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Posted by lisa352335 on February 12th 2009, 14:53

Hi, I've seen this topic briefly discussed here once before but there really was no useful information. I am very interested in trying sex with a horse, and have access to one that knows me and is very gentle (I also have a friend to help). I've heard that using a sling to lay in under the horse is one of the safer and more comfortable ways because the horse cannot thrust into the woman too much since she moves with him. I really like the thought of that approach and am looking for information on it.Does anyone have any pics or vids of a woman using a sling with a horse, or instructions for doing so (a "how to", where to get a sling or how to make one, and so on)? Any help and information would be very much appreciated!Thanks to all!Lisa

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Posted by LongThinDane on February 12th 2009, 17:09

Whatever you do, be careful. Safety first! Horses temperment can radically change when sex is involved. Then too, what if he decides he doesn't like that big thing (you) hanging underneath him and tries to kick it away.Very risky, imho.LTD

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Posted by neandernitz on February 12th 2009, 17:22

Catherine the Great is rumored to have died that way. So much for safety.It's really a dangerous, last ditch maneuver to use a sling to try to rescue an injured or trapped horse-- can't imagine where you would hear it would be safe to suspend one over you for sex.This is mostly a subject for erotic art. As they say on TV: "Don't try this at home....."Welcome to the Forum! Be safe, live long.... Sex with Stallions........ We lose more good newbies that way......

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Posted by st benard on February 12th 2009, 19:49

QUOTE (neandernitz @ Feb 13 2009, 02:22 AM) Catherine the Great is rumored to have died that way. So much for safety.It's really a dangerous, last ditch maneuver to use a sling to try to rescue an injured or trapped horse-- can't imagine where you would hear it would be safe to suspend one over you for sex.This is mostly a subject for erotic art. As they say on TV: "Don't try this at home....."Welcome to the Forum! Be safe, live long.... Sex with Stallions........ We lose more good newbies that way...... From what I have read about Catherine the Great, she had devised a sling to lower her lover down over her so she could watch as his erection entered her body. Unfortunately the horse did not like the idea and struggled and slipped out of the sling crushing her causing extensive internal injury's resulting in her death several hours later. I think Lisa is asking for something like the belly riders use. I have heard of at least one female back in the fifty's who used a sling or cargo net thing to support herself under her stallion. Try reading a few of the belly riding story's and you might get an idea on how to construct something to suit your purpose.

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Posted by Dvalinn on February 12th 2009, 20:25

What Chatherine the Great are you guys talking about? The only one that I know of is Catherine II from Russia, and she died of a stroke.

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Posted by Bullsai on February 12th 2009, 20:43

The Catherine the Great died from sex with a horse story is a myth. She supposedly had a lover(s) who she called her 'stallion(s)' hence the confusion.

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Posted by Sirocco99 on February 12th 2009, 21:29

I think what Lisa is refering to is ?belly riding"..a so-called practice of being in some sort of harness attachement slung under the belly of a stallion while he screws you. Personally, I think this is one of those'urban myths' we all KNOW are 'true' Once again, I'd like to throw out a challenge to anyone to produce any VISUAL proof of this..preferably in video form. I know there are lots of stories around, etc..but I'd put those into the Fantasy section, where they belong. From what little I know of stallions..belly riding is something that one would try ONCE..as the most likely result would be a very nasty way to get killed

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Posted by neandernitz on February 12th 2009, 22:56

OK, here's the thing:It's a mass vs. velocity thing-- you know: Inertia.Consider:Hang by your hands from a chin-up bar, or doorframe, or tree branch--whatever's handy.Now have a big guy punch you in the stomach and see if it hurts. Ask him to use short strokes, like they do in the boxing ring. Remember: you're free to swing. Think it'll hurt?A stallion's thrusts aren't a smooth push. They are fast enough that you really need 1/2 or 1/3 slo-mo to appreciate the effect. The difference between his hips swinging and your body swinging isn't going to matter much in the long run--it's still a powerful object against a body at rest....

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Posted by Hightailin on February 13th 2009, 0:37

Sex with a stallion of any kind with out any experience with horses is a death wish. I have seen stories in the past about this so called belly riding technique and thought it was a crock until I met someone who had one of these slings constructed (though never used). This person worked leather and built it as a novelty. Having worked with stallions professionally for a number of years, I would imaging that doing this with anything but a heavily sedated stallion would be suicide.Stallions do not act in real life the way they do in movies. Also most people who write stories get their view of stallions from the commercial porn they have seen. In other words beware of people with a commercial animal porn education who really have no idea what they are talking about. Listening to these people or taking most stories you have read seriously WILL get you killed or seriously injured if you yourself were to try what was depicted with a stallion.

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Posted by tigerrarr on February 13th 2009, 4:30

In addition to what everyone else has said, ever thought how the horse would react with someone suspended under their belly? Many horses are great and can be very calm and not react to many things... but for some unknown object to be underneath them and pulling would probably startle many horses. Stallions are a bit more high strung than geldings or mares as well.Plus.. being under a horse like that, with all fours on the ground- he could VERY easily decide what is under him is an annoyance and kick. When a horse is mounting something and his front legs are off the ground, it makes it a bit more difficult for him to lift up a back leg and swing it forward. I think its a nice fantasy but completely unrealistic and extremely dangerous.

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Posted by magicjoker on February 14th 2009, 0:45

indeed I would not dare to be under a stallion that wants to go for it.I have seen some in real mating actions (doing the mares) and that is not really friendly. Stallions need to be trained well even for doing that in a way that the willing mare is not being raped.Not always real rape, but tends to get close to that. And the o so friendly stallion (that a kid could lead) is when he has his mating tack on, a very wild and hard to control animal. and going for a belly ride would be a suicide wish.

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Posted by lisa352335 on February 15th 2009, 17:01

Hi Everybody!Thanks for your thoughts and all of the replies, although I must say that I'm discouraged. I was really looking forward to what I thought would be a safer and more comfortable approach to mating with a horse than laying on hay bales, but from the sound of the feedback I guess it isn't. It sounds like the general consensus is to not try sex with a horse at all! Are there any members out there who disagree with that and have enjoyed sex with a horse and lived to tell about it? If so, I'd appreciate whatever hints, pointers, tips, stories or instructions that you could provide so I can make an informed decision about the technique and risk involved.Thanks again everyone!Lisa

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Posted by Hightailin on February 15th 2009, 21:25

I have enjoyed being a mare for quite a few stallions of different sizes in the past. 90% of the time it was extremely painful, just under my pain threshold, and this is coming from someone who was very practiced with taking large toys and stallions. The only ones that were fun were the miniatures. They were much more controllable and they did not have the length to make you extremely uncomfortable. They are still dangerous though, as I have known at least four people, a chick included, who have been torn by a mini stallion.As I said in my previous post ... Stallions are not for anyone who is not extremely experienced handling horses. They are not like a male dog when it comes to how they act. They are a whole other level that should not be touched unless you absolutely know what you are doing. They can kill ya just as easily in a non sexual scenario as they can in a sexual one.Big thing to remember ... The Stuff You See In Commercial Porn Is FAKE!The horses in commercial porn are heavily sedated to make the stallion drop his penis and to keep the actor safe. This is an extremely abusive practice and one that I am against it 100%.The best advice I can give would be:DO NOT ATTEMPT TO DUPLICATE WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN IN VIDS UNLESS YOU HAVE A DEATH WISH.

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Posted by dr Kaninov on February 15th 2009, 22:08

Hello!first of all, I have no experience with horses, so take my advice as what it is worth.now that you are warned, here is my "advice"Start by watching...If you can, get yourself to see horses mating, or a male "donating" his sperm on one of those artificial mares, that will give you an idea of what you are dealling with, I have seen a couple vids (hence no real input), of such a device, the frame was a metallic welded structure, when "mr Ed" came in, the device stood still, no movement, but when he started his buisness, the thing was bumped forward several times, my guess is that the structure and operator weighted about 300 kilos (600 pound), and they were shoved forward with some hip thrusts.So, be very careful, and as some have said, you might be able to do it eventually, if you take the proper training, dilations, big toys and then bigger ones, and probably using some contraption similar to the one I described, which would take the strength and weight of your lover.

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Posted by jamesfrmphilly on February 15th 2009, 22:42

um, is that what is meant by "having your ass in a sling"?

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Posted by Lobster_J on February 16th 2009, 5:54

The only Idea I had in my head I guess would work for women better if they are face up that's if they use a mating receptacle and hand held one and have it slightly modified so there are two opening but would function the same way, and put it over your pussy and length enough so he can't go all the way?

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Posted by Sirocco99 on February 16th 2009, 21:29

QUOTE The only Idea I had in my head I guess would work for women better if they are face up that's if they use a mating receptacle and hand held one and have it slightly modified so there are two opening but would function the same way, and put it over your pussy and length enough so he can't go all the wayI'm not sure I'd go with this, Lobster. Do a lil visualisation. Imagine your stallion with a full erection..note how far towards his forelegs the head of his cock comes. Then imagine the sling under the horse and how the human body will fit. Note when the appropriate human "receptacle is in relation to the horse Now imagine just how MUCH of the stallion's erect cock will be driven into the human body. I doubt the human will survive the encounter. Actually, given the positioning..I'm not even sure the stallion would be able to even enter the human if he was already erect..you'd have to start with a slack stallion.

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Posted by Lobster_J on February 17th 2009, 0:40

QUOTE (Sirocco99 @ Feb 16 2009, 09:29 PM) QUOTE The only Idea I had in my head I guess would work for women better if they are face up that's if they use a mating receptacle and hand held one and have it slightly modified so there are two opening but would function the same way, and put it over your pussy and length enough so he can't go all the wayI'm not sure I'd go with this, Lobster. Do a lil visualisation. Imagine your stallion with a full erection..note how far towards his forelegs the head of his cock comes. Then imagine the sling under the horse and how the human body will fit. Note when the appropriate human "receptacle is in relation to the horse Now imagine just how MUCH of the stallion's erect cock will be driven into the human body. I doubt the human will survive the encounter. Actually, given the positioning..I'm not even sure the stallion would be able to even enter the human if he was already erect..you'd have to start with a slack stallion. well im not sure if I gave a descriptive enough idea of what it is im trying to say. You know how the have those big sleeves they use when the horse is mounted on one of those big fake dummy things and the use the sleeve to collect semen for AI.

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Posted by Hightailin on February 17th 2009, 23:04

Unless it is a rigid AV it would not offer much protection, and even then you have a stallion thrusting against a hard plastic tube, and that could cause damage in itself. As for using a phantom mare with an AV built in, those cost a lot of money and would quite out of the range of anyone with an average income. Short of doing something outrageous and costly, that would be extremely training intensive with the stallion, safely having sex with a full size male horse is next to impossible. Even the very select group of people who are practiced enough to take stallions are still taking a massive risk by doing so.

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Posted by RexBerry on February 19th 2009, 16:32

I once read in a history of the American Indians, written in the early 1800's, where a young squaw had killed a warrior that was raiding their camp.As punishment for killing him, she was strapped under a stallion. Some "mare in heat" secretions were applied under his nose. His cock was inserted into her as he started to stiffen. The Stallion was then swatted to make him bolt and run. Witnesses observing the body later, claimed she was a bloody mess, and had died most horribly.This was recorded by white men that witnessed the event.This was not the only recording of such executions. I have read of this form of execution used in China, Japan and various Middle Eastern cultures on young women.Impalement by Horse Cock couldn't be considered a pleasant way to go. Most executions were accompanied with torture and grueling exercises of depravity, so as to set an example. Impalement in this manner, seemingly, didn't include any other prerequisite conditioning.There is a video of Ms Beast (?) doing a Mini-Stallion on Petsex.com. It will give an idea of what to expect.

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Posted by neandernitz on February 19th 2009, 19:16

QUOTE (RexBerry @ Feb 19 2009, 09:32 AM) I once read in a history of the American Indians, written in the early 1800's, where a young squaw had killed a warrior that was raiding their camp.As punishment for killing him, she was strapped under a stallion. Some "mare in heat" secretions were applied under his nose. His cock was inserted into her as he started to stiffen. The Stallion was then swatted to make him bolt and run. Witnesses observing the body later, claimed she was a bloody mess, and had died most horribly.This was recorded by white men that witnessed the event.This was not the only recording of such executions. I have read of this form of execution used in China, Japan and various Middle Eastern cultures on young women.Impalement by Horse Cock couldn't be considered a pleasant way to go. Most executions were accompanied with torture and grueling exercises of depravity, so as to set an example. Impalement in this manner, seemingly, didn't include any other prerequisite conditioning. Pretty much thinking this urban legend has been around awhile..... Some documentation would be helpful.

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Posted by Hightailin on February 19th 2009, 20:39

I found this while going through Hani Miletski's book Understanding Bestiality and Zoophilia.In the history section it goes over various documented cases and one of them kinda stood out when I read the last post. This has to do with [CENSOR] Germany and what went on in one of the concentration camps. Its a bit disturbing but its worth a read."During World War II, human-animal breeding experiments were conducted by Dr. Josef Mengele, a [CENSOR] physician of the notorious Auschwitz concentration and extermination camp. He was reported to be obsessed with bestiality, and was bent on creating a hybrid that could eventually replace slave labor for menial tasks. He used the large camp source of young Jewish and Polish girls in the Auschwitz concentration camp for this purpose. Mengele had his St. Bernard, Baron, copulate with approximately 500 female prisoners. He constructed a special rack for this purpose, where the woman was firmly strapped, with her legs spread wide (Blake, 1972; Rosenfeld, 1967; The Wild Animal Revue, 1992c).Dr. Mengele also had ponies have sexual intercourse with women. Another special rack was constructed for that purpose. Often, however, the part of the rack supporting the pony and preventing it from inserting his whole penis gave way. The pony’ s penis then ruptured the victim, who would bleed to death, while Dr. Mengele stood calmly by, taking notes (Rosenfeld, 1967; The Wild Animal Revue, 1992c). The editor of The Wild Animal Revue (1992c) points out that it is interesting to note that most historical accounts of Dr. Mengele ignore his bestiality crimes and obsession. He suggests that perhaps they were too taboo for the popular press at the time."

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Posted by easytohandle on February 19th 2009, 21:22

You all have made very good observations and concerns. Any animal can react in many wild ways when dealing with anything new. Horses are very unpreditable if you don't know what you are looking for. Once you understand a horses body language and can tell it's mood, acceptance, and wants. These animals communicate in very suttle ways. I would suggest you spend as much time with him as you can. Watch his tail,eyes,ears,feet,or any movement he makes when you touch him. Does he accept you? Are you afraid of him? Don't let him push you arround. You will have to be dominant. If you are afraid he will know, If you aren't dominant, he will hurt you. If your friend has had this horse, she will know how to read him. Is he willing to drop for you? Can you or your friend touch or hold his member without problems. I clean our studs on a regular basis and still get surprised at times. Every horse will react different. If he will allow you to clean his member, watch his tail. Does it clamp down? If yes! Look out,that is a warning. If it is relaxed with no change or slightly raised, or flagging he is probably accepting what you are doing. Most studs will turn and look at you and wander what the hell your doing but with continued handling he will get used to it. If he shows signs of fear or not wanting anything to do with you. Try to end on a good note with him and try another day. If he still wont accept you but you are making progress continue to earn his trust, but always end every encounter on a good note. BE PATIENT!!!!!!!Little steps forward will be your reward in the long run. I believe you will be able to make you desire happen. I would NOT try the basketon a horse that is not trained for it. Standing to the side of him with your friends help to guide will be your best chance of less penitration at first. Then as he learns after a few encounters it will get easier and you will be able to get more under him.Taking from the side also gives you a quick exit if needed,cuz your still on your feet. I have some printed material if you would like , let me know.

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Posted by st benard on February 19th 2009, 23:45

QUOTE (neandernitz @ Feb 20 2009, 04:16 AM)QUOTE (RexBerry @ Feb 19 2009, 09:32 AM) I once read in a history of the American Indians, written in the early 1800's, where a young squaw had killed a warrior that was raiding their camp.As punishment for killing him, she was strapped under a stallion. Some "mare in heat" secretions were applied under his nose. His cock was inserted into her as he started to stiffen. The Stallion was then swatted to make him bolt and run. Witnesses observing the body later, claimed she was a bloody mess, and had died most horribly.This was recorded by white men that witnessed the event.This was not the only recording of such executions. I have read of this form of execution used in China, Japan and various Middle Eastern cultures on young women.Impalement by Horse Cock couldn't be considered a pleasant way to go. Most executions were accompanied with torture and grueling exercises of depravity, so as to set an example. Impalement in this manner, seemingly, didn't include any other prerequisite conditioning. Pretty much thinking this urban legend has been around awhile..... Some documentation would be helpful. I seem to recall something similar supposedly happened in India.Admittedly I do not know a great deal about equines, but how many males can keep and erection and run at the same time.There has been many recorded instances where the human female is tied or strapped down on or over something and a stallion, donkey or some other exotic animal rapes the female resulting in a slow and painful death. There are writing's of this sort of entertainment back in Egyptian and Roman times to entertain the public. And if I remember correctly there are a couple of stories about some of the barbaric entertainment customs in the story section, or was it a redirect. Lately the memory is not what it used to be.

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Posted by neandernitz on February 20th 2009, 14:22

QUOTE (jamesfrmphilly @ Feb 15 2009, 03:42 PM) um, is that what is meant by "having your ass in a sling"? I think you need to look up the "Jenny" thread for that one.......

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Posted by Hightailin on March 1st 2009, 0:16

I am sure someone would end up in a casket rather than a sling if they actually tried this stunt.

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