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Well unable to pass a beasty law this year Florida zoosexuals are safe for the rest of this year at least. Here's a quote of the story:QUOTE Push for Florida bestiality law goes 'back to square one' Lawmakers fail to address a proposed law banning bestiality, worried about being accused of wasting time on an outrageous topic.BY CRISTINA SILVAHerald/Times Tallahassee BureauTALLAHASSEE -- From every angle, a ban on bestiality, long pushed by state prosecutors and animal rights activists, seemed poised to finally become law this year, with Republicans and Democrats in both chambers of the Florida Legislature joining forces to push it through.Yet it failed.The inability to outlaw something so repugnant reveals how difficult it can be to get even the most carefully crafted, widely supported bill passed in the Florida Legislature.Its advocates say that in the political stew of a legislative session, the very outrageousness of the topic worked against it.Lawmakers said they did not want to be accused of wasting time addressing a rare crime when Floridians needed them to help create jobs. They also did not want to debate the icky subject in public meetings occasionally frequented by children.``The whole thing just kind of collapsed, unfortunately, and so we are back to square one,'' said Nan Rich, the Senate's incoming minority leader, who has tried since 2008 to close this loophole in the law.House Majority Leader Adam Hasner said he had hoped for a different outcome.``I made a personal commitment last year to make sure the House would criminalize that type of disgusting, barbaric behavior,'' he said.News reports of Floridians having sex with animals are infrequent, but draw fierce outrage all the same.There was the Panhandle man who sexually battered and asphyxiated a pregnant goat in 2008. In West Palm Beach, there was a man who molested his neighbor's dog in 2004. Leon County has the story of a man who sexually battered his guide dog in 2005.``While it is not something that we think is a widespread problem, Florida ought to be able to prosecute these cases when they do happen,'' said Jennifer Hobgood, Florida State Director for the Humane Society of the United States.Animal rape was not always legal.A 1971 Florida Supreme Court decision struck down a law written in 1868 that banned bestiality on the grounds that is was too vague. The law prohibited, ``abominable and detestable crime against nature, either with mankind or with beast.''State prosecutors said the court decision made it difficult to convict people who have sex with animals. They must prove the suspect violated Florida's animal cruelty law, which prohibits tormenting or hurting an animal.``Obviously it is not as easy to prove that it [the sexual act] tormented the animal as it would be as easy to say, `it is illegal to have sex with an animal,' '' said Georgia Cappleman, a chief assistant state attorney in Leon County.As a result, prosecutors might only pursue misconduct charges or other lesser crimes, said Jeanne Howard, a chief assistant state attorney in Palm Beach County.``We often have to prove injury or repeated inflictions of pain that we are not always able to do with these kinds of cases,'' she said.Still, few lawmakers have expressed interest in banning bestiality in recent years.``They just don't like to discuss sex and animals,'' said Rep. Jim Waldman, D-Coconut Creek.The Senate passed the measure twice, but it did not earn so much as a hearing in the House until this session, when Hasner proposed a compromise. The ban was tucked into an omnibus agriculture bill, which passed in the House.But the Senate passed a different agriculture bill on the last day of the session that would have allowed some gun owners to store their guns in their vehicles in previously exempted locations. The bill also added a fertilizer provision that would make it easier for localities to approve strict ordinances. With mere hours left before the session's close, the House refused to take up the gun and fertilizer language, effectively slaying the agriculture bill.A separate bill that addressed only bestiality never made it to the House floor.Rep. Mary Brandenburg, D-West Palm Beach, summed up the topic's unpopularity: ``It is yucky.''Cristina Silva can be reached at csilva@sptimes.com.
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So it seems the main reason the law wasn't passed is because people were to squemish to bring the subject up. They seem to say the problem with the current law (prosecuting under the animal cruelty guide) is that it is difficult to prove injury that could be classed as animal cruelty. Maybe they should consider that the reason it is hard to prove the animal has been harmed is because in most cases there IS NO HARM. So due to this they think they need a new law where they can prosecute with no evidence of injury or harm to the animal. Basically they want to be able to prosecute because they don't like it.
That pretty much sums it up, they just want a law so they can give harder sentences so they feel better at night.
I'm particularly pleased to see such Fair and Balanced reporting language.
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I agree with the article. It's a waste of time on an outrageous topic. It seems to me that keeping the state financially sound would be a much better use of their time but what do I know?LTD
the fact of the matter is even if they make it illegal, people will still do it....hell its illegal in California and I don give a as long as the animal is not forced or harmed. I dont carehell with a good enough lawyer you can probably argue how sex is not harmful but pleasurable to both parties. no matter the species
whether it's europe or america, politics are the same.Don't like it, never will. Refuse to vote.
Maybe we should write the Fla. legislature and tell them we might bring touris money to the state as long as it is zoo freindly. Possibly they will leave well enough alone.
QUOTE Obviously it is not as easy to prove that it [the sexual act] tormented the animal as it would be as easy to say, `it is illegal to have sex with an animal.I love this part...if it's not obvious the animal was abused then why make it a crime? At that point it's simply making it illegal because of moral and or religious issues.
QUOTE (DeviouslyCD @ Aug 27 2010, 03:40 PM)Refuse to vote.You really do owe it to yourself to vote. Forget about that Demo. Rebub. crap. Just vote on the issues.Heck, my taxes just went up because a handful of people didn't vote.A vote not cast is a vote FOR the bill or law you are against.
I love that Florida is still zoo-legal -- what other states are? What countries? I'm in California, and have no idea how to find a dog to penetrate me (I'm a female), and can't ask, because it's illegal... But I'd travel to wherever it is legal, so I could ask around... And I think if a male dog is penetrating a female human, there is NO WAY anyone could say that was againsy the dog's will or desire...
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heh. well, that's good to know at least. Considering I've lived in Fl. For a good while now, I hope it stays that way... Not that it'll change what I do. But I'm glad that they decided not to go with another stupid, frivolous law. We've got too many stupid laws as it is!And by the way, talking about not voting? That's the worst thing you could do. By 'not' voting you completely remove yourself from being involved with who does things in the country. Though, you may not like some of the parties out there, at least you get to choose who you wish to see in a particular position. One of the few rights that we have in the states that is mostly easily exercised. Well, technically, there's no constitutional right for voting for the president, but there is with state and local elections. Which is where the powers of most laws should be in the first place. But that's a whole different discussion.I'm just glad that for now, people are letting this one go. Well, for now. I'm sure it'll probably be a matter of time till we're dealing with this again.
Good news for now.I bet some day some zoo will appear on the news begin prosecuted of bestiality for letting his dog hump his leg or for tongue kissing him and people will realize how stupid the anty-bestiality laws are and they will make bestiality legal again (in the states that is illegal)
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