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Posted by zoolove1985 on August 6th 2008, 18:53

i happened to dl a vid...and i was horrified at the way this dog looked!, it seemed to be a great dane, but it was heavily emaciated, there was this huge bone sticking up on the top of it's head, you could clearly see every single vertebrae on it's spine, all of his ribs were poking out...the dog looked like it hadn't eaten in weeks!....i couldn't watch it, i could hardly believe this video came from a "zoo" site.....whoever made this film, all they cared about was money...ticks me off what people do to animals...

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Posted by tundra on August 6th 2008, 21:49

That is just horrible. I can't believe that someone would do that to a dog, especialy a "zoo" I can only hope someone would recognize who it is and turn them in, and atleast have the dog tested and treated at the very least. There are a few things that can make a dog thin like that and not be due to neglect. But either way i would not star him in vids in that condition. As for watching vids with dogs/lovers being abused no i can't stand teh sight of it. I can't even watch vids where it looks like the dog/lover is not a willing participant, and most of the big "pay" vids i can't watch as alot of them only seem to care about money. There are a few good ones out there though. but the second i see abuse or force i turn it off and delete it. That is one thing i can never understand is why someone would hurt/abuse/force thier pet like that.Sorry to ramble but this is one thing i feel very strongly about.Your love for your lover no matter what species it is, weither human, dog, horse, or what ever it should be based on pure true love, and they should never be treated as a sex toy.Tundra

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Posted by missywolf on August 7th 2008, 0:12

There are people like us, who truly love their pet lovers...and then there are those who only make videos of animal sex to make money.

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Posted by LonewolfZeta on August 7th 2008, 1:53

Unfortunate but true. Very few commercially available videos seem to take the animal's wants and needs into account. It's usually about getting off or getting paid.Also, hiya Tundra

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Posted by anal1234 on August 7th 2008, 2:38

son of a they should be arrested for doing that to animals

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Posted by LonewolfZeta on August 7th 2008, 3:07

How dare you use the word bitch in a derogatory manner!

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Posted by zoolove1985 on August 7th 2008, 3:25

QUOTE (LonewolfZeta @ Aug 7 2008, 02:07 AM) How dare you use the word bitch in a derogatory manner! LOL...yeah! what lonewolfzeta said!

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Posted by missywolf on August 7th 2008, 3:28

QUOTE (LonewolfZeta @ Aug 6 2008, 09:07 PM) How dare you use the word bitch in a derogatory manner! ha!but anal, don't you think that's a little bit hypocritical to say? There are people who think that about everybody who has sex with animals, not caring if they love the animals or not. If they jail those people, they will jail all of us!

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Posted by LonewolfZeta on August 7th 2008, 3:35

BTW Missy, I wish you would change avatars. That one makes me horny!

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Posted by missywolf on August 7th 2008, 3:41

I have a folder full of potential avatars that I cropped to fit that size. I've just been to lazy to change it. but since you asked, I'm going to now.

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Posted by LonewolfZeta on August 7th 2008, 3:43

Actually, I was kidding. That was very seductive. I liked it alot

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Posted by st benard on August 7th 2008, 3:49

QUOTE (zoolove1985 @ Aug 7 2008, 02:53 AM) i happened to dl a vid...and i was horrified at the way this dog looked!, it seemed to be a great dane, but it was heavily emaciated, there was this huge bone sticking up on the top of it's head, you could clearly see every single vertebrae on it's spine, all of his ribs were poking out...the dog looked like it hadn't eaten in weeks!....i couldn't watch it, i could hardly believe this video came from a "zoo" site.....whoever made this film, all they cared about was money...ticks me off what people do to animals... Unfortunately this sort of abuse tends to happen quite frequently. There are too many individuals out there that are only inserted in making a buck. They only think about the sex act, ( even when the sex act is obviously forced, IE, animal abuse ) and they care nothing about the poor animal or the female recipient so long as she can get it to expose it's penis. But having said that there are many voyeurs out there who only look at the sex organ and play their little mental games with themselves and never look at the whole picture.

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Posted by missywolf on August 7th 2008, 4:18

and whats even worse is people see this kind of stuff and think bad about all zoophiles/beasties!

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Posted by murphy01 on August 7th 2008, 4:43

I fucking hate those people!!!!!!!

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Posted by murphy01 on August 7th 2008, 5:29

oops sorry thought there was auto censor like in other forums

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Posted by TheCaretaker on August 7th 2008, 5:51

just to throw in my own personal opinion, for what it's worth I always wonder when I see a clip or a picture where a woman is dildoging. Is the the dog actually enjoying it or is he being forced to participate?

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Posted by sexybeast244 on August 7th 2008, 6:56

That is really horrible.I really hate people that number one, only buy a dog for the sex, and number two, no1 and for money.People like that don't deserve to have a pet at all.

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Posted by Iratnik on August 7th 2008, 7:13

it is an unfortunate reality. and it's part of the reason that I work as a vet tech and volunteer my time at the animal shelter locally to try and give a helping aw to assist those animals who truly deserve a shot at a good and happy life with loving and caring owners. whether they be zoo's or not. every being deserves a happy life.

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Posted by thewerewolf1990 on August 7th 2008, 7:18

It's people like that. That give us REAL zoophiles a bad name. I mean they would probably kill the animal if could not putout. And that's NOT what being a zoophile is about. When people here zoophile they think of someone who just animals because the animal is like a child. And that makes people think of us as pedophiles and rapers HELLO teeth and claws/hoves. I just hope people can look past these and see that us real zoos are good people.

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Posted by Onasi on August 7th 2008, 7:33

I truly hate to see any form of abuse towards animals especially in the spectrum of proported zoo pics/videos. I hope people like that get what they deserve.

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Posted by fluffyd13 on August 7th 2008, 7:40

No way in hell would I watch something like that, ew. I am a proponent of the death penalty for animal abusers.

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Posted by anal1234 on August 7th 2008, 16:36

QUOTE (missywolf @ Aug 7 2008, 02:28 AM) QUOTE (LonewolfZeta @ Aug 6 2008, 09:07 PM) How dare you use the word bitch in a derogatory manner! ha!but anal, don't you think that's a little bit hypocritical to say? There are people who think that about everybody who has sex with animals, not caring if they love the animals or not. If they jail those people, they will jail all of us! no im not talking about the sex im talking about how they starve the dog thats not rightthey should take care of the dog by feeding it

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Posted by Hightailin on August 7th 2008, 19:09

Dogs are not the only ones abused in commercial beasty porn; horses are abused on a higher rate than their smaller counterparts mainly due to their size. Most all the commercially produced films I have seen the stallion just stands there while the chick does her thing for 10 minutes and then some fake cum shot is produced. I do not believe I have ever seen a stallion maintain an erection lasting longer than 5 minutes. A horse’s penis when erect feels and looks pretty much just like a human’s penis would … and what I mean is that it feels hard not soft and flaccid. The reason the majority of stallions in 98% of commercial "zoo" porn are flaccid and just dropped would not be because they are interested in what is going on or just enjoying the attention of the actor … it is because they are drugged. There is a little drug out there called acepromozine. the problem is that this drug is very easy for the producers to get a hold so that is why it is used in pretty much every film involving stallions that has been made ... The main reasons it is used is one, it keeps the actors safe .. As stallions are VERY dangerous animals and most of the people who are acting with them have no idea what they are doing in the first place. Secondly it keeps the stallion so he looks interested to the unknowing viewer. If someone were to do the things that are seen in these vids to a stallion who has not been drugged the stallion would completely lose interest and there would be no film (they do not respond to the same stimuli as humans do) or the stallion would severely injure the actor and or film crew as continued or forceful manipulation of his genitals would really piss him off. In my opinion the horses featured in these vids are clearly being raped. There is ZERO consent on their side and they are being harmed in the process. Acepromazine has some nasty side effects that are both mental and physical on the stallion or gelding it is being used one. Some examples of its effects are stated below : Generally a tranquilized male horse (i.e. geldings too) will relax their penis allowing it to "drop" as they enter the tranquilized plane - generally within the first five minutes after receiving the tranquilizer.The trouble is, with paralysis, they don't withdraw the penis once the tranquilizer wears off! Again - I must stress - this can happen with geldings as well as stallions, so Acepromazine is to be used as sparingly as possible with all male horses.Acepromazine use may result in permanent paralysis of the penile retractor muscle in males - geldings included - and while it is fairly rare, if it happens once to your stallion it will be once too often.Once there is permanent paralysis, the skin of the penis will dry out, crack, and pathogens will gain access with the likely result of gangrene. This will in all likelihood necessitate amputation of the penis, and a stallion without a penis is not much of a stallion...This is rape and abuse plain and simple and should not be tolerated at all.

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Posted by raskolnikov252 on August 7th 2008, 20:27

Sounds really disgusting and mean. Sounds like they picked up some stray off the street. Aside from the cruelty to the dog, am concerned about the health of the lady. I really do not see how this could be arousing at all.As for the comment aboout dildogging, not sure how the dog would not be consent if he is hard. But maybe there is something I do not understand. In any case, I am somewhat new, a bit of a lurker, but wanted to register my disgust at what was described.

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Posted by manabouttown on August 7th 2008, 21:12

I watched one recently here on the free downloads page of a bloke and two mini-mares,the first one he did was being restrained and was not what i would call enjoying the experience as it kept trying to get round to him , its body language ears etc was "please dont"...the other mare in contrast was winking and having the time of her life !!!!

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Posted by missywolf on August 7th 2008, 21:50

QUOTE (anal1234 @ Aug 7 2008, 10:36 AM) QUOTE (missywolf @ Aug 7 2008, 02:28 AM) QUOTE (LonewolfZeta @ Aug 6 2008, 09:07 PM) How dare you use the word bitch in a derogatory manner! ha!but anal, don't you think that's a little bit hypocritical to say? There are people who think that about everybody who has sex with animals, not caring if they love the animals or not. If they jail those people, they will jail all of us! no im not talking about the sex im talking about how they starve the dog thats not rightthey should take care of the dog by feeding it oh I see. sorry for misunderstanding you.

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Posted by missywolf on August 7th 2008, 21:58

QUOTE (manabouttown @ Aug 7 2008, 03:12 PM) I watched one recently here on the free downloads page of a bloke and two mini-mares,the first one he did was being restrained and was not what i would call enjoying the experience as it kept trying to get round to him , its body language ears etc was "please dont"...the other mare in contrast was winking and having the time of her life !!!! this must have been one of the days I missed on here. People need to understand the animals body language before they ever attempt anything sexual.If they don't like it, do not continue. but if they love it, give them what they way! The people who say animals can not consent are those who do not understand them. Animals can consent, but they will also tell you no when they mean NO! Some are just too nice/submissive to fight back. but you can see in their expressions/body language whether they are enjoying it or not.I'm going to go find this video that you are talking about and see what I think of it.

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Posted by Skyrune on August 7th 2008, 22:03

No way, I wouldn't watch. Of course not. To me, it runs in a similar vein to people who use animals in racing, then just give up on (neglect) them outright once their money-making days are over. Race horses or Greyhounds are what come to mind.And yes, it's terrible when people group those of us with zoo/beast interests into the same category as people who abuse or neglect animals. Such is the society we live in.

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Posted by zndxxx on August 7th 2008, 22:36

hmmm ... nah ! i dont support bestiality !

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Posted by siroe on August 8th 2008, 5:27

omfg! that is just frikin cruel! they starve it for weeks and then try to get money off it in some videos??? i would have shot them, right then and there. then fed that dog. animals are not right to be abused. they didn't do anything to you. so why give unneeded and cruel punishment? if i ever find out who the owners of that dog are, ima choke them. i dont care if its in public or in a police station, i will choke them. and if you can, plz report that video.

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Posted by missywolf on August 8th 2008, 5:50

QUOTE Dogs are not the only ones abused in commercial beasty porn; horses are abused on a higher rate than their smaller counterparts mainly due to their size...Oh my! This makes me sad. Enough to not want to view horse material anymore. Sure enough, wikipedia discusses it (not mentioning beasty stuff, but veterinary.) acepromazineIt can cause paraphimosis which is "a medical condition where the foreskin becomes trapped behind the glans penis, and cannot be pulled back to its normal flaccid position covering the glans penis" In this case foreskin = sheath.

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Posted by ZetterGRD on August 8th 2008, 8:48

QUOTE (TheCaretaker @ Aug 6 2008, 11:51 PM)just to throw in my own personal opinion, for what it's worth I always wonder when I see a clip or a picture where a woman is dildoging. Is the the dog actually enjoying it or is he being forced to participate?Most likely forced, any manner of dildogging is not a natural sexual activity for canines. Since most porn films are produced with little care for the well-being of the animal, I'm sure the dogs would rather be left alone than handled in that way.QUOTE (raskolnikov252 @ Aug 7 2008, 02:27 PM)As for the comment aboout dildogging, not sure how the dog would not be consent if he is hard. But maybe there is something I do not understand. In any case, I am somewhat new, a bit of a lurker, but wanted to register my disgust at what was described.A dog having an erection is by no means an indicator of consent, and often isn't even a sexual reaction at all. It is mostly an automatic response to physical sensation around the base of the knot, and usually won't subside for a while even if the dog has no sexual interest.Also worth noting is that dogs neutered as puppies still get erections all the time when clearly they have no sex drive.

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Posted by doggowar on August 8th 2008, 9:23

QUOTE (zndxxx @ Aug 7 2008, 09:36 PM) hmmm ... nah ! i dont support bestiality ! Isn't the ending quip to that......"thank goodness my dog does though!"sorry, just an attempt to interject some humor in an otherwise sad and depressing subject.

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Posted by tyciol on August 8th 2008, 22:30

I will watch anything legal. Watching something is not immoral. If you were paying for the films that'd be wrong though, you should only pay for stuff that's moral, but really I don't pay for shit regardless so I'm never at risk of that, heh.I hold the same opinion for ALL media.

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Posted by LongThinDane on August 8th 2008, 23:34

The short answer is no. If I knew a video had activity that fit my personal definition of abuse, I would not download or watch it.LTD

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Posted by Hightailin on August 10th 2008, 3:55

All of this stuff is quite sad. Animals in these sort of productions should be loved not abused. This is probably the main reason why I do not enjoy commercial animal porn at all. Unfortunately there is so much of it out there and many people do not care or know what they are looking at to know that it is abuse. There is nothing that breaks my heart faster than seeing a horse or other animal in an abusive situation. In my opinion the commercial animal porn industry is one of two major things that give zoos a bad reputation.

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Posted by 50toto on August 10th 2008, 9:00

People Hate what they don't understand, influenced by the fascist gov't for too long.

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Posted by wicked mutt on August 10th 2008, 12:41

poor dog straved/imaciated...well if the dog was being starved that bad i wouldnt watch..if the dog has something phisically wrong,high mentabilism(great danes are naturally rather thin) I would ignore it,till i know the story morei agree that pornagraphic photos on the animal showing consent,pleasure..without drugs,mistreatment or dehydration should deffently be illigal...it should be more raw,and less pretty(or fake)....some dogs do so interest(not allways wanted by the human)..but for sex go by the animal terms more

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Posted by cohort on August 10th 2008, 22:42

It could be unintentional or it could be on purpose. There are people who find animal abuse erotic. Whatever the reason for it, I'd put that right up with crush and insertion videos... inhumane. You can't even talk about arousal or non-arousal in the same breath as animal abuse.People stink.

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Posted by squad917 on August 10th 2008, 23:28

Abuse has no place in this world, not just in vids. People who abuse their pets(or other humans for that fact) deserve to be locked up and have the key thrown away. Any sort of abuse is a highly outrageous act that should have some type of action taken up against it.

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Posted by monte overman on August 11th 2008, 1:21

Dogs are affectionate and loyal by nature, and they deserve to be cared for properly and respected - and by all means let them have as much sex with humans as they want!It is very sad to hear about the methods used to make videos with horses. I never could see much point in watching most of the footage, and now that I know about how the horses are drugged - risking permenent injury - I am disgusted and angered. The worst part about all of this is that this sort of horrible abuse is presented as an example when people consider the integity of a person harboring bestial tendencies.So, to answer the question "would I watch a video which displays animal abuse/cruely", no, no, no! That sort of thing makes me very angry!!

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Posted by Hoofin on August 11th 2008, 6:17

It's people like these that make people think bestiality is bad... sad thing is if they get caught, which is what they deserve, it hurts the rest of us. Yet if they get away with it, they keep hurting the animals.

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Posted by de_vee_de on August 11th 2008, 18:31

QUOTE (Hoofin @ Aug 11 2008, 05:17 AM)It's people like these that make people think bestiality is bad... sad thing is if they get caught, which is what they deserve, it hurts the rest of us.  Yet if they get away with it, they keep hurting the animals.I agree Hoofin, it is people like this who should be shunned not people who LOVE their animals

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Posted by Hightailin on August 11th 2008, 19:23

The best way to hurt them is to spread the word about what they do. The more informed people are the better the chance of them not buying material from these abusers. I agree completely that these people give real zoos a bad name. It is a sad world we live in.

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