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The question is simple. Please not only vote, but tell me why.Personally i really want to get married with my mares but i have to find somebody to attend the ceremony.
I voted no because i hope to one day find a human companion to share my life with in every way .But if thats what you want to do id be honored to be at wedding
i could only ever give my heart compleately to a mare and shuld an acident ki.ll me I would want the compansation to go to her.
I voted no for 3 reasons:1. Dogs die much earlier than humans 2. Thats a hard one to explain to the family.3. Dogs give love, but i would like intellectual conversation with my lover as well.
I Totally agree with Airman1415Dan
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I voted no. I would rather spend my life with a human then a animal.I can go and see my animal whenevre I want.But a husband is so much better.Just is... I dunno.
One of those questions which are very hard to answer...Well, sure i would like to marry my mate but - and its a big but - why should i? I love him and i will love my future mates. I dont need someone to say or acknowledge this love or to make it "legal" in the meaning of marriage.Infact im allready married with him in the sense of being married. We share food, home, bed, love and each others bodys and company - in good and bad days. And isnt that what marriage is ment to be?So, yes i would love to see my love with my mate acknowledged offical! But do i need to be married with him, no.Besides, marriage means that both agree. I can but could ym dog? No, i doupt, he couldnt even understand what marriage means... So i gonna stay with my way
If it were possible definately!I'd rather be with an animal than a human..because of the simplicity of it all..no lying, no mind games..no words to twist and complicate feelings and emotions, etc. just a basic want and need to give and recieve love, pleasure and affection.as for the age differences..it would make no difference, would you not love someone the very same, even knowing they were going to die before you? yes..no doubt..just as id love a member of my family who was dying.as for intellectual conversation..thats what i have you people for lol.. as for my family..who cares! they can like it or not, because i cant change who i am, for them, for anyone.just my thoughts..whether people see them as right or wrong.I agree with HR though, on the fact it would be meaningless to a dog, and well..as long as my dog is happy with what we have together, then so am I!
well i voted yes but only because it would be wonderful to do so.not that i would or couldaside form the facts and problems allready listed which would put a crimp on it(reguarding mostly we outliving our mateshowever i dont think i,d wnat to expose my mates to any dangers from thosewho would try to harm or [CENSOR] them when it came out. besides look at the media over the same sex marriages right now here in the u.s. i would,nt wnat my 15 minutes of being in the spotlight like or over thatHB58
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I also voted no.. Marriage is a religous thingy, civil unions should be a government thingy not something that matters if you really do love your animal mate. It shouldn't matter if your human mate is a guy or a gurl. Also a sad fact is that a animal mate isn't gonna be around as long as we would like them to, not that that really matters if you really do love them, but proving that they love you it a government well that's just not gonna happen Its one of those points that more energy to fight than it is really worth. We have places like this that we can be ourselves and that means alot more to me than wanting some government to say " it's okay" ya know ^__^
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Well i see that many people are conserend about the short lifetime of their lovers and mates...I mean im too! My boy is getting three soon and i doupt he will get older then ten or so, but that doesnt makes me love him less but only more!! I know we will only have six or seven years together but i will enjoy every moment of them up to the limit! I doupt i handle it in a different way - just because he will leave me sooner then a human would i wouldnt love him less!So the time isnt a big deal for me!
For Me Ponys live about 50years so we will have a long life to geather and should I die from an accedint she would get the compansation from it and be taken care of
An opinion and POV from someone who did "marry" their non-human partner.First, marriage isn't solely a religious creation. Marriages have exsisted well prior to any of the current major religions and are practiced in cultures worldwide in both religious and civil forms. Marriage is a joining of two individuals into a 'family group', nothing more, unless you give your marriage more meaning by promise or practice. A marriage, in the end, has meaning only to the individual or individuals who take it upon themselves to join to another.Thats the human/ human aspect."marriage" to a non-human. The first thing to concider is that any meaning given to a 'ceremony' of bonding of yourself and your non-human partner has a known meaning only to yourself. We can interpret only so much of our partners emotional opinion of the relationship. All else is assumption and conjecture. That means you cannot reasonably expect a commitment made by yourself to be echoed by your partner. (You can enforce an exclusivity to you by your NH partner, but the reasons should be for their health and safety rather than your emotional desires)Even if you find your 'mate' rejects the sexual attention of others of their own kind or yours, it's only an assuption to say that he/ she does so out of an understanding of commitment to you.On the other side of the coin, a 'marriage' you enter into should have meaning to you. Whatever the terms or promises are should reflect how you feel and should not be entered into without good faith in holding to it. I say that not as an expectation of others for what you do, but an understanding of what giving your word to another means to your self. If you aren't prepared to keep a promise, don't make one. Unlike human/ human marriage, a marriage to a NH mate or mates ("Bigamy" is a religious concept) has NO meaning if YOU take it lightly.Vows or promises you make to a NH do not excuse your resonsibility to their welfare or give you rights to violate the trust and responsibility another human has to that non-human. Just saying you're 'married' to a dog, horse, etc, doesnt make them yours to do as you please with any more than any other one-sided commitment does. Marrying the horse down the road doesn't give you physical rights to that horse IOW. You are still responsible for concidering the consquences of that physical contact to the horse, his caretakers/ owners and family.Lastly, a promise given or vow taken is no less valid when given to a NH than to a human. Such promises as 'marriage' or commitment are really promises given to your self. Also remember we 'marry' individuals, no matter the species.A few words on my own 'marriage' to Tippy. I took a vow of both commitment and exclusivity to Tippy, physically and emotionally, because being with anyone else no longer felt right for my self, and because being with her did. I didn't expect any change in her behavior toward me, or return of that commitment. I could hold her to the same physical exclusivity, in fact it was a responsibility to do so to a point, but I didn't limit her emotional attachments or attentions with others. For whatever reason, and I don't assume any other than her individuality, she chose to show her emotional and loving side only to me.My celebacy since Tippys death is not due to or 'blamed' on any opinion of needed commitment after death or on the vows given during her life. It is simply a lack of desire to be with anyone else.The last two comments are only given as there is usually a confusion of or assumption of purpose in the actions taken by me in respect to them.Thats my opinion folks, based on my experience. I wish everyone could have the wonderful relationship I had, IF thats what you want.
QUOTE (jingking @ Apr 23 2004, 08:56 AM) i love animalsex,but how can i get married with them? You simply find someone to conduct a ceremony (in front of witnesses ideally) - usually just a matter of saying a few words. The "I do's" are really the only bit you have to change from marrying humans to each other. My best suggestion is for the human partner to take off the non-human partner's lead / headcollar whatever and then invite them to stay or leave - staying means "yes"
QUOTE (dracunculus @ Apr 23 2004, 01:18 PM) QUOTE (jingking @ Apr 23 2004, 08:56 AM) i love animalsex,but how can i get married with them? You simply find someone to conduct a ceremony (in front of witnesses ideally) - usually just a matter of saying a few words. The "I do's" are really the only bit you have to change from marrying humans to each other. My best suggestion is for the human partner to take off the non-human partner's lead / headcollar whatever and then invite them to stay or leave - staying means "yes" That does pretty much describe the "Circle of Joining" ceremony practiced by some of the original zoo internet community, from the zoocon and usenet days.The human and nonhuman partners would enter a circle, 'vows' would be made by the human and the non-human would be given the 'choice' of either staying with-in the circle or leaving the circle. Staying with-in the circle would be taken as affirmation of the vows. However, that remains a human assumption of the non-humans reason for not leaving the circle. Witnesses, 'ordained' officiants, actual circles in the dirt etc. are all window dressing however. In the harsh light of reality, none of them have any real meaning, nor has the ceremony...beyond that you yourself give to it for you and for your partner.I have written about my 'marriage' to Tippy. The story is on my website titled "Vows", however I don't think it would be out of place to repost it here FYI.
VowsTippy and I were at lost lake; a warm summer breeze bending the grasses we lay in, as I thought about the past year with her. I looked on this gentle soul beside me, remembering the scared, injured dog I saw back then and how it didn’t seem possible it could be her, now slumbering peacefully. She had struggled so hard to survive, to trust another, to let another trust her. In December she gave herself to me, showing me a passion I never felt from another. She gave her body to me, and every day since to only me. It took me till February to realize my love for her and do the same. Even as I accepted her body, though, I kept rejecting her soul. She flooded my heart and mind with pure, raw emotion, telling me with every thought and action, “I love you, I want to need you, to be needed by you.” I drew this in, selfishly, letting her fill me, then shutting my soul to her as every partner before had done with me. Yet I had not felt for them either, dealing with what was required in bed, and avoiding them in the light of day. So, what made Tippy different, and if she were truly different, what held me back?I stood, walking the waters edge as I paced the dusty roads of my heart. Where in this hollow shell would I find Tippy? I’d wandered here before, alone in myself, the dark walls giving no comfort. This time a presence crowded each echoing chamber, warming the dank passageways, and lighting the blackest recesses of my soul. She was here, in what had been an emotional wasteland she created life. My darkest demons, remainders of past evils, had ruled this realm, I never having the strength to battle them back. I found them now in retreat before her, no longer hiding to appear in the cold blackness of night, but being assaulted in the light of day, and the knight assaulting them was – me? Yes, I stood strong before them, Her love my unyielding weapon, her soul my support. A bond of love joined us, yet as strong as it was, but a delicate thread, so easily torn. The demons thrust their might against that fragile filament, weakening its hold. The being beside me spoke more thought than voice, in Tippys familiar tones. “We need a stronger bond to hold us here or the war will be lost for want. I’ve given totally to you, yet I also have demons to battle. Speak out your love for me, as I do mine for you, and join us with a bond none may break. Only then may we banish our demons together.” Brought out from my reverie, I realized she had in fact joined me, pacing at my side, when stopped looking questioningly up to me. I realized also what held me back from her, fear, and the object of that fear, commitment, was all we needed to make us complete. I took us back to our meadow, the sinking sun throwing red shadows on the trees, and sat beside her on our blanket. I lay my hand open on my lap. Staring deep into her, I spoke softly my love for her, praying for its return. “ I love you, Tippy, with all my being. I never felt complete before you, and fear to lose you to me and feel empty again. Marry me Tip, and let us join our souls for eternity.”Raising a delicate paw, she lay it in my palm, a loving whimper escaping her lips. “Tippy, I promise my self, my soul to you,” I spoke clear of voice and thought, for the first time in my life sure that this was right," I promise to give of myself to you, and no other, to support you, to love you, to hold no other above you for eternity. I am your mate, both body and soul, forever. This I vow to you and the world, and may my soul be damned an eternity of pain should I break it.” I grew silent, watching her, wondering how I’d know.Her paw still lay loosely in my palm; She raised her eyes to the heavens, a pure continuous howl parting her lips. I knew. Throwing back my head, I joined her, our cry blending in the still evening air till breath and hoarseness finally silenced the tone. It would not silence our love, nothing could. We sat, paw in hand, exploring each other’s eyes as moon and stars claimed the skies, and felt the demons banished forever from our souls. Moving closer, we caressed, holding each other in that meadow through the night, to peacefully watch the sun reclaim the sky.silverwolf
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That was a lovely post Silverwolf. Thank you.
well simple no for the same reason as HR. Also don't want to get married with a woman, for me it sucks the passion out of it. Without mariage you have to make everyday special so that you stay together and if it's not working out you can split up. Too many divorces now, have seen it destroy many lives although a good mariage could be sweet but quite rare
A good friend of mine is to be getting her JOP stuff and she said that me and my dog would be her first wedding that she would do. So bring on the milk bones and dog food to throw at the wedding, sorry no rice or bird seed, it attracts to many birds. I want to attract more dogs.
SilverWolfYour post about Tippy is one of the most beautiful things I have ever read; it brought tears to my eyes. Thank you so much for sharing it.Doglet"My little Dog, a heartbeat at my feet." - Edith Wharton
A wonderfull writing Silverwolf... Dont know what to say but that is something i would realy love to expiereance with my boy, though i doupt it will happen...Anyways, thanks for sharing it with us!
Thank you so much for sharing that Silverwolf. My words fall short in describing the beauty that is contained within it. Thank you.
Hello. My thoughts on this are a little vague. In that I seem to contradict myself. I do not believe that love needs a ceremony to be proven. However with that said, I do believe that at times the joining of two souls happens. True love finds a way to break through the barriers that we have surrounded ourselves in. Love holds more power then the deepest fear can ever hold. It may take time to realize, but the barriers come down. Fear holds nothing, in the path of love. 2
I voted yes. I have no interest in humans as far as sex goes. not a turn on. I have had one friend get married to a mare. some might have known him.I don't use animals just for sex infact I would not care If I never had sex with them I love just being near them. some times a mare can talk you into sex real fast if she is in the mood. I have been deeply in love befor with an animal and it is a wonderful thing. and if you think I have never been with a human your wrong I have had many girlfriends in the past and I could not stand them for very long. the bitching mostly. its always nice to not understand what your mate is saying.
To me marriage to my animals would seem redundant. I love them,take care of them and their needs. They get medical attention beforeI do, and they get fed and watered before I do. In a sense I am already married to them. I don't think they would understand anysort of ceremony, and it seems that marriage is mainly a tax shelteranyway. I need human companionship as well, but I will never, evergive up making love to animals.
I voted no, I really don't think my girl would know what was going on at all. Now if when asked "Will you take this man", and she answered yes, then heck yes. After they woke me up because I would faint at that point. But in my eyes we are married and her eyes we are mated so yes or no on the marriage question we love each other.WinTerRor, I was going to say that I would come to your wedding, but then I looked you up......Budapest! I'll send you a card.
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I voted No. I'm sorry, but getting married to an animal is just plain ridiculous. If your a man or woman, and can't maintain loving and/or sexual relationships with other human beings. Well then I'm sorry, but you need counseling. I was at one time actively involved with a male dog, so I'm not just trolling for trouble by saying this. sxygirl
i voted yes....marrriage is about comitment and if u luv your animal like a human then why cant you marry them. I feel that i am married to my labrador....we share bed, food & water, i even have a collar that matches his. we are doggy and bitch in almost every way possible - all accept the one way which is often why most humans get married
hi guys gals pups horses & what ever else in the like I voted no for many reasons 1st because i dont own a dog I did pick up a golden retriever but that was for my ex husband to share with my kids he is desexed & is a lovely (very untrained ) 8 month old pup & I did try to spy his doggy cock but wasnt so lucky 2nd I am already married to my soul mate & couldnt imagine life with anyone else be it k9 or human 3rd I wonder how fair it would be to the lovely creature I mena face it od they really know or care what the big hoohaa of a wedding ceremony is ??& besides they are just happy to be with us I dont think deep in their minds commitment deeper then what they already have is a big deal for them so didnt make much sense to me to want to commit deeper to somebody who already knows they are loved well beyond what other man or woman could know just me I guess have a safe 1 hugz & luvz PP
Thank you Silverwolf. That was the single most beautiful thing I've ever read in my life. It actually made me cry... Thank you, Silverwolf. May God bless you, may God bless Tippy, may He bestow his peace and blessings on your union and grant you many a happy year together, and may He one day bring you again together beyond time.
I voted no, just because 'marriage' is a human thing. Our species is already messed up beyond belief with all of our weird behaviour. Marriage in the human world, is frequently nothing more than a simple piece of paper that legally binds you.In the REAL world, legality is nothing. Just a moderating force in our strange, ritualistic (and mostly mindless) societies. If you want to seek a kind of closer binding to your non-human companion, then it'd be better to look elsewhere When a bird throws up on you as a sign of affection.. its flattering, but it doesnt do much for you, right? lol. Similarly, marrying an animal would simply confuse them. ESPECIALLY the ritualistic side of things.Simply love them, with all of your heart, and you will find the reaction is FAR better understood - and easier to return On a side-note, I think people place far too much importance on legal/illegal nowadays, instead of right/wrong. The best relationships in life dont need some random moron in a suit to validate them.All the same, good luck to you, no matter what you choose!
I now regret that I posted what I posted... I'm so sorry, Silverwolf... I was misled by your signature into believing that Tippy was still alive. But my respect to you is far greater now that I've read your previous post and your profile and learned of her having passed away and how you still consider yourself her mate. I can only bow my head before such devotion, and I no longer wish but know that beyond time and space you will meet again and be joined forever, for death could hardly have any power over love like that. God bless you, Silverwolf. And thank you. Thank you again.
If it had been possible for me to marry my Sheltie, I would have done it in the blinck of eye. He provided me with more love and effection than I had previously experienced prior to being with him, and in fact, afterwards also. When he passed I was devistate for quite a while. I mourned deeply. Being zoo, I have had to try to come to gips with the reality that my lovers' life spans are not as long as Human life spans. I suppose that I have not realy come to grips this yet, however, I am not one to ignore a soulmate. Unfortunately, the pain of loss seems to be part of zoo, weather I like it or not
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no i don't wish to marry my animals i have more then one. i also have a human girlfriend who i love
I love the idea of marriage between zoophiles and their lovers and wish you all happiness in whatever type of relationship you desire.
No, marriage is between a man and a woman. What I have with my horse isn't love in the traditional sense as far as a romantic union. Ours is based on different principals. And, he's not a woman
I am in all aspects in pretty much a common law marrage with my girl. We sahre the same home and we sahre the same bed. We take our meals together although she eats far more of mine than I do of hers. We have a sexual relationship, albeit modified due to her small size, We both have jobs. I go away to earn the mortgage while she stays home to safeguard our possesions. We are quite able to communicate with one another - words are not required - we can read each others bodys and emotions as surely as one would read a good book. I don't see any need for a "formal" cerimony. We are what we are, a paring of living souls untill death do us part
An interesting question but in reality there is no way we could legally become betrothed. Like many of us in this world we lived in a defacto relationship, the only difference in our relationship was that he walked on four legs and I walked on two.
i voted already married .the girl to the left is my world we do every thing together.eat sleep race travel and even i have a gold band on my finger with her name on it
You don't need marriage to prof you love some one.Marring an animal is useless from the animal point of view, and they can't consent to get married.PS: I'm a zoophile and I don't want to marry my dog, as we already live like if we where married. I don't need a ceremony to show how much we love each other.
As a man who is married to a woman, I personally would never subject my dog to something like that. I'm kidding, marriage is great for some people. I suppose if it makes sense to someone or makes them happy to have a marriage ceremony with their animal, that's fine by me too. I'd gladly attend the ceremony if asked. And before expressing my opinion I would like to say I definitley respect people who want to marry their animals and can appreciate the reasons why.Personally though, I would not marry my dog. It is in no way because I do not love her enough. In fact, I love her more than any human on Earth including my own wife (yes, my wife knows that and is OK with it. It's complicated). I am one of those people who doesn't much like marriage not because I think anything is wrong with it, but because it doesn't fit for me. Id have never gotten married except it is the only way to validate a human relationship in the US military at this time. Justice of the Peace kind of deal. Therefore I certainly see no reason to marry my dog as she appreciates human ceremony even less than I do. Sometimes I wish I did, but I don't. In my view a marriage ceremony would be trying to humanize her, when it is the fact that she is a dog, NOT human, that makes her a better mate for me. We love eachother, we do almost everything together, and she shares my bed and owns my heart. What more do we need?
A civil union, perhaps, but I'm a traditionalist and think marriage should strictly be between a man and a woman. Just because I like guys and male dogs and not women shouldn't give me the right to get married to them. Marriage is between two people of the opposite sex and God in my opinion. I don't understand why a civil union isn't good enough. As long as you're free to have a lifetime relationship with another person of opposite or same sex or an animal you deeply love, marriage shouldn't be a requirement to secure the bond. But to be fair, I have no desire to ever get married.
i would love to marry my mate when i am old as hell and i know i only have twenty years left,, then yes i would love to marry my lover
I'd marry my bitches in a heartbeat.
i lied we are already married
QUOTE (Dog lover @ Dec 14 2010, 03:50 PM) You don't need marriage to prof you love some one.Marring an animal is useless from the animal point of view, and they can't consent to get married.PS: I'm a zoophile and I don't want to marry my dog, as we already live like if we where married. I don't need a ceremony to show how much we love each other. ^ ThisWho needs a damn paper to tell you you are eternaly in Love with your Mate. They are already married to you by Love and by heart and spirit. Who need a ceromony, government, or church to make it true?
No way! The sex life will go downhill after that lol.
I think it would be great fun to get a group of friends together and have a wedding type ceremony with all the associated partying that goes with it. Get a friend to act as the registrar of the ceremony, dress up smart and get my animal partner dressed up too. Nothing serious and official would just be a great fun day to remember.
QUOTE (Rebel of the Sacred Heart @ Feb 3 2012, 12:55 PM) QUOTE (Dog lover @ Dec 14 2010, 03:50 PM) You don't need marriage to prof you love some one.Marring an animal is useless from the animal point of view, and they can't consent to get married.PS: I'm a zoophile and I don't want to marry my dog, as we already live like if we where married. I don't need a ceremony to show how much we love each other. ^ ThisWho needs a damn paper to tell you you are eternaly in Love with your Mate. They are already married to you by Love and by heart and spirit. Who need a ceromony, government, or church to make it true? i said we were already married, we are married by our eternal love, me and her are soul mates,, i love her,, and i know she loves me
I chose "we are already married!" lol After all, we tied the knot, lmao. I'm such a dork!
QUOTE (wet_lesbo_lover @ Feb 6 2012, 04:32 AM) a dog can't give the kind of love that a marriage takes From my Personal point of view, I do feel I have to Disagree with you there.A Canine is more than apt to give you all the true love you may ever want in a marriage.I have felt married to my Late Love, whom passed away a few weeks ago due to old age, bless Her heart and Soul and Spirit. There was a very deep rooted love between us. I understand this as it is a feeling from my heart, our time together.What is your evidence to lay claim that dogs do not possess the "needed" love to make a marriage work?Many marriages between humans fails..I think what you also have to concider is that many humans require Other humans as company, to talk with and to, from time to time.I am just confused on what you base your conclusion on there?My view and understanding is from my heart and fur me Personally, that Love that we had, Her fur me and Me fur Her, was very deep and loyal.My Love fur her will always be there, and I am sure she's feeling same, although she's Over the Rainbow at this present time.However, in closing, the "short" time we had together, it was very much like we were married, but without a ceremony to say I do..After all, it is only a ceremony, a form of humany ritual to make the bond, even though the bond may well already be in place, written into the hearts of the Two in Love.
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