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I havn't heard anything from anywhere else; but my dad swears that when he was a kid he remember someone on their farm mating a sheep and that the sheep "gave birth" although it wasnt anywhere near developed, let alone alive. He says that its because a sheeps DNA is very close to humans...anyone else ever heard of this happening or of this happening with other species and humans? BTW his mom was a biology prof. so im assuming he has some valid sources, hehe.Who knows, anthromorphics may be closer than anyone realizes...(i hope )
ummmmm... Due to genetics and chromosomes this is absolutely, guaranteed, 100% impossible.
Ever hear of the Rh blood factor? If the human mother and the human child have different blood factors, the child and mother may die. That's how close the match has to be.
in a short and clear answerno animal can get pregnant by a human
The biggest impediment to humans having children with sheep, dogs, horses or any other animal is genetic. All of those species have different numbers of chromosomes. The big deal is that a set of these from each parent has to line up for the resulting zygote divide. Since there cannot be cell division, there cannot be an embryo. Now if you wanted to experiment with monkeys, some of which share 98% of our genes, I might be more inclined to believe an offspring there. (not really)
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no its not poss even thou some of the weekly wierd news paper always say there a sheep boy or dog boy or pig etc it aint possible genticllybut if one lives in the country one will hear about it ya know those urban lengendsa shepp goat pig etc gave birth to some horney farm hands lust)))))))like some one else said it might!!??????? be remotely poss wiht some momkeysbut not likely(i vonenteer as a test subject))))))HB58
QUOTE (HairBear58 @ Jul 20 2004, 09:22 PM) like some one else said it might!!??????? be remotely poss wiht some momkeysbut not likely(i vonenteer as a test subject)))))) Not even with monkeys, even our closest relatives bobobos and chimps (pan paniscus & pan troglodytes) we can't breed with and we share 99.6% of the same active genomes with these species.Much as I'd like a centaur it just isn't going to happen... however, no harm in keeping trying to sire one is there
strange but true fact hereanimals that are CREATED with human genes mixed in so we can have there organs for transplants have there chromosome levels increased to such a high amount that its almost possible for those animals to get pregnant by a humanbut theres a 99.9% chance of failingso out of 100 theres a 1% chance of one animal being made pregnant by a human.......so line up 100 geneticly altered cheetahs and i'll give it ma damn best try ............. is it me or are i dying to hump a cheetah so bad i might break into a zoo and die humping one lol
well in one of my phases I was obsesed with learning biology. this is a tricky one as there is a 1 in a 1000,000,000,000 chance and the fetus would live less then a week, so there is a .5 % chance out of a 1000 of it hapenning but like others have said Genetics pervent it, but even befor that there are safe guards on the egg and sperm them selves. there have been some documented cases of a stallion impregnating a cow, and the result actualy lived for about a minute out side the womb even Nature screws up ocassionaly
As everyone else has said, it comes down to genetics. Its like putting a square block into a round hole, it just wont fit!!So you cant get a human - sheep, pig, horse or what ever hybrid.Though it certainly could explain some people I know!
did y'all know about the experements that some smart asses DID fertilize a cow egg with human sperm .... they let it gro for 4 weeks before they destroyed it .........but they did note that it WAS growing normalyweither if it grew into a calf or a human or a hybrid they dont know
This all sounds great, but it's just fantasy without proof. I've seen similar animal/human babies on Jerry Springer.
oh come on now.....everyone knows that we all sprouted from alian DNA... how can alian dna mesh with animals....its impossible.hehebut i do try and impregnate alot of animals just to keep trying
jerry springer lied to us..............damnit an i was about to go an try
QUOTE (chmarr @ Jul 24 2004, 06:35 PM) jerry springer lied to us..............damnit an i was about to go an try Oh like you haven't already
re: the alien gene theory Well it could be because they created all life on earth which would explain the massive replication of similar dna strands in diverse species and the fact we have a large genetic match to some unlikely animals.heh or it could be because there are only a very limmited set of chemicals in dna construction and therefore possible simple combinations are bound to be widely replicated which is much more likely .incase i am taken seriously this IS intended to be a joke (the aliens part)
QUOTE (seeker @ Jul 25 2004, 04:00 PM) re: the alien gene theory Well it could be because they created all life on earth which would explain the massive replication of similar dna strands in diverse species and the fact we have a large genetic match to some unlikely animals.heh or it could be because there are only a very limmited set of chemicals in dna construction and therefore possible simple combinations are bound to be widely replicated which is much more likely .incase i am taken seriously this IS intended to be a joke (the aliens part) I was going to post this without adding details, but since it might be taken the wrong way. This is a joke, alright? Not intended to hurt, but to make people laugh. I know that seeker knows that I'm just joking like him. This is what I would have posted as a joke:Maybe aliens took your brain out too
naaa......its all alian dna.......not just random chanceotherwise, how can so many people se so dumb. it cant be just by chance. hehe
No centare foals yet looking like me. But I will keep trying.
AFAIK, there has never, in the history of time, been a human-nonhuman baby born -- sickly, not sickly, whatever definitions you want to use.That sounds like as close to 0% as you're going to get. Can't happen. The genes just ain't right -- even with monkeys.Incidentally, humans have less chromosomes than the other simians, as far as I know (46 compared to 48). It's not just the number of chromosomes that matters, but what information they contain.
Did anyone see that special on the discovery Channel about the Chimanzee...human and Chimpanzee DNA crossed....it wouldnt surprise me if we were able to make half humans soon...it is just a question of lineing up the DNA correctly....Of course these creatures would be sterile so there is no chance of making them into a race..kinda like the Ligers....lion/tigers
I have often thought about this. I believe it may one day soon be possible either through use of drugs that stop rejection of the none species sperm similar to anti rejection drugs used for organ transpants or in a test tube using recombinant dna and gene splicing. Heck they do the gene splicing now putting human dna in pigs and other animals for the production of hormones used for the treatment of desease. It is just a matter of time till we will be putting certain animal genes into humans to develope traits we may want. How about having the dogs sense of smell or some other animals abilities to see in varing light spectrums or hear sound at a much higher fequency. I see lots of possibility for the human of tommorow to be super men and women due to the incorporation of genes from the animal kingdom into our own gene pool.Also legend has it in the past there were creatures with both human and animal traits. Most legend has a basis in truth so given the right set of circumstances who knows. Why the religious taboos otherwise. Me I would love to stud the mare that would give birth to a centar.Rich
QUOTE (dog_rj @ Jul 19 2004, 10:13 PM) I havn't heard anything from anywhere else; but my dad swears that when he was a kid he remember someone on their farm mating a sheep and that the sheep "gave birth" although it wasnt anywhere near developed, let alone alive. He says that its because a sheeps DNA is very close to humans...anyone else ever heard of this happening or of this happening with other species and humans? BTW his mom was a biology prof. so im assuming he has some valid sources, hehe.Who knows, anthromorphics may be closer than anyone realizes...(i hope ) I know it cant happen but not for lack of trying LOL I'll have puppies yet damnit!
What about inserting some seeded dog eggs into a woman's body? Or inserting them with a human egg? Like twins.It's a boy!and...a.dog?
the implanted eggs would then be promptly considered an invader and the female's body would reject it. Just as in heart transplants. They could perhaps keep her on drugs to lessen the chance of rejection, but more then likely it would harm the fetus...not to mention how a woman's body has a different body temp, chemical makeup, ect.., I like the points brought out about the Ligers and about the fact that myths have some bases normally in fact....and the proud father is...Shadow?
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no i really dont think it is possible but would be a nice idea real turn on
the internal temp of a human womb and an animals womb are almost identicleon a side note............if anyone gets there animal pregnant or if a woman gets pregnant by an animal........FONE ME i can get us on jerry springer
Human body temp-98.6 F . Cow's body temp 103-105 F. Body temp difference is enough to no let eggs fertilize. Thanks.MOO
QUOTE (nerp @ Aug 8 2004, 03:39 PM) the implanted eggs would then be promptly considered an invader and the female's body would reject it. Just as in heart transplants. They could perhaps keep her on drugs to lessen the chance of rejection, but more then likely it would harm the fetus...not to mention how a woman's body has a different body temp, chemical makeup, ect.., I like the points brought out about the Ligers and about the fact that myths have some bases normally in fact....and the proud father is...Shadow? I read a report by a woman that claims that when mating with her great danes she would miss her period and then 6 weeks later have a massive one. Her husband was a vet and she claims that he fertilized the great dane eggs and then implanted them into her and she gave birth to five puppies. No way to verify but she claims she has done it more than once.
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I'm not buying that Urban myth at best.
QUOTE (allengt @ Sep 6 2004, 01:30 PM) QUOTE (nerp @ Aug 8 2004, 03:39 PM) the implanted eggs would then be promptly considered an invader and the female's body would reject it. Just as in heart transplants. They could perhaps keep her on drugs to lessen the chance of rejection, but more then likely it would harm the fetus...not to mention how a woman's body has a different body temp, chemical makeup, ect.., I like the points brought out about the Ligers and about the fact that myths have some bases normally in fact....and the proud father is...Shadow? I read a report by a woman that claims that when mating with her great danes she would miss her period and then 6 weeks later have a massive one. Her husband was a vet and she claims that he fertilized the great dane eggs and then implanted them into her and she gave birth to five puppies. No way to verify but she claims she has done it more than once. I think I read about that one, on the stories and fantasy board here, it is a fantasy for some, but medically impossible
It's completly impossible for reasons already mentioned. Also its incredible sensitive even within simular spieces. You take a seagull from one side of the planet and then another from the other, get them to mate. You find that even though the same spieces or simular, they cannot produce offspring. Also it happens with spieces that are crossed like the donkey-horse cross, aparently they cannot bare offspring and are considered sterile
QUOTE (chmarr @ Jul 20 2004, 09:12 PM) did y'all know about the experements that some smart asses DID fertilize a cow egg with human sperm .... they let it gro for 4 weeks before they destroyed it .........but they did note that it WAS growing normalyweither if it grew into a calf or a human or a hybrid they dont know not exactly, what they did was take a bovine egg, remove the bovine DNA from within the egg and then implanted human DNA, let it grow for 4 days and then destroyed it. It was believed that if implanted into a womens womb, the egg would grow into a live fetus. What isn't known is weither this fetus would be some kind of bovine-human cross. The reasearch into creating such hybrid and simular experiments have since been banned by both Canada and the United States Governments back in Oct 2003.
What you need is some sort of DNA abstraction layer virus to section off the parts of both genomes, match them and then patch any empty sections with inactive filler DNA. No telling how many chromesomes you'd end up with if trying such a hack. Probably have to make it stick to the maximum number of one species or the other. And designing it to respond to only mammalian DNA and reject random microbe DNA, and solving countless other little problems would likely take lifetimes and produce a huge stack of Nobel prizes, new companies, a few dozen new branches of science and who knows what else. Even then, in the end, I doubt you'd end up with anything that would work across the entire set of chromesomes. Might be usefull for plant genetics though. To do it right you'd have to model everything on computer simulations, selectively splice, and/or snag some Nth party DNA block just to get a clean intermediate match. And the DNA sets would have to be "pre-cleaned" by irradiating clones of candidate cells to make sure they weren't prone to random breaks, mis-splices, etc. The same for any sets of post engineered cells as well. All of this today is pure theory. Like talking about 16,000 node, 80 Gflop per node, beowolf clusters in an era when they use punched cards and relay logic computers. Give it 50-80 years, then there might be a hint of a possiblity of doing it for real.
As far as I know both Father & Mother would have to be of same Family, such as Equus, Canis etc, which is why Indian elephants can make liittle ones with an African one as they are not of same Family. Yet lone Genus.
its not possible ,but its fun to try.so girls can relax about it and if they were worried they dont need birth control.even if the egg is fertilized and it didnt get expelled it wouldnt develop into something.
It is impopssible, I would say 100% not possible without any alterations. But if a way is found to alter the dna in human sperm I would say it might be possible to achieve this there is a very slim chance. I would like to ask why would anyone want to do this? It has been a fantasy but other than that I dont see any necessity to do this. Cloning has been researched and to some extent ben successful, we can use cloning to save endangered species, but why create hybrids? Aren't there enought species on this earth already? Is it not enough that we just see to that none of the present species go extinct? These are the question one should ask oneself before thinking about impregnating animals.
Making it so two species could freely intermate probably isn't practical for the types of applications people are talking about here.However, if you identify a biological niche that needs to be filled, you could create a hybrid to fill that. Usually this only applies in plant biology. Animals tend to adapt on their own pretty well without help. So worst case you might have to splice a few segments here or there.Theres also the issue of vanity hybrids, like finally being able to post engineer mules so they could breed. And tweeking the DNA of other species that due to limited gene sets now have a hard time interbreeding. Such as how coyottes and wolves tend to not intermix easily. If you had a virus that corrected for the problems you might more or less save the wolf population by allowing it to take advantage of the more diverse and populous dog and coyotte populations. Getting any studys to agree on the last concept there would be probably more difficult that getting a manned mars mission to work. You still have people who will rant, rave, and turn all colors of the rainbow saying that coyottes and dogs/wolves can't interbreed. If you showed them the actual hybrid animal, and the gene chart to go with it they'd probably lose it completely. Doesn't do much immediate good to have all your wildlife biologists in padded cells, but I suppose it would clear out the dead wood for once and for all.
Evilphil,Genetics and evolution do not work like that. Plants are remarkable in that it is quite easy to insert chromosomes into the species and not destroy it. Thus there are naturally occurring and man made hybrids out there with gargantuan amounts of genes. Animals are far more specific and sensitive to genetic differences. If things don’t line up for meiosis, it just won't work.You have natural selection backwards... we cannot impose evolution on animals by choosing an ecological niche for them and genetically altering them to fill it. The process you speak of happens in the reverse. An existing environmental pressure acts through time on a population to change the expression of genes as connected with reproductive success. This produces changes within a population and eventually may lead to new species.TK
It's a deep dream and a fantasiei have love with my boys severaltimes a day but never had a problemwith my period.Anne
Give some ass clown Frankenstien scientist some time and there will be hybraid human and animals.
Can't happen - and for all the reasons stated above.
this subject has just been worn out! topic closed
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