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Well, I never in a million years thought I'd be the guy in this position, but... I am.I'm dating a gal I love very much. The sex is great... my only complaint is that I can't keep up with my gal. I have a sleep disorder, which means that most of the time I'm very, very tired. When I have the energy, I give my gal the screaming orgasms from hell but when I'm exhausted, I can't always "rise" to the occasion. I'm only 34, so it's not like I'm some million-year-old guy hoping for a "Viagra miracle." I'm working with my doctor, and hopefully eventually the sleep problem will be resolved, but sometimes I worry that I don't give my girl enough lovin'. I've bought some marvelous "toys" for us to share, but there's nothing like the real thing.Which is where beastiality comes in. We both love animals, but until recently I've been the only one who's expressed an interest in animals sexually. I'm not particularly interested in having sex with an animal, but I'm fascinated with the idea of my lady enjoying our pet dog. My woman knows about my interest, and we'd sort of "agreed to disagree" on the topic. She doesn't get uptight about it, and I don't bother her about it.But lately, she's been acting more and more... well, willing.Yesterday, we went out to dinner together (we live separately) and as we were coming out of the restaurant, we saw the most beautiful dog. He (it was clearly a he, as I'll explain in a moment) was some kind of mix of a golden retriever and a bigger dog, as he had the gorgeous, soft golden coat of a golden, but he was a BIG dog. He was very friendly, and sniffed and licked our hands as we talked to him.However, when my girlfriend went to pet him, he sniffed her a bit and then started to "hop up" -- his intentions were pretty clear. My gal laughed and pushed him off, and we left. As we were walking back to the car, she said something about "your dream almost just came true" and I just chuckled -- I know better than to push her.She's been curious about dog sex, in particular, for a while. She has a lot of hygienic (sp?) concerns. I told her that in some ways, dogs are safer than humans. She's not going to catch an STD from him, and the bits of him that she might interact with (tongue, penis, semen) are probably at LEAST as clean as a human's. She's not interested AT ALL in performing oral on a dog, but I keep trying to hint to her that nobody's forcing her to. And she doesn't like the videos where the women FORCE the dog to have sex with them by using its penis like a dildo. I couldn't agree more; I think that's tantamount to animal abuse. The funny thing is that we agree in more things that we disagree in. The only big area of disagreement is in the act itself; she's just stated that she's not interested.However... we got to talking about it today, and she said that she's "been curious" for a while. I told her that I'd had a fantasy about her and the dog last night (I was just being honest, and she brought the topic up), and she was *very* interested in that fantasy. We were talking over email (carefully, because I know other people read your email) from work, so we couldn't get into much depth (we were talking about our "friend" at the restaurant yesterday, not saying the dog, etc.) but she seemed kind of... turned on. By the thought of it, or by my own arousal, I don't know.The clencher, however, was when we agreed to drop the subject for now (I was/am very paranoid about discussing stuff this personal over email, and I don't, don't DON'T want to make her feel like I'm "pushing" her). I told her about my fantasy and said that "well, I know that it's just a fantasy, and I don't want to push you -- but, you asked." And her response was, "well, I would have consented with that dog yesterday; he was pretty!"I was just blown away. I get the feeling that she's on the *verge* of wanting to experiment, she just needs gentle guidance. But I don't want to push her!I know she's still concerned about cleanliness, so any advice you have on that would be welcome. I think she finally understands that she wouldn't be "required" to do anything (ie, perform oral on the dog) that she doesn't want to do -- my fantasy is to see HER *enjoying* herself with a dog, not see her "putting up with" something because she thinks it'll make me happy.She's also expressed concern several times that a dog might hurt her; it wouldn't be concerned about her pain or pleasure, and would just perform according to instinct. She worries about not being able to tell it to stop, and so on. I think that if I reassure her that I'd be there, and make sure to assert myself as the "alpha male" (so that the dog WOULD stop if I insisted) she'd be a bit more relaxed about it. As to pleasure, I think I should try to show her that it's a mixed bag. When I fuck her, I'm just "acting on instinct" too, but she gets lots of orgasms. So the mere fact that a male is following his instincts doesn't mean it can't be pleasurable for the female.I've made it clear that I have no intention of being *replaced* by the dog. I think like every male in this situation, I have brief worries that she'd like the dog more than me, but when I consider it rationally, I doubt it. I still have a brain that the dog can't compete with, and while I may not be able to knot up, I have a pretty damn big penis (I'm not meaning to brag; however, the only dogs that I've seen in the videos that are bigger than me are the Danes, and I don't think we're considering a dog THAT big!). So, I don't think that I'd "lose her" to a dog -- and if I did, that would be something to know, wouldn't it? I mean, if she cared so little for me that she'd replace me with a nonhuman lover, well, that would show me that our relationship was a bit less stable than I'd hoped.So, any tips -- beyond the obvious; ie, go slow, be respectful, communicate -- would be very welcome. I do love this gal very much, and I value the relationship with her far more than I value fulfilling some fantasy. But if I could have both, I'd be a happy, happy, happy man.Thoughts? Comments?
QUOTE So, any tips -- beyond the obvious; ie, go slow, be respectful, communicate -- would be very welcome.I know you're not zooming past the obvious things as unimportant... but some of the things that you pass off as being the obvious ones are really the MOST important ones to keep in mind throughout. The fact that you are thinking so far down the road about how this might effect your relationship, as well as what the impact to you and your girlfriend would be mentally and emotionally - well, that tells me that you have absolutely all the right motivations and intentions in order to share and support your fantasy.The key to ANY sort of good intimacy with your mate is your trust and confidence in each other - this is PARTICULARLY true for women. And if there's one thing that goes a long way towards building those things, it's "Communication, communication, communication..." Your girlfriend wants a lot of things - including to know how you feel about this, how you think you'll feel about her during and after this, how it will make her feel, what your perceptions of her now are, how strong the relationship is, etc. Look stuff up together - talk about it... Gather as much knowledge as you can together (after all, you don't want to be her sole source of information about this). Heck - she might even need to feel as though you are providing an example and a role model for how to incorporate pet loving into your relationship as a supporting and complimentary part of your romance! So, no matter whether you want to go forward with this as individuals or as a couple, work together to learn and satisfy your individual needs for knowledge with great communication. Get into a position where you BOTH can openly and honestly tell her how each of you feel about the subject... You obviously don't have to jump right into it and spill your individual desires out on the table like such large issues that you each have to immediately learn to deal with... but communicating through e-mail isn't the same as talking about it. Try thinking of the communication and research as foreplay. And the more excited you each get through foreplay, think about how interested you are both going to be to get to the next step.Of course, there are also some wonderful "How-to's" online (including a pretty decent one right here on B-F) that will go a long way to preparing both of you for what to expect, as well as simply prepping you to take the next step (I remember a time when I was awfully aroused just by reading the How To's) Don't forget to continue to bolster her knowledge and desire with good solid information, stories, pictures and videos. Show her the good and exciting culture of this choice. And, as long as you're at it, make sure you're not "just giving her material to review", show her things YOU like and tell her exactly why you like them. The fact that YOU like it is perhaps very central to her interest. And, besides, it's educational too. She gets the sense that many people like this sort of lifestyle, and she gets to learns some of the ins-and-outs of actual petloving this way. (You may even find that you girlfriend simply wants to talk a little bit longer before rolling around with a four legged friend). Good luck, Atomx... but I don't think you'll need much of that. You and your girlfriend are moving to a new level of communication and intimacy - that's luckier than most.-P_L
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