without telling and then finding out they're the same. I would hate for something like this to happen to me

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Posted by (ζ) on April 29th 2005, 4:18

Divorced.

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Posted by AlphaDhole on April 29th 2005, 6:25

single, but involved in a boyfriend girlfriend relationship, and although I have jokingly brought it up (hes going to have to handle me if we end up together so I share my fetishes out right with him, he already said no whips or knives or anything to cause him pain, but I can tie him up ) he doesnt seem interested and probably quite against it.Though, he did change the subject awefully quick. *wonders*nah, too traditional, but there is always a possibility he has thought about it in the past and having a problem accepting it.......just as I did....a few months ago.BTW dtdab, love your new avatar! and you dont have to rate me, I am not after votes.

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Posted by Akitas4me on April 29th 2005, 6:43

QUOTE (dtdab @ Apr 27 2005, 11:50 PM) i think about it all the time, sex is by far the most important thing in my life ( i think i need help ).... ....our love making went from 10 to 20 minutes to a couple of hours plus. we got our sexual lust back more now than ever. there is not a week that goes by that we do not enjoy sex with our animals. Sounds like you get plenty of help!!! I was married for a time, and once confessed to my wife in a terrible fit of conscience. At the time, I was trying to convince myself that it was in the past (as a christian trying to overcome it), and we worked through it although it was rather uncomfortable for a while. We ended up splitting up about a year ago, and now I'wish I'd just kept my mouth shut since I finally made up my mind about what I believe and became an atheist shortly after I told her and was driven by a different set of values. I don't lie, but in that case I think it did more damage to confess than to have a secret. I'm not sure where I go from here...I'm not looking for a relationship but certainly not trying to avoid one either. I wish I had someone just to go out with and have fun, dine, go to concerts, etc but have no desire to get in a situation where I have to even consider keeping a secret of this magnitude.

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Posted by loveyababe on April 29th 2005, 9:04

i think this thread is interesting. i was told by my spouse of 15 yrs of marrage 3yrs before that of living together and two children later (18) total that he was zoo. it took a moment to catch my breath, but having lived with him so long it was ok. i love him and it makes me open to the whole idea. friends and family are sure not an option. this is a private type issus. i think most do not understand and would not want to go there with them. you know who you can talk to about this and who you can't. the board has been a place for good info for me and has further peeked my interest. there are good people here and i like that.

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Posted by mistakenidentity on April 29th 2005, 9:07

loveyababe, you're very open minded and that's a great thing. Some people would be horrified if their husband told them they loved animals in that certain way, but you weren't and that's wonderful I hope you have a great time here. I'm also pretty new myself, but it's really great here

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Posted by Banner on April 29th 2005, 16:20

As a typical guy I have always protected myself from judgement of others by ensuring I kept things tightly locked up inside. Being in a relationship has opened my eyes to a few things, (like Duh!) my wife has just as many "little secrets, desires and dreams" as I would ever have. Always seemed I was the less trusting and had to take baby steps though - chickened out really, semi deluding myself by saying to myself I was "testing the waters". In the "aint hindsight wonderful" catagory she was prepared to take more of a risk on sharing here "little secrets" with me in the early days. Anyway - long story short, I raised the bestaility subject, shared imagery/movies. She was intersted and has been supportive and mutually enjoying my interests since and talked about her own early interests, after all it's damn erotic - right? I trust you are all able to find your own way to share your desires with the one you love as I have. Its tough to do, but well worth the effort.

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Posted by fox on April 29th 2005, 17:20

QUOTE ((ζ) @ Apr 28 2005, 10:18 PM) Divorced. Thats so bad!!!

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Posted by Hopeless_endevor on April 29th 2005, 19:08

See i'm not sure how i'd have felt if my (ex) husband had said something. He's an aswfully crass guy and wouldn't have said "i love to love the dog" he would have outright said something to me like "i fuck the dog if you don't like it etc etc etc". Situations and words help alot of things. Subjects can be carefully brought up and the waters tested before anything else is said. My boyfriend is supportive, my ex disguested, even by the idea. My boyfriend however is a much greater man then my ex could ever hope to be.If my spouse or loved one came up to me and said something along the lines of "i have something i want to talk to you about" then i'd be ok, and would listen if nothing else. I know what i won't do, but just because i won't do it doesn't mean i won't support someone else.Trust is a funny thing isn't it.

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Posted by Synth_Guitarist on April 29th 2005, 22:38

I'M lucky, as of yet everyone i told about me still respect and love me. I guess thats because i know how to choose my friends...mm who knows... Mom, Dad, Brother, drummer, bassist, guitarist... and a bunch of other zoos and furries....I remember when i told my dad. What surprised me was his reaction. When the words finaly came out of my mouth he replied ' what? is that all? What a relief it was.I'm really happy i had the guts to tell everyone close to me because now i live my life without fear. What a great feeling.

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Posted by Alter_ego on May 3rd 2005, 5:33

QUOTE (loveyababe @ Apr 29 2005, 08:04 AM) i think this thread is interesting. i was told by my spouse of 15 yrs of marrage 3yrs before that of living together and two children later (18) total that he was zoo. it took a moment to catch my breath, but having lived with him so long it was ok. i love him and it makes me open to the whole idea. friends and family are sure not an option. this is a private type issus. i think most do not understand and would not want to go there with them. you know who you can talk to about this and who you can't. the board has been a place for good info for me and has further peeked my interest. there are good people here and i like that. I am so Lucky to have you in my life..... I love you!Alter......

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Posted by dtdab on May 3rd 2005, 9:38

wow..... after reading some of these stories i am glad i started this thread. i think we can all learn from each other. i would like to thank all that have contributed and please keep those stories comming.........group hug

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Posted by skin2 on May 6th 2005, 16:47

I Live on a farm and so live around my animals all the time but i would never tell my family. i did show some zoo pics to my ex gf but she strted screming that i was some kind of divent and what we were looking at was just as bad as child pics. I tried to reason with her but to no avial so my advice would be try to get them into it with out them knowing. My currnt gf i have spamed with some pics to see if she replys if she does not i will NEVER bring it up.

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Posted by melissamasochist on May 6th 2005, 18:50

My husband knows about my freakiness, but is not really into it. He said that he would probably try it once if given the chance (him with a female dog). He was pretty much vanilla until I came along. I've gotten him to try things that he thought would turn him off. Most recently, he fisted me for the first time. We've known each other since we we're teenagers so we have a built in comfort level that most relationships don't. We know each other as insecure geeky, gawky teenagers and loved each other then. That love has only grown. We first met at summer camp and then met up again fifteen years later to marry. I haven't had K-9 sex in awhile. I'm eight and a half months pregnant so I can't indulge at this time. We plan on raising our children to be comfortable around sex and sexuality but I think the K-9 thing will have to be something that they discover on their own. I don't know how I would have reacted, growing up, if my parents were into beastiality.

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Posted by cecelia40 on May 6th 2005, 19:26

You brave souls. It took me 10 years to tell my husband I was bi, but he kinda knew. We've now been married 20 years. I was pretty tipsy one night recently and told him about my dog sex. We were surfing the net and found some zoo pics. I asked to see them, judged his reaction. He wasn't really into it, I could tell, but I told him anyway. I said just once, oral, dog licking me. It didn't seem to bother him, but.... So I never told him the truth. In my 20's I'd often get oral from my dog. I guess some things are best left alone. So I've found this site, downloaded some pics, and masterbate. Be careful! Sometimes the truth will just hurt, and do no good. You don't tell an overweight person they are fat either! It just causes pain. He doesn't need to know I often think of dog and women when I cum!

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Posted by dtdab on May 6th 2005, 21:47

QUOTE (cecelia40 @ May 6 2005, 11:26 AM) You brave souls.  It took me 10 years to tell my husband I was bi, but he kinda knew.  We've now been married 20 years. I was pretty tipsy one night recently and told him about my dog sex.  We were surfing the net and found some zoo pics.  I asked to see them, judged his reaction.  He wasn't really into it, I could tell, but I told him anyway.  I said just once, oral, dog licking me.  It didn't seem to bother him, but....  So I never told him the truth.  In my 20's I'd often get oral from my dog.  I guess some things are best left alone.  So I've found this site, downloaded some pics, and masterbate.  Be careful!  Sometimes the truth will just hurt, and do no good.  You don't tell an overweight person they are fat either!  It just causes pain.  He doesn't need to know I often think of dog and women when I cum!  cecelia40 i would not give up trying to tell your husband. an example--if something is important to my wife it is important to me. i would do or try anything for her. maybe one day your husband will feel the same way. thanks to all that have replied. p.s melissamasochist good luck with your new baby.

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Posted by bubjones on May 6th 2005, 22:44

I was found out by two people. The first was my mother when I was young. I was having sex with our in heat and then pregnant female dog on my bed when mom wasn't around. Apparently I didn't get all of the dog hair ect. off my bedspread. She several times made the coment, I wonder who the pups will look like. I didn't realize untill later that she knew what I was doing. The second person that knew about my having sex with a k9 was my wife. She got quite upset and incested that we get rid of the ofending dog. As luck would have it I had been drinking the night I got caught. She blamed my indiscretion on the booz. That had nothing to do with with it ,but gove me an out. Both are now deceast, so the truth can be told. I have been a zooplile all of my life.

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Posted by knottynok on May 6th 2005, 23:22

I have told only one other person, Seems she would like to have a dog lick her. She don't know everything about me. Like how I like to take the knot and all the good stuff like the taste of thier cum. I guess I will never find out though because she was seperated and has since went back to her husband. I have been into zoo for several years, Like 30 of them. No one else ever knew. I sure was glad to find this form and I hope I can meat some new friends here. Knotty!!!

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Posted by sircarl on May 8th 2005, 0:25

I have not had the pleasure to participate in or view a real life expereince with a k9. I have thought about it a lot and would like such an experience. Simply cannot locate a couple or female willing to introduce me to the encounter.I would never tell my spouse or friends. They would not understand, though I do not believe they would shun me. I do believe what little romance my wife and I share would most likely come to an end. Not worth the risk.I will continue to share my feelings with those in this forum who care to listen. This is a great site and many wonderful people contribute. If anyone cares to share feelings I am happy to listen and share my thoughts.For most of us it is a lonely life we live.

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Posted by Shadowfax on May 8th 2005, 6:17

The only person I've told so far is my sister. She was very accepting and took it very well. She didn't understand what I meant at first. She was 19 at the time and had been heterosexually active. But she didn't know it was possible to have sex with animals. She's definitely not interested in it but accepts that I'm into it.I don't think I could tell my parents. I don't want them to feel like they failed in raising me. One time my dad read a story in the paper about a guy who got caught doing a mare and I've never heard him laugh like that. He even called his friends to tell them about it and they were laughing like crazy on the phone.As for anyone else, I'm not sure about telling. I have a good friend who I was thinking about telling.I really need to find a woman to marry who will accept zoophilia. I'm so envious of those of you who have these relations. I'm wondering how I will ever find anyone. I don't want to be alone for the rest of my life. The biggest problem is that I'm not very sexually attracted to women. I tried to date once but she sensed that wasn't interested in her that way and she broke up with me. I've been accused of being gay even but men are not at all attractive to me and I prefer being with women socially.But how will I ever find a woman who doesn't mind me not being sexually attracted to her?Shadowfax

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Posted by IL51 on May 10th 2005, 8:47

Very interesting thread. I am new here and mostly just read and enjoy knowing there are lots of others out there with the same interests. I brought a animal/woman paperback book home after we had been married a couple of years and my wife read it too. She said it didn't do anything for her. She didn't mind that I had it, she just didn't want to read them if I brought any more like it home. About a month later we got an adult male dog and brought it home. She asked where it was going to sleep and I said in our room. She started to say she wanted it to sleep elsewhere and then she got this look on her face and said " No, I can't do that. I just couldn't." We have not raised the subject since. That was almost 30 years ago and we are still together. I still enjoy reading animal stories on the net and the old books that I have accumulated over the years. I have been lucky enough to have had some animal experiences myself with dogs and horses and a couple of times with dogs and other women. It's about the only 'cheating' I do. But I am careful to make sure she does not find out. I have a new friend now who has expressed interest and we are moving towards finding her a first animal partner. I will stay married and find outlets elsewhere. Thanks.

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Posted by Lugarou on May 13th 2005, 4:21

Time and communication. Shadowfax, don't give up! It took me 20+ years to find tolerance. Now my GF is getting warmer to the idea of watching me and discussion of fantasies has had its influence too. She is beginning to think that she might be willing to play for me and to satisfy my fantasies. And this from someone who was terrified of dogs just 1 year ago.

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Posted by joy47 on May 22nd 2005, 8:12

I am into zoo about 7 years after my hub passed away....i told my daughter and step son about it ...and they are very understanding and support...and so far some of my gfs.....I think the improtant thing is need to know who u can talk too

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Posted by XploreMe on May 27th 2005, 0:04

I am sooooooo glad that someone started this topic. I am actually surfing this site and joined because of my lover. He declared himself a zoo to me and I think I took it rather badly at first. I tried to analyze it so that I could understand it and it ended up hurting him. We have since had several talks and seem to be ironing things out so that we can have a better understanding of one another. He told me to look at this site because it may answer some of my questions. I have joined (unkown to him) and now find this site to be very erotic and sensual. I spend a great deal of time discovering things about myself because he blew off the my door of prudity. I haven't told him yet how I feel about these wonderful people here but I know that once i have found my own sexual balance that we will be alright. I don't want him to think I did this for him... I'm doing this for ME. So, If you are worried that people can't handle this part of you... Maybe you are with the wrong person. I can't judge but I refuse to judge other people because I don't understand. It is ignorance. I have found out some pretty special things about how wonderful beasies are... maybe deep down inside we all are.Don't give up. Just find the right time and place in a relationship to show others your beauty.

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Posted by Junas on May 27th 2005, 0:41

I am not that active in Animal Sex, just a littl Playing now and than. And i have no Girlfriend yet. So there is not much to tell. I dont think i would tell it to much people but i hope someday i find a gf i can share this fantasys.

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Posted by jetman on May 30th 2005, 7:48

I dont know how they feel. its just me. Looking for good shots,real penetration, like from below . as if on a glass table, knots and all, espec ailly dogs.

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Posted by wsjworldwide on June 8th 2005, 22:26

My partner thinks it's a crazy idea and that I wouldn't really do it. Funny thing is, given the right circumstances, I really believe I would and have wanted to for a long time! A lot of guys I mention it to are hot for it, too, but no one seems to have a male dog in all of New York City. I'd be cool with video or still pictures being taken from any angle, group scenes, more! Can anyone help me????

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Posted by Conchobhar on June 9th 2005, 7:01

Oddly enough When I was a closet fag, I used to talk about it in a joking way all the time. Some people thought it was a joke, others accepted it at face value and thought it was truly bent. There was one person who more or less accepted it.The only person that I told about it and gave them the Gods honest truth about it was my best freind, and he confessed to having similar experiences. Though he didn't anymore. It may seem strange that I could so openly talk about this, and not be honest about being gay but at the same time, the objective of it all was to F people off, and for the most part it worked quite well

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Posted by Tigcat on June 9th 2005, 22:44

i thought about this alot when i was a teenager but it wasn't until i was in my early twenties that i found out what i was fantasing about was actually possible, and i have been into it every since. i never told my first two husbands about this as i already knew that they would not accept it since they were so very vanilla minded. But all the men and women in my life since then have been told since it is a strong interest for me and so far all have accepted and some have even wanted to participate as well. My current other half if turned on my helping me and watching. Man, i guess i am quite lucky. None of my family knows about this...well they no nothing about my sexual lifestyle as none of it is mainsteam anyways and they would NOT accept it at all...so why tell them. In this what they don't know won't hurt them.

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Posted by ck9 on June 10th 2005, 13:32

This is a VERY interesting thread and I have read it atleast twice... I told mrs about my "farm-fun" even before we married [I think as we are going on 45 years] ya tend to forget at my age LOL..Several years ago she enjoyed some "pet-fun" too but all of a sudden changed her mind about it and now she hates my Zoo/beastie "hobby"..If she knew how much time I spend at the zoo sites,I'm not sure what she would do and I don't want to find out.. I suspect mom guessed what I was doing as a teen as once she asked about a stain in my under cloths..Of course I played dumb [easy for me]..I can't recall my folks ever talking about sex to me.. I mentioned this in another thread and didn't get any responce as I doubt there is a concrete answer.. I'd love to find an active or curious local female but how in the heck do you approach them about this subject??????? Anyone for e-chat ? chuckv8@webtv.net Put beastie in subject as I don't open spam thanks

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Posted by k92curious on June 15th 2005, 3:04

This a really wonderful thread. Thank you, dtdab, for starting it :-* I am one of the fortunate people - my fiance' is VERY understanding and openminded. We can honestly talk about ANYTHING. At first he was a little reserved, but very supportive. The more we talked the more interested he became. He can't wait to watch me get taken by a k9, because he wants to do me afterwards I've told his about this site and the great people I have met on here. Occasionally he gets on here himself and looks around. This has definitely had a positive impact on our relationship. Thanks again

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Posted by SunFlower23 on June 15th 2005, 3:39

I've lived this lifestyle for just over 9 years now and in all that time I have only told 2 people (ex-gf & my current partner). There is no way that I would ever bring this up with my family (or relatives for that matter). It took me several years to approach my parents and inform them that I was bisexual - that didn't go off too well. They eventually were accepting of it, but it did take a while. Knowing how well (NOT) they took that, I can just imagine what they'd say (after the look of horror disappeared off their faces ) if they knew I was tri-sexual(?) I have met a couple close friends over the internet whom I have told. One was receptive to it and the other tolerates the idea but does not discuss it and rather just imagines it doesn't happen. As a few others have posted, I too felt extremely alone and very self conscious before life on the internet. Chatting with people on IRC and such helped me realize that I was not alone (90% of them were just guys lying and wanting to get off at the idea - but there were some honest souls )When I do get married I plan to let my future life partner know up exactly who I am (not after a few dates - maybe after a yr or so... until I know he's serious about a commitment). This is my life. This is who I am. And my dog is very much a part of it. Huggles

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Posted by rottluver on June 15th 2005, 5:25

I have been a zoo all my life and both parents died before I could get the nerve to tell them.I have been in a few relationships but they always ended due to a lack of interest on my part,as I finaly realized that I am zoo-exclusive.I finaly grew tired of the lies and the hiding of who I realy am so I told a long time freind of about ten years now and all he said was"I know".Both he and his wife had figured it out a long time ago!Good thing I was hiding it from everyone!My sister was the one I was worried about cause she is a very religious person and I have already fallen out of favor with her whole religion.She actualy took it very well!She said that now a lot of what I had said and done in the past finaly makes sense,and even had some very personal questions about my "first time"and so on.Although she said it does not interest her as sex is not very important to her and she has a very thick line drawn on what she will and will not do.So one never realy knows what to expect I guess.At least I no longer live in the shadows around my freinds and family.Thanks in whole to this forum opening up a world to me I never thaught exsisted,that there are so many of us out there.

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Posted by dtdab on June 15th 2005, 8:15

boy do i like this thread........thank you for your stories..i would like to add i think it is important to be as honest as you can with your spouse or your companion..if it is important to you say something, most people will hear you out and give you there opinion on what they think....i think we can all just hope that we can find someone that will except us for how we are and maybe even find enjoyment themselves in particapating in our interests....just remember if you are new to this and you are trying get your loved one to try it persuasion is always better than force

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Posted by PrettyKitty on June 21st 2005, 19:28

Well, I have to say that I've always been curious about what it would be like, but I never told anyone. I wasnt going to tell my husband either, thinking he would be upset and hurt. Welllll , I just should of went ahead and told him. After six years of being married to the most wonderful man I know, I found him in our room with our dog. Needless to say , I was stunned (not in a bad way) He was so embarassed, he thought I would leave him LOL I finally got him to admit to what he was doing before I told him about my interest as well. From then on our lives have just gotten better and better

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Posted by skin2 on June 21st 2005, 20:22

From joining this forum i have sppoken to several people and even meat 1 person who is into mares so i say just hang in and keepon going till you meat someone just look at how many of us are hear

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Posted by hozzman on June 21st 2005, 20:39

I've been a zoo my whole life. I live with a zoo and have a few friends who are zoos as well. My mom is the only one in my family who knows. She is not keen on the idea, but accepts me for who I am. My dad would dissown me if he ever found out.

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Posted by dtdab on July 23rd 2005, 3:19

(bump)i thought some of the newer members would like these stories.

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Posted by bindis on July 27th 2005, 21:19

Thank you dtdab for starting this thread. I have always been interested in some aspects of animal sex, that is to say the licking. I was fortunate enough to have a dog that was willing to please me in this way. I was totally unaware that other types of sex with animals existed until I saw a TV documentary. I was astounded to know that women actually got penetrated by dogs and this really got me thinking. although I haven't had that pleasure yet, I would really love to try. I confessed my deeds and desires to 3 online male friends and they were all very interested and supportive. One of these online friends went on to become my lover for 2 years and we discussed the possibility of a dog joining us for a threesome but that never materialised. I finally got the courage to tell my sister as well and who'd have ever guessed? She confessed to having had my dog perform oral pleasure on her too . Guess sometimes it really does run in the family.

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Posted by beastycoupleincali on July 27th 2005, 22:37

I told my ex-wife 6 months before we ended our marriage after almost 11 years...She didn't act upset when I told her but she did say she didn't want any part of it...Our marriage had been rough to begin with and we'd tried to keep it together right to the very end...When I told my fiance` about it; we'd met online (yahoo messenger) and been talking for about 3 weeks...This particular night I decided to come clean and tell her...There was only one other person who knew I was into it which was my best friend from many years...He knew I was active and didn't care as both of us have shared many dark secrets and experiences together...Anyways...I came out and told her...She didn't type anything to me for about 3-5 mins...I figured oh man...She's disgusted and I've scared her away...On the contrary...She types and says she had always been curious but never had brought it up to anyone...So I shared some stories and a few pics I had acquired from places online...And then she got more into it after that...We've been together now for almost 3 years and are very satisfied and happy...We love our relationship and really do hope there's others out there that have the same open-minded and trusting relationship that we have...My mom/dad and one of my two sisters know "we're" actives...They don't think anything bad of us...It's what we're into and how we keep our relationship healthy...It's really hard to be open and honest about something such as this...But it's helped us grow and helped our relationship into one of the strongest ones we could ever ask for...

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Posted by beastycouplencali on July 27th 2005, 22:40

I couldn't have said it better myself....

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Posted by loveyababe on July 28th 2005, 5:22

This is truly an awesome story...My spouse and I have been together for 18 yrs and two kids later...he let me in... this area was important to him, I would like to say it was some drastic thing ...It wasn't..We have know each other for so long and really like each other that it was a growing situatition for both......... however, freinds and family........they are who and what they are...we would never go outside ourselves here and share...it would not be a happy sharingdtdab...I thanked you about maybe, 4 to 6 mon. ago......and I thank you agin.......this was the thread that hooked me to the the board....I had been lookin under my spouse and it made me have my own voice....Ther are a numbere of people here who make me want to come back everyday

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Posted by Natureboy on July 28th 2005, 8:38

Only 1 person knows and thats my wife. When i told her 3 yrs ago she was then then and finally . Fortunantly she accepted it and became part of it however she has no understanding of the Love behind it. To her its just an act she enjoys , o well ya cant have everything.

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Posted by dtdab on July 28th 2005, 22:52

QUOTE (loveyababe @ Jul 27 2005, 09:22 PM) This is truly an awesome story...My spouse and I have been together for 18 yrs and two kids later...he let me in... this area was important to him, I would like to say it was some drastic thing ...It wasn't..We have know each other for so long and really like each other that it was a growing situatition for both......... however, freinds and family........they are who and what they are...we would never go outside ourselves here and share...it would not be a happy sharingdtdab...I thanked you about maybe, 4 to 6 mon. ago......and I thank you agin.......this was the thread that hooked me to the the board....I had been lookin under my spouse and it made me have my own voice....Ther are a numbere of people here who make me want to come back everyday wow loveyababe you always say the nicest things...your comments make me happy...thanks again also thank you bindis / beastycoupleincali / Natureboy for sharing your stories with us.....good stuff.

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Posted by jujo1ukalpha on July 29th 2005, 0:56

I'm lucky to have the support of my hubby. It is something we have enjoyed from before we were married and is one of the reasons we married in 1972. We are lucky to have some good friends who have become active through us talking quite candidly with them.My mother was active so it was something we shared untill her death.

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Posted by Feral on August 9th 2005, 5:01

no one else (besides here) knows. I would like to not have to hide my life, but I would not want to push anyone away either.

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Posted by dtdab on August 10th 2005, 7:09

i am not ashamed of myself and i enjoy what i do...i have to be honest i do not share my interests with anyone except my wife...i thank her for having patience with me...(together we stand together we fall)...i,ve kept it a seceret from even my closest friends..i am a very shy person and i think if they did find out i would have to move away because i could not face them again...even thou me and my wife have great sex and she is starting to like this a lot more i think deep down she is still is offended by it and has never really excepted it and only does it for me...i hope it does not ruin our marriage and one day she can forgive me for the way i am......i hope some members have learned from this............i would like to thank all that have shared there stories...this will be my last post to this thread.

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Posted by Wagglestaff on August 10th 2005, 18:15

dtdab - you are a hero for starting this thread. It is very difficult, more so for women I think, to try to explain to your partner just how you feel about animals. I am very fortunate in having married a lady who, whilst she has no interest herself, is very understanding and easy going.It is such a shame that there is so much prejudice and ignorance in the world. I have to admit that being a pagan, with a firm belief that all living creatures have souls, helps me to understand myself.

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Posted by cohort on May 10th 2006, 4:42

Neat thread and perhaps needs to be bumped.

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Posted by kressoon on March 28th 2007, 3:07

I am new to this forum, just surfing, looking at pics, etc. I am married, 25 yrs, and would like to see my wife do a dog. We have a fixed one, he is eager, but the wife less so. She did try a few years back when the kids were smaller, but now she is not too keen. I read in one of the earlier posts how one member felt his whole life would pass him by. Boy, did that ever hit a spot with me. It is exactly what I feel. I am not going to force my wife, but I know my sex life will never be truly fulfilled until I enjoy dogsex thru my partner, do her after the dog. ButI fear that I may never get that dream to become a reality. This is a wonderful threads, thanks for allowing me the opportunity to get this off my hairy chest.

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Posted by stuntmanjbc on March 28th 2007, 3:14

just I know

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Posted by lab girl 83 on March 28th 2007, 3:16

Online, a few friends know...Mind you , i have only really been into this for a few months, if that. At first, I was about it..but it grew on me really quick. One RT ex knows about it and was thrilled to learn that i was open to it all. (no pun intended)I am really really really hesitant to tell people about it RT as this town is way too small.

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Posted by Bi_k9guy on March 28th 2007, 3:25

I told my husband within weeks of meeting him, there was no way I wanted any secrets in our relationship. He was extremely understanding and told me there was nothing that I could say or do that would make him love me any less.From then I've told my family and my close friends, which they've all been cool about it as they did kind of expect it. Sometimes I don't know why they put up with me, but hey, it's all good now.I may not go around telling people about it, however if the subject somehow comes up in conversation, I'm not going to hide the fact I find animals sexually attractive... I personally can't bring myself to lie about it.

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Posted by cheeseyness on March 28th 2007, 4:07

About a week ago I told my fiance. I was very careful, and did a little reasearch to see if he was at all receptive, by asking him if he'd ever looked at beastiality. Turns out he was ok with the idea, even interested. He's trying to help me in getting a dog and making sure I'm safe.Before you come out and tell someone, try getting them into a situation where you confess a few secrets and see if they have ever or do have the interest. IF they say "ew gross!" best not to tell them. But who knows! They just might be into it. IF you're really close with them, I reccomend the honesty.

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Posted by EnigmaticVixen on March 28th 2007, 5:41

I told my ex about my interests and activities with animals and he was actually very interested in seeing me do it, but other things pushed us apart(him hitting me was at the top of that list) so he never was able to be involved. The last couple friends I've had, people I really counted as friends, have known. But that tends to happen when you meet them on a forum like this or find out after meeting them that they have an account here. Another very close friend/future roommate of mine isn't on this forum but he knows about my interests and the things I've done with animals, he fullys accepts that part of me and actually wants to help me get a dog for the household to love and train after enough time has passed. I don't plan to ever tell the rest of my family, psycho-christian youth pastor parents and an uptight sister just don't sound likely to accept it, and it doesn't bother me to not tell them. I left home because they couldn't accept basic things about who I am, much less anything 'odd'. So there's no trust there anyway. Anyone in my life that I'm ever romantic with will know from the start what my interests are though if they've gained my trust. Even if it means they walk away, I plan to be open with those that I trust.

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Posted by BeastZeke on March 29th 2007, 6:24

I was a sheltered child. I never even thought about anything sexual or sensual, until I was in my late teens. Of course, every boy/man, has some interest once they start noticing that the girls are different than they are, and I guess, the mysterious way that girls and boys differ, and are treated, has to stir some interest too.I was in my twenties when I first had much of any thoughts on the possibility that human animals and 'lower' animals could do anything together in that area. My wife and I were newly married then, and we sometimes saw the neighbors dogs going at it. She would get very affectionate suddenly, and we even shared fantacies of what it would be like to participate. We shared those feeling freely then, and I think it helped us to feel closer to each other, to have something so 'private' between us. Well, that was like 35 years ago, and recently my wife got on this computer and found my cache of downloads. Now she has had some medical problems, and the prescriptions that she takes, do have the side effects of decreasing her libido. Although she hasn't threatened to kill me for viewing this material, she has threatened to murder my computer several times, and she probably would, if it wasn't too expensive for that kind of thing. I'm not sure if she told our daughter, or if my daughter got on my computer and found them herself (she's 32, and was back living at home for a while recently), but my daughter seems to know all about my viewing habits too, and doesn't seem to be too bothered by it. My 35 year old son has more of a problem with it and has repeatedly warned me to delete everything before anyone else finds my stuff and uses it against me. I couldn't tell my non-immediate family (brother, sisters, dad) as they are mostly strict Catholics and would be even more disappointed in me than they already seem to be (I'm the black sheep of the family).So I am very careful as to who I speak with in regards to any of this, and it will be a very warm day at the north pole before most of my other friends / aquaintances or anyone else, gets the information.

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Posted by SavageHenry on March 29th 2007, 7:09

You're all the first people I've told! No, just kidding. I haven't told anybody except my psychiatrist and some woman I spoke to online years ago. And in my teens I would worry a lot about how I would break it to my wife in the future. Now I wonder where I can find a woman who is a zoo also with whom I can share that joy with. I have to say that the past 10 years, from the time I realized I was a zoophile to now, have been difficult. I'm only beginning to accept that it's a part of me and always will be. And I'm hoping this site and the friends I make here can help me with that.

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Posted by mack500 on March 29th 2007, 22:19

A good friend of mine knows and I have tested the waters so to speek with my girlfriend. My parents don't know other than a picture came up on my screen saver once, but they just passed it of as a picture I shouldn't have on my screen saver.And there is every one on here, its kinda a safe haven for us. Untill I joined here I though I was weird but now I am around other people who share a comen intruest.

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Posted by rrarr on March 29th 2007, 22:43

No one knows... Would love to someday have a husband into this stuff.. but ive got time.

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Posted by satyrboy on March 29th 2007, 22:59

Taking volunteers, rrarr? A couple of my friends know - both of them are kinky enough that zoo stuff doesn't phase them in the slightest. Never told my family, though I think they'd be relatively understanding about it (they tend to be pretty laid back about sexual things). The biggest trouble was my girlfriend - turned out she was also curious about it and interested in it (though much less than me), and I'm not sure what effect it had on us. I told her during a time in which we briefly split up, and we're still trying to recover from that. At first, it seems that in general, our shared zoo interest brought us together more, and we'd happily screw while watching zoo movies. But lately she's apparently had second thoughts, said it still turns her on, but she's not so sure it's moral...so we're going to have to talk about that, alas. If she decides it's immoral, I think it cannot fail to drive a wedge between us, because it is very important to me, and I don't think she'll be able to accept me being into something she can't accept...I think it will make her feel threatened. If she decides it's ok, then I have to see how willing she is to take it beyond the fantasy stage.

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Posted by silkythighs on March 30th 2007, 1:03

I was involved with my Lab before I met my hubby. Once things got really serious between us, I decided it was best to come clean about my relationship with my Lab. Luckily he didn't freak out or anything. he was curious about it. Asked a lot of questions, but soon wanted to watch. He used to watch a lot initially, then less and less as time went on. Eventually he just accepted my k9 relationships as a part of our marriage. I was very lucky in this regard.

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Posted by rrarr on March 30th 2007, 1:26

QUOTE (satyrboy @ Mar 29 2007, 09:59 PM) Taking volunteers, rrarr? hehe. I'm looking selectively. not wanting to get married until atleast I finish my bachelor's.. if i did get married during vet school I wouldn't want kids till after that.like I said, I've got time.

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Posted by rus80 on March 30th 2007, 3:31

Kids oh you mean foals.Ok I have this figured out now..Foals are funKids where do they come from?Er I do not want to knowR

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Posted by big_spotted_dog on June 15th 2007, 4:58

It seems like something as heavy as coming out of the... well barn i suppose, would be best suited to those closest to you. And I don't necessarily mean family. I sometimes feel more able to share things with friends that I would NEVER tell my parents.

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Posted by Trissdv on June 15th 2007, 7:57

I'd never tell my family, there is no way in the world I would do that. I've never really had a girlfriend that I could share the interest with much. There have been a few that knew it about me, and expressed curiousity themselves, but would likely never do it.

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Posted by mountmeee on June 16th 2007, 12:08

I am so lucky, my partner is also my soulmate, He is extreemly sexual and likes all kinds of things... in the five years we have been together... we have both been always able to talk about what turns us on... and so my liking for large male dogs has never been a problem and it drives us both wild.... nobody else knows but that's fine as it adds to that naughty but nice element...and it is sooooo nice!!!!!

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Posted by Litldolphn on June 16th 2007, 20:53

i told my bestest friend, he was very accepting of it. i think i even got him curious about it..lol. so far so good. as for my Boyfriend uh.. not yetm im not ready to tell him. when i feel ready it'l come out.. as for family.. nope sprry that is a subject im not getting into

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Posted by mikehunt2000 on June 16th 2007, 21:03

This is something that has intersted me since I ws very young. I do not have the never to share it with anyone else yet though

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Posted by hiyall on June 17th 2007, 4:41

wow -- I would have never thought your significant other would ever be opposed to what turns you on -- my hubby and I started dating when I was 15 -- (almost 17 years ago) and our sex life has always been on the exciting side - we have had some k-9 experince with oral on me - and occasionally on him - and I would love to be mounted one day - I just cant understand how your mate would be so upset about something that would bring you so much joy...

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Posted by lustyone on June 17th 2007, 5:06

I made the mistake of bring up my interest in a three way MMF , or a FFM one time, that was a mistake. I hate to think what kind of sulk he's go into if I told him about this kink.What I don't get is that he likes to crossdress, and while it does nothing for me, I have no problem with him indulging in it.Of course his kink doesn't involve ing with anybody else.No competition.

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Posted by Elvime on June 17th 2007, 5:29

I have been dating my girlfriend for about 5 months now and i told her about this last month. She seemed a little shaky but yet a little interested, she hasn't left me and wasn't angry. Might get a chance to get her involved with my dog at some point, but as long as she isnt upset im happy.

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Posted by Curious_Bi on June 17th 2007, 9:37

I haven't told anyone as of yet. I think my mom would be shocked at first, but ok with it in the end. Thing is, I know she would tell my prudish sister, who would put me down for it, and tell everyone!! BUT it's ok for her to have had sex with our father I think I could tell 2 dear friends of mine, one calls himself a "dawg" lol, and the other is my best friend, who tries everything at least once. She knows I am bi sexual, and that I was attracted to her, so I think she could handle this too.As for the love of my life, I am trying to think of a way to break it to him. We don't keep secrets, he knows i am bi sexual, and we have done the M-M-F threesome. We are looking for the other yet though. He is kewl with me being bi sexual, and I am helping to fullfill his fantasties at the same time. I think, I will bring it up as a "what will we try next" joke and see where we go from there. He is very open minded. Maybe we can explore it together!! I will let you know how it goes!!

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Posted by tazman99 on June 17th 2007, 16:49

QUOTE (lustyone @ Jun 16 2007, 11:06 PM) I made the mistake of bring up my interest in a three way MMF , or a FFM one time, that was a mistake. I hate to think what kind of sulk he's go into if I told him about this kink.What I don't get is that he likes to crossdress, and while it does nothing for me, I have no problem with him indulging in it.Of course his kink doesn't involve ing with anybody else.No competition. That I will never understand about most men in general. In a loving "secure" relationship, with open communication, you should be able to express desires without fear of ridicule~ To feel free to explore ones sexuality and deign your partners is a very self centered person, Hmm~ I knew one like that very well~ Good luck to you in the future~

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