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I've heard that someone try to do "zeta pin hunting" on the bus or underground railway, i.e. trying to find others wearing zeta pin. I remembered someone said he found two people wearing zeta pin on the bus!Have anyone done this before? Is there really many zeta pins?(My guess: presume 0.5% people are zoo, and one fifth zoo wear zeta pins. Thus one in a thousand does.)
Zeta pins are a rarity because not many people make them and because they are so rare I don't see how one could hope to see someone wearing one unless it was by pure chance. I have met many zoophiles in person and only very few of them actually own a zeta pin. Like I said they are very rare as many people do not have the ability to produce them and most people who do have this ability are not zoo or beast themselves.
Nope, never seen one.But, Masters and Johnson in the early fifties said 3% of people admitted to beasty sex. And I think thats low. More have done it than admit to it.
I guess a lot of member have heard of zeta pins but not many in real life have ever seen anybody wearing said pin. The other problem is that if everybody knew what the pin represented then who would be game to wear a target like that in public.
I would rather wear a necklace than a pin. A necklace with a symbol is fairly common and doesn't attract attention much. Cross, Yin-Yang symbol, etc. A pin on the other hand tends to catch people's eye. Someone sees one they'll take a look at it...what happens when they ask you what it means? I really don't know where you could find either one; ZetaCreations no longer sells them.
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I actually look for tatoos more than pins. Those, while more difficult to see, tend to reveal much more information. I've seen only one in my area, but I live in the middle of no where. Still, that was all it took for us to get to know one another. He's a good guy. Try near the ankles, or a shoulder in the summertime.
QUOTE (Haia @ Nov 30 2008, 07:59 PM) I actually look for tatoos more than pins. Those, while more difficult to see, tend to reveal much more information. seconded! i have yet to see a zeta symbol anywhere on a pin or necklace, but i have seen paw prints, names that were either odd human pet names or ACTUAL pet names with hearts, and what could have been a modified zeta symbol. thats what you get from going 5 times a week to a hardcore dog park!
QUOTE (Skyrune @ Nov 30 2008, 07:32 PM)I would rather wear a necklace than a pin. I agree that a pendant would be better. It's easier to produce than a pin too, IMO.QUOTE I really don't know where you could find either one; ZetaCreations no longer sells them.Does anyone know who owns the design that ZetaCreations was selling?I can produce such pendants if there's actually a demand for them. I've thought about doing it before, but didn't really see anyone looking. I've seen a couple of beast tats before too. I didn't pry, but after a casual conversation I'm fairly sure the ladies they were attached to were in the scene.
I personally wear a zeta pin everyday on a cloth around a my neck. That, and a custom made bracelet with a rather fanciful zeta. I have been asked, and much to my displeasure, pestered heavily about what the symbol means, but so far I have not found anyone who already knows, including a few zoos that I have met. What's displeasing is that people I know start guessing what the symbol means. Fortunately they can't Google it (or at least don't know how).Can't say as I've ever seen anyone else with one. I wear mine as a signal to anyone who might be in the know, but it's just never happened.
QUOTE (everest @ Dec 1 2008, 08:41 AM) QUOTE (Skyrune @ Nov 30 2008, 07:32 PM)I would rather wear a necklace than a pin. I agree that a pendant would be better. It's easier to produce than a pin too, IMO.QUOTE I really don't know where you could find either one; ZetaCreations no longer sells them.Does anyone know who owns the design that ZetaCreations was selling?I can produce such pendants if there's actually a demand for them. I've thought about doing it before, but didn't really see anyone looking. I've seen a couple of beast tats before too. I didn't pry, but after a casual conversation I'm fairly sure the ladies they were attached to were in the scene. I know someone who is currently making pins, though he has not got them into production yet. Last time we discussed them he told me they would be ready to be sold in early December. From what I have seen they look really nice, and he plans on doing both pendants as well as pins.I will ask him if I can post some pictures of them on this site.
QUOTE (Hightailin @ Dec 2 2008, 03:29 AM) I know someone who is currently making pins, though he has not got them into production yet. Last time we discussed them he told me they would be ready to be sold in early December. Excellent, it just won't do to not have such items available somewhere Hope to see some pictures of them soon.I also like the idea of a leather wrist band with an imprinted zeta design (not sure what the leatherworking technique is called. Embossing?). I don't personally wear any jewelery so a pendant or pin would stand out a bit, but I could probably get away with some leather. Its unusual enough to get noticed but not all that uncommon.
Here's the bracelet I wear. I didn't pay for it, so I have no idea how much such things would cost to make or buy, but it wouldn't be that much.
QUOTE (Hightailin @ Dec 1 2008, 10:29 PM) QUOTE (everest @ Dec 1 2008, 08:41 AM) QUOTE (Skyrune @ Nov 30 2008, 07:32 PM)I would rather wear a necklace than a pin. I agree that a pendant would be better. It's easier to produce than a pin too, IMO.QUOTE I really don't know where you could find either one; ZetaCreations no longer sells them.Does anyone know who owns the design that ZetaCreations was selling?I can produce such pendants if there's actually a demand for them. I've thought about doing it before, but didn't really see anyone looking. I've seen a couple of beast tats before too. I didn't pry, but after a casual conversation I'm fairly sure the ladies they were attached to were in the scene. I know someone who is currently making pins, though he has not got them into production yet. Last time we discussed them he told me they would be ready to be sold in early December. From what I have seen they look really nice, and he plans on doing both pendants as well as pins.I will ask him if I can post some pictures of them on this site. They are not going ot be as cheap as what Zeta Creations was selling them for. Last time I bought 6 of them, they were, think $12.95 each. These new ones are going to be alot higher, like $65.00, but good quality, and good material always costs more.
I just got these in an email with an ok to post them.There are other styles available as well. (zeta pin with paw print, horse shoe, and combination of both paw print and horse shoe)He still has not given me a price yet but I will keep asking.
I was told he can do them in both pins and pendants. I will try to post any new updates as soon as I receive them.
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nope i haven't seen any didn't even know that anyone made them. would like to see some pictures of one if there are any around
I swore I saw someone wearing a pendent at a college but he ran off before I could get a close enough look... I would of have had mine on but it broke
I have 4 of them, that I bought a few years ago. wish someone would make them bigger, and out of cheaper metal so the price would be cheaper to buy. I know these one here are not going to be all that cheap, not like $13.95 for what I paid for mine a few years ago, which are the same thing, in about, the size of a quarter
The ones my friend is selling are pure silver ... hence the projected price.
That looks good..I like the idea of a pendant with a horse-shoe
Those look really nice, but they may be just a tad bit large. Quarter-size? I was thinking more along the lines of something the size of a dime...you know, more subtle.You want it to catch the eye of fellow zoos, but not be a beacon for every stranger to ask you what it means.
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Quarter size was the most requested size. Can't fit everyone's needs unfortunately.
I would rather wear a pendant than a pin. If I could get a pendant like that, it would be nice.
They are already set up to do pendants so that would not be a problem.
Anyone who is interested in ordering one can either contact me via my YIM account or can just send me a PM and I can forward the email addy of the guy who is making these. Trying to keep email addresses off the main forum so I don"t get hammered by the mods.
QUOTE (Hightailin @ Dec 9 2008, 04:15 AM) Quarter size was the most requested size. Can't fit everyone's needs unfortunately. Oh it wasn't a complaint. Just an observation.And I'll send you a PM...I'd definitely be interested in buying a pendant.
QUOTE (Hightailin @ Dec 8 2008, 12:31 AM) The ones my friend is selling are pure silver ... hence the projected price. I'll have to email him and ask about pewter, or something cheaper I know he has put alot of work in them.
QUOTE (Skyrune @ Dec 8 2008, 02:22 PM) Those look really nice, but they may be just a tad bit large. Quarter-size? I was thinking more along the lines of something the size of a dime...you know, more subtle.You want it to catch the eye of fellow zoos, but not be a beacon for every stranger to ask you what it means. The ones that Zeta creations, and others sold, were quarter size, I have 4 of the older ones from them.
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I would be interested in a cheaper pendant. I'm not sure what zetacreations ones were made of, but something around that price range, I would want (less than $20)Call me cheap, but I don't want to pay $65 for a charm.
Hmm, I have never heard of these pins or charms? What are they? And how many people do actually wear them?
QUOTE (Bazeque @ Dec 9 2008, 06:42 PM) Hmm, I have never heard of these pins or charms? What are they? And how many people do actually wear them? Not sure how many people wear them, but it is a charm with a symbol used by zoophiles. And I think the symbol looks cool.
QUOTE (missywolf @ Dec 9 2008, 06:39 PM) I would be interested in a cheaper pendant. I'm not sure what zetacreations ones were made of, but something around that price range, I would want (less than $20)Call me cheap, but I don't want to pay $65 for a charm. Gah! Is that the quoted price of these? They're nice, but not that nice, I'm afraid. I mean, considering their size and the most likely material for their production, they... Erm...*stares at your avatar*What were we talking about again?
earlier in the thread, by muttlieclue:QUOTE They are not going ot be as cheap as what Zeta Creations was selling them for. Last time I bought 6 of them, they were, think $12.95 each. These new ones are going to be alot higher, like $65.00, but good quality, and good material always costs more.and from hightaillin:QUOTE The ones my friend is selling are pure silver ... hence the projected price.
QUOTE (missywolf @ Dec 9 2008, 07:21 PM) earlier in the thread, by muttlieclue:QUOTE They are not going ot be as cheap as what Zeta Creations was selling them for. Last time I bought 6 of them, they were, think $12.95 each. These new ones are going to be alot higher, like $65.00, but good quality, and good material always costs more.and from hightaillin:QUOTE The ones my friend is selling are pure silver ... hence the projected price. Ah. Thank you. And damn...
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QUOTE (Bazeque @ Dec 10 2008, 12:42 AM) Hmm, I have never heard of these pins or charms? What are they? And how many people do actually wear them? The zeta symbol has been more or less adapted by the zoo/beast community as a "mark" of sorts for someone who is in the lifestyle. Besides looking really cool, it's subtle enough that your average person wouldn't know what it meant, but someone who is a zoo would be able to recognize someone else who's a zoo if they spotted someone wearing the zeta sign.The other common mark for the zoo community is a paw print, but this tends to be a bit generic...I mean anyone who likes dogs can wear a paw print, that doesn't really tell you how much they like their animal. A combination of the two looks nice but again, people will ask what the symbols mean.Things like stickers, decals and shirts have all been suggested. But the pin and pendant are very good choices because you can wear one and get noticed by fellow zoos without drawing undo attention.Plus it would be a kick to wear something that displays your choice openly in public without fear of consequence. People wear things like peace signs and Yin-Yang symbols all the time, for instance.
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QUOTE (Bazeque @ Dec 9 2008, 07:42 PM) Hmm, I have never heard of these pins or charms? What are they? And how many people do actually wear them? Call me strange, weird, or what, but I wear a dog collar,a nd have been for a few years. And I wear it with a zeta pendant all the time, and it does hang on the outside of my clothes. I've been asked by a lot of people what the deal was about the pendant and the collar. I tell them it is something that I do, and I like it. Some I tell that I wear the collar in my family, cause my dogs don't wear them. I have a white ring around my neck from wearing the collar so long and so much.
QUOTE (Muttlieclue @ Dec 10 2008, 06:46 PM) QUOTE (Bazeque @ Dec 9 2008, 07:42 PM) Hmm, I have never heard of these pins or charms? What are they? And how many people do actually wear them? Call me strange, weird, or what, but I wear a dog collar,a nd have been for a few years. And I wear it with a zeta pendant all the time, and it does hang on the outside of my clothes. I've been asked by a lot of people what the deal was about the pendant and the collar. I tell them it is something that I do, and I like it. Some I tell that I wear the collar in my family, cause my dogs don't wear them. I have a white ring around my neck from wearing the collar so long and so much. Hmm... I like this idea.
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QUOTE (secret_admirer @ Dec 10 2008, 08:09 PM) QUOTE (Muttlieclue @ Dec 10 2008, 06:46 PM) QUOTE (Bazeque @ Dec 9 2008, 07:42 PM) Hmm, I have never heard of these pins or charms? What are they? And how many people do actually wear them? Call me strange, weird, or what, but I wear a dog collar,a nd have been for a few years. And I wear it with a zeta pendant all the time, and it does hang on the outside of my clothes. I've been asked by a lot of people what the deal was about the pendant and the collar. I tell them it is something that I do, and I like it. Some I tell that I wear the collar in my family, cause my dogs don't wear them. I have a white ring around my neck from wearing the collar so long and so much. Hmm... I like this idea. I get a few looks everyplace I good, but well I put it in play with the Goth stuff, I tell some of them. I've gone through 6 dog collars, and have 5 different ones now. One leather spike, one all steel spike, and the typical collar you buy at Walmart and such, that snaps together. But I wear one everyday, if I do forget, the people at work asks whats wrong, wear is the collar. And the dog collars are pretty cheap on ebay, or at Walmart.
QUOTE (missywolf @ Dec 9 2008, 06:39 PM) I would be interested in a cheaper pendant. I'm not sure what zetacreations ones were made of, but something around that price range, I would want (less than $20)Call me cheap, but I don't want to pay $65 for a charm. im with missywolf on that
The pins as is were not meant to be for everyone. They are for people who want a very nice pin or pendant that will last a life time rather than one made from a cheap metal that wont keep its shape.
QUOTE (Hightailin @ Dec 10 2008, 10:38 PM) The pins as is were not meant to be for everyone. They are for people who want a very nice pin or pendant that will last a life time rather than one made from a cheap metal that wont keep its shape. oh, okay. that's cool.
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QUOTE (Muttlieclue @ Dec 11 2008, 12:46 AM) Call me strange, weird, or what, but I wear a dog collar,a nd have been for a few years. I tell them it is something that I do, and I like it. I have a white ring around my neck from wearing the collar so long and so much. i wore a dog collar for 5 years straight as a younger person *coughtriesnottoviolateunderagerulecough*i know how you feel!! My teachers would all inevitably ask "whats with the collar?" my response at the time (this was somewhat pre-zoo, where i was exceptionally drawn to animals but did not know there was a sexual stigma that went along with that, pre sexual awakening as it were) was "well, why do you wear that tie pin? you dont have to either". i figured that people my age were wearing WORSE things, plus anyone who knew me would say that the collar just 'fit right'.but i do recall the dreaded collar tan... *facepalm* after spending 2 weeks in hawaii wearing just swim trunks and a collar lemmie tell you i had quite the tan line!i miss the 'old days' when your age allowed you to get away with more daring choices like that. in the professional world wearing a collar to work would get you written up at best. its sad, too... i didn't appreciate the freedom i had to make that choice until i lost it. i still have all my old collars (yes, i had many). i had good quality thick leather ones for formal occasions, i had my nylon blue one that was my everyday collar, various water collars, one i wore for hiking because it was lightweight, and one very nice studded one i got from a past human partner. I miss wearing them and do often think of taking it back up again. i just came to fear what others could do to me once i saw what was possible via human brutality and admit i've been spooked ever since.but party on, fellow collar-wearers! hopefully i'll rejoin the ranks again some day!
I wore a collar petty much 24/7 when I was younger... and agree waht a shame it is that we can't keep on getting away with it in most cases. I stopped about six months ago as I'm getting up there in my university education and professionality really plays an important role on my options now. I don't understand why others can't see a nice formal collar as professional :S. I'm limited to wearing it while at home and out doing leisure things *sigh*.I like that idea of wearing a pendant on your collar though, along with a tag even.... Hmmm....
I want a collar. I often take my dogs and wear his when he isn't using it. It feels comfortable, so comfortable that I often forget it is there. But I've only worn it inside. There is a site online that makes custom collars meant for humans, and I'm going to order one from there eventually. That collar I would wear only when I do not have to be "professional"
You all have gotten me interested in this collar-wearing deal, and, hopefully with some extra cash coming in around this time of year, I can get one of those Zeta pins to compliment this, which is what seems to be the best match for my "fashion" style. My only concern is the collar being too thick to hold the pin in place...Ah well. If that's the end result I can always put the pin on something like my messenger bag.
I'm not to crazy about the leather ones. But I still wear a my doggie collar, and I'm in my 40s.
QUOTE (secret_admirer @ Dec 11 2008, 06:01 PM) You all have gotten me interested in this collar-wearing deal, and, hopefully with some extra cash coming in around this time of year, I can get one of those Zeta pins to compliment this, which is what seems to be the best match for my "fashion" style. My only concern is the collar being too thick to hold the pin in place...Ah well. If that's the end result I can always put the pin on something like my messenger bag. I would be not get the zeta pin, but get the pendant that has a hole in it so you can put a ring it to hang on the collar. Most of the time the collars come with the ring, if not you can get a real small key ring to hook onto the collar.
QUOTE (Muttlieclue @ Dec 11 2008, 07:02 PM) I would be not get the zeta pin, but get the pendant that has a hole in it so you can put a ring it to hang on the collar. Most of the time the collars come with the ring, if not you can get a real small key ring to hook onto the collar. An even better idea.Hooray for the Mutt!
or if you cant find a small keyring, any petco/petsmart/petland has one of those lasertag engraving machines. if you purchase tokens (or just ask the cashier nicely) they have tag rings, and usually more than they need.and speaking of engraved tags, i've always worn a tag with the name of my dog on it. since my collar days are somewhat rare now i keep the tag on my keychain. Its a nice reminder during work to reach down and feel the bone-shaped tag and get the warm fuzzies knowing who you'll be going home to at the end of the day.you all have definitely re-kindled my desire to wear my collar 24/7 again. the trick now is how to re-introduce it to colleagues and staff, since i came into my current workplace post-collar. when you come in wearing it they tend to just accept it as a package. So thanks all for reminding me to find myself!
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QUOTE (secret_admirer @ Dec 11 2008, 08:37 PM) QUOTE (Muttlieclue @ Dec 11 2008, 07:02 PM) I would be not get the zeta pin, but get the pendant that has a hole in it so you can put a ring it to hang on the collar. Most of the time the collars come with the ring, if not you can get a real small key ring to hook onto the collar. An even better idea.Hooray for the Mutt! You are welcome, and the reason for my name, Mutt, I'm a dog at heart, mine, and soul. And the small key ring, you might be able to get one or a couple from your vets. The ones some use to hang dog tags on. The vets may buy bulk boxes of them. Just an idea.
QUOTE (buckup @ Dec 12 2008, 02:32 PM) or if you cant find a small keyring, any petco/petsmart/petland has one of those lasertag engraving machines. if you purchase tokens (or just ask the cashier nicely) they have tag rings, and usually more than they need.and speaking of engraved tags, i've always worn a tag with the name of my dog on it. since my collar days are somewhat rare now i keep the tag on my keychain. Its a nice reminder during work to reach down and feel the bone-shaped tag and get the warm fuzzies knowing who you'll be going home to at the end of the day.you all have definitely re-kindled my desire to wear my collar 24/7 again. the trick now is how to re-introduce it to colleagues and staff, since i came into my current workplace post-collar. when you come in wearing it they tend to just accept it as a package. So thanks all for reminding me to find myself! When I started my job a few years ago, I was not really wearing a collar full time, like I am now. So I wore it one day to work, and got a lot of comments about, told them it was just something different, something to break up thing around here. Next day was not as bad, and then the next even less. And now it is just a normal thing for everyone at work. But I tell you, if I forget to wear, they let me know about it, " Where the fuck is your collar dog, or some say bitch ?" So it is pretty much an ongoing joke now for over 3 years now. Even the owner of the company stops, asks, " what's the deal with the collar?" Told him, "For people like you to ask questions " He said, "I fucking figured you'd say something like that." He laughs and leaves. Every once in a while now, someone will crack a joke about it, and we all have a laugh. But I keep on wearing it..Buckup... hope this may help you out with anything you might need to start wearing it again. I'm kinda like an Alpha dog, I'll jump right in to things, and lead the way. Weather any one follows or not .
QUOTE (Skyrune @ Dec 10 2008, 02:51 PM) QUOTE (Bazeque @ Dec 10 2008, 12:42 AM) Hmm, I have never heard of these pins or charms? What are they? And how many people do actually wear them? The zeta symbol has been more or less adapted by the zoo/beast community as a "mark" of sorts for someone who is in the lifestyle. Besides looking really cool, it's subtle enough that your average person wouldn't know what it meant, but someone who is a zoo would be able to recognize someone else who's a zoo if they spotted someone wearing the zeta sign.The other common mark for the zoo community is a paw print, but this tends to be a bit generic...I mean anyone who likes dogs can wear a paw print, that doesn't really tell you how much they like their animal. A combination of the two looks nice but again, people will ask what the symbols mean.Things like stickers, decals and shirts have all been suggested. But the pin and pendant are very good choices because you can wear one and get noticed by fellow zoos without drawing undo attention.Plus it would be a kick to wear something that displays your choice openly in public without fear of consequence. People wear things like peace signs and Yin-Yang symbols all the time, for instance. Has anyone considered just wearing a pin from your local Zoo? It'd be even more subtle than a zeta pin, but it would actually have the words "Houston Zoo", or "Calgary Zoo", or whatever on it! If you don't support those kinds of zoos... ebay? They've got'em for $0.99 and up.The downside is... lotsa people love zoos(& aquariums) If someone else was zooey and asked the smile would probably put it all together though. The upside is they have practically unlimited deniability
That's a good idea, lilshyone. There's actually a zoo just outside the city I live in...maybe I'll check out their gift shop.
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Okies... well I went to the Zoo today...People are so immature... we were watching the Mandrills when one of the males mounted another.. people with their kids were acting like 10 year olds like they'd never seen sex before. I could watch primates all day.. I love watching them groom each other and how they care for one another.On the way out I stopped at the gift shop and bought a necklace and a pendant.. the paw one came on a necklace.. the heart-shaped "Houston Zoo" one did not. They cost about $6 each. If anyone in Houston wants one I could go back and pick up half a dozen more... for $9/each I will mail them wherever... or if you have a male dog that needs a bitch i'll gladly bring extras with me for free just PM
That paw-print one is awesome! I'd love to have one of those.
I wanted to see just how many people would pick up on the word Zeta so I used it in a user name on a dating site. About 3000 people looked at that profile and only knew what it meant. I also read somewhere that some people are using the symbol in the title of their post as a way of letting others know of their interest.
I forgot to mention that the paw pendant is also a "mood ring".. the packaging says Purple means passion...
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I haven't really looked around much, but I think I saw a woman at the mall with a zeta pin. It's a good thing most people don't know what that means, but seriously a pin isn't the best way to covertly express this, since pins are so eye-catching.
QUOTE (misty57 @ Dec 15 2008, 03:10 AM) I wanted to see just how many people would pick up on the word Zeta so I used it in a user name on a dating site. About 3000 people looked at that profile and only knew what it meant. I also read somewhere that some people are using the symbol in the title of their post as a way of letting others know of their interest. Yeah I can understand that. Thing about sites like those is you have to be discreet. Very, very much so; Unlike here (where pretty much all the members share the common interest), the majority of people don't join dating services looking for people into zoo/beast. And due to the legal issues, you can't really specify anything in a profile.One reason I like the idea of a pendant or ring; it's subtle and wouldn't attract the wrong kind of attention.Then again, I wonder just how commonly-known the zeta sign is in the community. I'd imagine there are a number people out there into zoo/beast who didn't know the significance of the symbol. I didn't know about it until I joined BF.
QUOTE (Skyrune @ Dec 15 2008, 11:48 AM) Then again, I wonder just how commonly-known the zeta sign is in the community. I'd imagine there are a number people out there into zoo/beast who didn't know the significance of the symbol. I didn't know about it until I joined BF. I'm in the same boat as you. If you had asked me what the Zeta symbol meant about a year ago I would've given you a puzzled look.Still, that can work in our favor. If you know what the symbol means it's a good indication you've explored your zoophilia to some degree, and as always, it's obscure enough to avoid garnering too much attention. I'm sure most people would accept the explanation, "It's my old fraternity's/sorority's logo" if they asked.
QUOTE Then again, I wonder just how commonly-known the zeta sign is in the community. I'd imagine there are a number people out there into zoo/beast who didn't know the significance of the symbol. I didn't know about it until I joined BF.same here.
Well, I have one of those paw print ones on the way (thanks lilshyone!), and I plan on wearing it openly. We'll see if anyone notices.
QUOTE (Skyrune @ Dec 15 2008, 10:48 AM)Then again, I wonder just how commonly-known the zeta sign is in the community. I'd imagine there are a number people out there into zoo/beast who didn't know the significance of the symbol. I didn't know about it until I joined BF.I've had to explain to a couple of zoophiles what it means after showing them my pin. They were plenty into the scene, they had just never encountered the zeta before that. When asked, I don't even tell people the name of the letter, lest they Google it or somesuch. Doing so won't turn up anything about zoophilia on the first page, but it could lead them to Wikipedia, wherein it's occasionally listed on either of the following pages as having an association with zoophilia.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zetahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeta_(disambiguation)#OtherEvery so often I'll go on there and delete anything that's popped up zoo-wise, though that may be unnecessary as there is so much symbolism attached to the letter.A few days ago I wore a collar and a fuzzy tail into work for absolutely no reason, and everyone got a kick out of it. A few people called me a furry (which I am, but I denied it), but most just thought it was the coolest thing ever. I may have to start doing that more often.
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QUOTE (secret_admirer @ Dec 15 2008, 01:47 PM) QUOTE (Skyrune @ Dec 15 2008, 11:48 AM) Then again, I wonder just how commonly-known the zeta sign is in the community. I'd imagine there are a number people out there into zoo/beast who didn't know the significance of the symbol. I didn't know about it until I joined BF. I'm in the same boat as you. If you had asked me what the Zeta symbol meant about a year ago I would've given you a puzzled look.Still, that can work in our favor. If you know what the symbol means it's a good indication you've explored your zoophilia to some degree, and as always, it's obscure enough to avoid garnering too much attention. I'm sure most people would accept the explanation, "It's my old fraternity's/sorority's logo" if they asked. I can't begin to tell you how many people I have been around in the past years of me wearing my collar, with the Zeta pendant hanging off on the front of it, have it, and no one yet has said to me that they knew what it was. I've been asked many many times what it was, i tell them it was given to me, to hang on my collar, and that i liked it. I've been all over the country wearing my collar w/ Zeta and no one got pissed about me wearing it, they all laugh, and joke with me, calling me dog, dogboy, bitch, and so on.
QUOTE (KitsArriet @ Dec 15 2008, 07:21 PM) QUOTE (Skyrune @ Dec 15 2008, 10:48 AM)Then again, I wonder just how commonly-known the zeta sign is in the community. I'd imagine there are a number people out there into zoo/beast who didn't know the significance of the symbol. I didn't know about it until I joined BF.I've had to explain to a couple of zoophiles what it means after showing them my pin. They were plenty into the scene, they had just never encountered the zeta before that. When asked, I don't even tell people the name of the letter, lest they Google it or somesuch. Doing so won't turn up anything about zoophilia on the first page, but it could lead them to Wikipedia, wherein it's occasionally listed on either of the following pages as having an association with zoophilia.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zetahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeta_(disambiguation)#OtherEvery so often I'll go on there and delete anything that's popped up zoo-wise, though that may be unnecessary as there is so much symbolism attached to the letter.A few days ago I wore a collar and a fuzzy tail into work for absolutely no reason, and everyone got a kick out of it. A few people called me a (which I am, but I denied it), but most just thought it was the coolest thing ever. I may have to start doing that more often. That is the ticket with most things like this. Most people think it is funny, that you are some kind of looney toon. After some time, mostly everyone at work doesn't even say anything about it anymore. I get a couple looks time to time at Walmart, and other businesses I go to. Along with my Big Dog Sex T-shirts that I have... I had a woman at work asked me where I bought the collar at. She said her son has been bugging her to get him one, she said it was some kind of fad going on in schools that kids were wearing collars. She talked about it several time about getting him one, and he was bugging the crap out of her for it..
I'm planning on trying to make a zeta design in plexyglass for the lid of this box I made, I'll let everyone know how it goes.
I wear one at everyone con I go to. Some are also zoos and you can even buy zeta stuff at some of the cons.
And you can also explain that "zeta" pin means you belong to something related to "six", like "class six", "group six" of some organization. "Zeta" can mean "sixth".
I have to agree that zeta pins are a bit too obvious. True , most people won't know what it is , and even if they knew they won't make the connection but most of the friends I wouldn't want to know(from different reasons) and some of my brighter teacher might puzzle it all together.That being said sometimes , especially at parties or when going out I do wear a leather collar with a paw on the side . Since everyone knows I love wolves and most of the time I wear biker leather they don't find it strange . Some told me it fits well with my hair (almost waist-length )I saw a zeta symbol once at a seminar in my college , but she was too far and place too crowded to start a discussion. Not to mention I could have been wrong.
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QUOTE (Darkwrath @ Dec 26 2008, 01:02 AM) I have to agree that zeta pins are a bit too obvious. True , most people won't know what it is , and even if they knew they won't make the connection but most of the friends I wouldn't want to know(from different reasons) and some of my brighter teacher might puzzle it all together.That being said sometimes , especially at parties or when going out I do wear a leather collar with a paw on the side . Since everyone knows I love wolves and most of the time I wear biker leather they don't find it strange . Some told me it fits well with my hair (almost waist-length )I saw a zeta symbol once at a seminar in my college , but she was too far and place too crowded to start a discussion. Not to mention I could have been wrong. Good observation, Darkwrath. I think someone who wears a certain style or look could go about having a pin or pendant easier than others; That is, someone at your workplace or school who practically never wears any kind of jewelry but suddenly shows up with a strange symbol around their neck or on their shirt...that's going to attract attention.Whereas someone who typically wears necklaces/pendants, always has a ring on, etc. probably wouldn't get a second glance. I'm not a big jewelry guy but I do wear surf accessories pretty much every day, so no one in my everyday life would know any difference. Same with you with the leatherwear.Seeing someone wear it at college might be a little tricky; when I first heard the word "Zeta" I immediately thought of a college fraternity or sorority (you know, words like "Alpha", "Beta" and such). The person wearing it could have just been proud of her dorm, ya never know. That's the tough part of it. With so few people in the lifestyle - and fewer still knowing about the significance of the symbol - the hard part is wanting the zeta sign to be well enough known that zoo/beast lovers can recognize one another, but not so well known that everybody else will know.I think that's the reason I like the zeta over the paw print, though. Every now and then I'll be behind someone in traffic who has one of those vanity license plate frames with the paws all over it. It would be nice to think they may be "one of us"...but realistically it's probably just your typical animal lover.
My buddy just gave me the OK to post the rest of the finished pins and pendants. The price will be $65 for either a pin or pendant and there is an option to have the background black enameled for $10 more.Anyone interested in getting one of these can PM me and I can give you the email address for the guy who is making these so you can place your order.Pic 1 of 4: Standard Zeta Pin
Pic 2 of 4: Zeta Pin Paw Print & Horse Shoe
Pic 3 of 4: Zeta Pendant, Horse Shoe
Pic 4 of 4: Zeta Pendant, Paw Print
Wow! Nicely done, hightailin' Those look great.Nice detail, too.
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I created a couple of T-Shirts with a zeta symbol. I have a picture of the white shirt online (see my signature for link). I also made a more detailed zeta tee, but I haven't posted pictures of it yet. In the spring and summer, I wear it regularly, hoping to meet another zoo-friendly person.
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