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This is a good question, that I feel I must put forth.I am a male, first off. Second, I am attracted to male & female dogs.Now, in my entire life, I have never been attracted to another male human. Only the females of my species.Now, my question is, those of you like myself, that will gender switch between dogs regularly, do you think that makes you bi/gay? (Not that there is anything morally wrong with either.)I've noted that most people don't seem to feel that it does make them gay. The gender thing seems to go out the window when we are with animals. I wonder if that's because dogs are so damn capable of pure, unconditional love.... Anyone else have any feelings on this? Or is this just stupid?
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No, I think it's a great question, and I've thought about it myself. Beyond a few fantasies, I really don't have interest in sex with other male humans. But I could see myself letting a male dog fuck me. It's not my first priority, I am mostly interested in bitches and mares. But I could jerk a male dog off, maybe give him oral (though I'm iffy on the "rusty nail" taste I've read about here), and what I previously mentioned.For some reason, it's different with an animal - to me, too. I don't think in terms of gay (not that there's anything wrong with that ) and straight when we're talking about zoophilia.
The question is that are these "sexual orientations" species-dependent?If not,then there's nothing wrong about it to use these terms in zoophile relationships.I,for example,consider myself a "heterosexual zoo-exclusive male" and don't have problems with it
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QUOTE (BitchFool @ Mar 24 2004, 01:41 PM) The question is that are these "sexual orientations" species-dependent?If not,then there's nothing wrong about it to use these terms in zoophile relationships.I,for example,consider myself a "heterosexual zoo-exclusive male" and don't have problems with it I don't think it's wrong to think of gay and straight in terms of cross-species sex. It just doesn't enter my mind.
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I'm getting married real soon, and am mostly with male dogs. I dont worry about if I'm bi/gay, to me all that should be inportant is if you the human/dog loves you regardless of gender.
QUOTE (sjpor @ Mar 24 2004, 07:52 PM) I don't think it's wrong to think of gay and straight in terms of cross-species sex. It just doesn't enter my mind. Oh,don't take "wrong" literally,I just didn't find the right word for it.
QUOTE (BitchFool @ Mar 24 2004, 01:58 PM) QUOTE (sjpor @ Mar 24 2004, 07:52 PM) I don't think it's wrong to think of gay and straight in terms of cross-species sex. It just doesn't enter my mind. Oh,don't take "wrong" literally,I just didn't find the right word for it.
Yeah, I was finding trouble wording it right also. I've got no qualms about it either way.... But I thought it interesting to point out that many people don't make any connection with gay / interspecies mating.God, I sound like a behaviouralist or something...
A complex question. I believe you are what you feel you are. But let me look in the dictionary:It says that gay is distinguished from homosexual primarily by the emphasis it places on the cultural and social aspects of homosexuality as opposed to sexual practice. In accordance with that... gay would not be the right word.On the other hand, homosexual is of, relating to, or having a sexual orientation to persons of the same sex... and most definitions of person refer specifically to a human... so homosexual would (probably) not apply either.So, what would the right word? Maybe we should invent one?
I often use the term omniphile when i refer to myself in the zooish sense, and straight when it comes to humans, since being online ive seen more subcatagories of Zoophiles than i can recal at the moment, some are strictly K9, some strictly equine etc. so i came up with Omniphile, that doesnt mean i'll mess around with anything, just means if the opportunity arises i wouldnt say "no way" outright, be it a male animal, or female animal. Besides, i think George Cloony did a bang up job as Sparky the gay dog on South Park Guns
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QUOTE (Gunslinger @ Mar 25 2004, 12:08 AM) I often use the term omniphile when i refer to myself in the zooish sense, and straight when it comes to humans, since being online ive seen more subcatagories of Zoophiles than i can recal at the moment, some are strictly K9, some strictly equine etc. so i came up with Omniphile, that doesnt mean i'll mess around with anything, just means if the opportunity arises i wouldnt say "no way" outright, be it a male animal, or female animal. <snip> Great... i love that word! Thanks!I just found out I'm "omniphile" too!
(foxtrot Posted: Mar 24 2004, 12:22 PM) QUOTE Now, my question is, those of you like myself, that will gender switch between dogs regularly, do you think that makes you bi/gay? (Not that there is anything morally wrong with either.)I find this topic interesting. Without regard to labels and exact definitions, if gay/bi refers to being sexually interested in the same/both sex(es) then species may not be a factor. If there were beings from another planet, not human, but distingishable by gender, would you be gay/bi engaging in sex with the same/both genger(s)?It should go without saying that we're not speaking of moral issues (or we wouldn't be here), but rather if engaging in a sexual relationship with the same sex animal makes you gay or bi (respectively). Coming from a straight man, my guess would be, yes it does.However, being as open minded as I am (and I think we all agree).........what the hell difference does it make. Live and let live..........worry about the rest of the world's sh*t and hang-ups later...........MUCH LATER.Very interesting topic. Thanks Foxtrot.
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Okkkkkk but what if you are bisexual with humans and strictly straight with dogs????? lol Wish i could find the words to express how it angers me that we (the world) feel we must label everything! Besides how bloody boring would it be if we were all the same!?!?!?!?
in regards to this great topic i have to ask a question.. hope its ok and no too much off topic..when surfing beastiality pictures how do you consider the following types of action:1) male human having sex with a female dog2) male human having sex with a male dog. Dog doing the mounting3) male human having sex with a male dog. Human doing the mounting i have seen lots of sites call all 3 types of action gay but am wondering how you guys feel about it...and to tell you the truth i was just about to start a topic about it when i saw this one, so thanx for starting a topic about it as its a very interesting subject...
QUOTE (whiskers Posted on Mar 25 2004, 06:28 AM) Okkkkkk but what if you are bisexual with humans and strictly straight with dogs????? lol Wish i could find the words to express how it angers me that we (the world) feel we must label everything! Besides how bloody boring would it be if we were all the same!?!?!?!? Yes whiskers, know what you mean. However, for the sake of discussions I guess we need labels to ID what we're talking about. It becomes sad when we use these labels to hurt each other.After some thought I have to change my position somewhat. I said b4, if you have sex with the same sex animal (for example) that would prob. mean you're gay.I think others would CALL you gay.........but maybe it's how YOU think of yourself.Straight with humans but gender switch with animals seems to be no different than me considering myself a straight man even though I have had a sexual experience with a man once in my lifetime. In my mind and interest......I'm straight but some might call me bi because of that one experience.
I'm 100% gay both with humans and well that's all for now but I will have some male dogs one day. Just don't see myself wanting to be with a female, human or not. And I think when it comes down do it, sex is sex who cares with who as long as you and the other person like it.
id say if you were with both male and female animals, youre bi, or gay if just with the males, doesnt matter which species they are, they are still male and female. but then again it doesnt matter to me, im bi with humans as well, and i dont really care about labels either, im just me. i mean yeah it can hurt when someone who doesnt understand, or who tries to be hurtful calls you gay, but then again thats their problem, the either have issues or lack understanding, and not something im going to dwell on and rethink my whole life for.
mrdjjw has it.... It isn't a question of morality... I assume everyone here is extremely tolerant, and if your not, well, wow are you ever in an odd place.It definitly doesn't seem to fit the dictionary definition, and I've personally never felt "gay", but when it comes to dogs, I draw no line <chuckle>... Although, I've always perferred females, the males are always more willing! lol...
QUOTE (DoggyBoi @ Mar 25 2004, 10:02 PM) I'm 100% gay both with humans and well that's all for now but I will have some male dogs one day. Just don't see myself wanting to be with a female, human or not. And I think when it comes down do it, sex is sex who cares with who as long as you and the other person like it. It doesn't matter who you have sex with. That's the important thing. Believe me, I don't care. But it is a curious sociological question. Damn, I don't think I spelled that right. Oh well, too lazy.
Hmmmmmmm this is an interesting topic ....I dont think anyone would agree with my views on it so normally would never express it .... well here it goes ....hope y'all dont get pissed off at me for it either but here it goes .....To me when you talk about being a gay man or a bi man basically what you are saying is that you like cock um and for the record I am bi so its all good to me The best lovers I have ever had have been Bi Sexual men and I think that is because they are so comfortable with their sexuality and people who are comfortable with their sexuality are hot between the sheets Anywho like I was saying to me when you say you are gay or bi it means you like cock....for some they like just sucking on cock for others they like the tight full feeling of cock up their ass. But society puts such a taboo on this that I feel many men can not handle this and are not fully able to enjoy how much those acts turn them on so they turn to women who like wearing strappys and like f*cking men in this manner (beams! ...hehehe) OR they turn to dogs because in their mind its a dog and there for not another man who is going to be hammering their ass....Men can't handle the social stigma that goes along with that yet if its a dog its not considered the same thing.... to me it is.... a cock is a cock be it a human cock or a dog cock..... But I am fine with however men want to see themselves in relation to that..... this was just the way I see it and I have never tried to put it into words before so this really didnt come out the way I wanted it to but as good as its going to get for right now ....
Well said, Wendy! I agree with you. There is such a stigma about guys exploring their sexuality with other guys - it's like a team sport, either you're with the gays or the straights, you can't cross the line.Well, I prefer women, and yet I think I could give a guy a blowjob. In fact, I kind of want to, but don't know if I ever will. So does that make me bi? Who knows? Who cares? I am comfortable with my sexuality, and don't give a damn about what people think, or the legality of whatever I want to do. I'm not pagan, and I realize there's a lot more to the Rede than the most well known verse, but "An ye harm none, do what ye will" is good advice, and I live by it.
Wolfie: Maybe typo, "Boy you have human sex? I do agree, why label everything. it could be that our species prefers to have everything labeled, to clarify everything.As for me, I am Bisexual Zoo Exclusive male and I am very comfortable with that.I have also cummed to realise that Zoosexuality, and Zoophilia, are very very diverse.For instance: One may be :Gay with dogs yet straight with equines.Have tastes for wet/scat from one species but not from humans or other animals.Fully prepared to go down on one species but not on others.Tends to be very much more openminded that human/human sexualities.I can't agree fully that a cock is a cock, or puss is a puss, regardless of where it's located there are great differances in shape, tastes, attraction etc. Well time for work, so gotta get going.
QUOTE (sjpor @ Mar 25 2004, 06:06 PM)Well said, Wendy! I agree with you. There is such a stigma about guys exploring their sexuality with other guys - it's like a team sport, either you're with the gays or the straights, you can't cross the line.Well, I prefer women, and yet I think I could give a guy a blowjob. In fact, I kind of want to, but don't know if I ever will. So does that make me bi? Who knows? Who cares? I am comfortable with my sexuality, and don't give a damn about what people think, or the legality of whatever I want to do. I'm not pagan, and I realize there's a lot more to the Rede than the most well known verse, but "An ye harm none, do what ye will" is good advice, and I live by it. I would say at the very most it makes you bi curious and thats it .... I'm all for people exploring their sexuality to the fullest .... I have also been told by straight men that if a woman were in the mix that it would make sucking a guys cock all the hotter because it would be turning her on and seeing that would make it all the hotter for them.... I also think that women in that particular situation help guys who are feeling a little aqward with the whole notion to feel more natural about it...... I believe that sexual gratification is as important as the air we breath and the water we drink.....it is essential to our well being and without we do not function well....... You know if there were suddenly no more men on earth and women were left to women I have no doubt in my mind that women would just turn around and start loving each other and would start to gratify themselves with other women .... I think the same is true of men ....if there were to be no more women on earth would man cease to have sexual desire? Would he cease to try to gratify himself? Will he no longer seek intimacy from beast or another human even if the only other human on earth were another man??? NO!!! I believe they would then turn to each other.... I believe we are first and formost sexual creatures with the capacity to love many things and with the ability to gratify ourselves in many ways.
QUOTE (Wolfie @ Mar 25 2004, 06:39 PM)A cock is a cock, human or dog ?? Might be for you Wendy, but not nor never in my book, and you know that. I would take a male dog, or do a male dog and suck them off for free any day, before I'd ever get paid to do a human. (we don't have a barf image) Boy I have human sex. BARF !!Did I not say ....QUOTE But I am fine with however men want to see themselves in relation to that..... this was just the way I see it So you can barf all over us humans all you want that is my opinion just as yours is your opinion.... I do not attack you or want to barf all over you for your opinions!!! ..... Which leads me to ask you if you are so repulsed by humans why even bother coming here? You seem to enjoy enteracting with humans yet repulsed by them at the same time
Yes I hate human, but we all seem to long for different things in a relationship. I enjoy talking to people, but that is it. Draw the line there. I was not attacking anything, and if I did, I'm sorry, and did not mean to. I have such a passionate love for the canines, that people don't and will never understand. So it kind of pisses me off, we have killers out there that kills people, child abuser, terrorists, and others. It's something that people talk about openly, it's on the TV, radio and all. It's there, we know and we talk about it. But talk about sex with an animal. Boy, you think you said you were going to blow up earth. Thats all that kinda bugs me Wendy. People will never understand me. So I'm completely, and passionately satified with my life as a lover with dogs, and they can't talk. That's why I'm here, if they talked I wouldn't be here. That how much I love my dogs. If it all makes any sense to you.
I knew this topic would fire up a few people. Listen all, we are just exploring the issues and thoughts related to this. Differing opinion is what I wanted to hear, and it's what I got.I've come to the conclusion that it isn't classified as gay, and if it isn't just zoo, you need another word for it.I've also come to the secondary conclusion that it doesn't make a yiff of a difference either way what you call it, or what anyone else thinks.
Well... my prefferance is female (bitches or horse). but... I have alowed myself to be... "Courted" shall we say, by a male dog. But in no way or form do I think of myself as gay or bi. Think of more as an experience, not a life style all together if you go that rout. That's the way I look at it.
lol foxtrot iam a bit like you iam stright with humans(tried the bi/gay thing hated it)but if a dog or horse or any other male aminal asks for "attention" or allows it then iam game to be part of it.ans i dont really consider myself gay in that mebe bi but with conditions as i wont touch another human malehere a brain teaser for you about how we use wordshomosexual is used to discribe males who prefer males(human ) as lover or mate or sex objectsthe word comes from the latin?homo.....meaning humansexual orention thereofnow takezooiphilazoo.... meaning ainal philia..meaning lover ofzoosexual...lover of aminlsnow take it a step further and think aminals taked and wrote etcand thier talking about one of them loving and haveing sexual relations with a HUMAN!!!!what would the other aminals call the one that humped a human??)))should,nt it be homosexualhomo....humansexual...lover ofhomophilia would be a dog(or any amnal) loveing humans))))))))))))))) LOL just a play on words to think aboutHB58
Ok I gess it's time to put my two cents in here. But I think I think I lost all of my money so this one is going to be a free one. I my self I gess I would say that I am bi with animals becuse I have been with both male and female. But I have been with many more males than females. Well as for humans I used to be bi, I gess you would say because I was married for about two years. (The frist and only women I was ever with). The main reason I gess I ever did it in the frist place being my family was really pushing because they did not want me to be gay. So now that I am older and don't let my family get me down so much, I am 100% gay with humans now. I think this should about sum it all up with me.... Hugs AM
As long as you are confortable with who you are, it doesn't matter what people say, or what your preferences are, no one has the capability to judge others... As for myself I like been mounted by my K9, I really enjoy that, but I have never been with another man... I don't consider myself gay...
I am straight with humans and bi with animals. I have never wanted to have sex with a male human, but beast pics or vids that depict male/male sex turn me on.
Hey I thought not many people share the same feeling... It's good to know there are others beside me...
Well I'm not attracted at all to men, just isn't my thing. I'll love to see good looking women, but I'm not realy sexualy attracted to them either. So yes you may call me an zooexclusive Always have had a soft spot for male dogs, just can't help it May sound strange but when I do get down with my boy I've almost never though like; now I've had some gay sex. Doesn't feel at all like that. And the idea of having sex with a guy -> it just not going to happen Nope, dogs are truely man's best friend and lovers
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This subject interests me like quite a few. For me I just don't find male humans attractive in a sexual way. I love the feeling of something up my butt and have a fairly large collection of toys that I enjoy on my own and with female human partners when the opportunity arises. I have been fucked in the arse by female humans with strapons and love it. Tried to go with the male human thing couldn't even get a rise. The thought of the being fucked in the arse of sucking a guy off gets me going, but the actual act is spoiled if there is a guy attacted to the cock. For me at least male men are not sexually attractiveOn the subject of zoo sex. I have no interest in sex of any kind with female animals. I would love to be fucked by a K9 have wanked and sucked a few K9's and love it. Would suck a horse of as I would love to feel all that power.So I'm more confused now about sexual tags for people or animals. For my part if your comfortable with what your doing let others do as they please.Forget the tags you don't need em.Brindle
ok as for my i think i am a FREACK why well its a bit complacated i am a furry fan no biggy there but as a furfan i love gay yiff in fact not jsut gay yiff any yiff not so much into S&M but non the less i dotn mind it in a the furry wourld. ok as for REAL LIVE i hate it dotn turn me on i not a fan of gay Beastiality so i am strate but in the furry world i love it so i consider myself as a FREACK unless soemone can give me a name for what i am i dont know of any one elce is the same as me i am not confusted about my sex i am happy as i am but its kida weard to some people any one with fead back just say i like to know
i read the first post in this thread with the question... i did not however read anyone else's opinion. why? because ive thought about this question myself and wondered and wondered. right now, i think that if a male is attracted to male dogs he is either gay or bi. in my mind, i think that he is probably afraid to admit that he does have "slight" ideas about experiencing a human male. but, ive never spoken with any males face to face that admit to liking animals of ANY gender. so, i could be totally wrong. thats just how my brain is working with the limited information i have right now... anyone, feel free to prove my brain disfunctional or give me feedback.
yikes, i read some other peoples post. apparently im WAAAAY OFF TARGET! lol.. oh and im bi with humans, but would NEVER touch a female dog. just the boys please. now human women.. AYE CARRUMBA... they rock my world.
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Ok my two penniesI like males dogs and humen men. Guess that makes me gay with animals and bi with humans cause I like girls too.AS far as anyone else I try to follow the Wiccan philosophy "And it harm none, do what ye will"GL
I'm not a gay. But I like the male animal "stuff" (any species)And esoecially male furry "stuff" I hate male men , blah
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As most have posted, I (my wants, desires, beliefs) am too complex to fit into a word or phrase. The subject is important because people ask, a lot. Just go to chat and what's the first question? So I decided, for simplicity, to say ZE. It means Zoo Exclusive so unless you're a dog that's learned to type, we're just going to talk and be friends. In other words, don't bother hitting on me or trying to meet.
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QUOTE (foxtrot @ Mar 24 2004, 07:22 PM) This is a good question, that I feel I must put forth.I am a male, first off. Second, I am attracted to male & female dogs.Now, in my entire life, I have never been attracted to another male human. Only the females of my species.Now, my question is, those of you like myself, that will gender switch between dogs regularly, do you think that makes you bi/gay? (Not that there is anything morally wrong with either.)I've noted that most people don't seem to feel that it does make them gay. The gender thing seems to go out the window when we are with animals. I wonder if that's because dogs are so damn capable of pure, unconditional love.... Anyone else have any feelings on this? Or is this just stupid? well im 100% stright,never had any attraction to any males EVER,but i LOVE male dogs,.......it jus 'man and dog' theres sometink special Dan
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Im bisexual with strong gay ''leanings''...both with humans and animals! I love cocks and cum. Ive been looking for a master whos into zoosex, but a mistress would be ok too, as long as she enjoyed ''torturing'' me with male beasts while its videotaped to enslave me! My main worry with women is pregnancy, its not that i dont enjoy women...
Gay ? well M to M sex with animals makes me Verry happy, as for homosexual well they are male aint they ? as for my main pref, it is a sexy mare for me when it is a life long relationship. but I go either way, long as they be a pony or a 4 leged herbavour ( aka Equin, Bovin,Sheep n goats,, would love to do, Elk, Deer)
QUOTE (Brindle @ Jun 4 2004, 11:40 AM)Tried to go with the male human thing couldn't even get a rise. The thought of the being fucked in the arse of sucking a guy off gets me going, but the actual act is spoiled if there is a guy attacted to the cock. For me at least male men are not sexually attractiveOn the subject of zoo sex. I have no interest in sex of any kind with female animals. I would love to be fucked by a K9 have wanked and sucked a few K9's and love it. Would suck a horse of as I would love to feel all that power.Brindle sums up pretty well where I was for many years, "the actual act is spoiled if there is a guy attatched to the cock." I considered myself straight until I was almost 30, but my earliest sexual experiences were with male dogs and throughout my life the stud dogs and stallions have been my primary physical and emotional partners. I just thought of the whole "gay" thing as pretty much spoiled by the guy attached to the cock. However, in time I came to think that what I was really feeling is that most human males are just no fun sexually. Physically, they might be attractive but that can so easily be spoiled by a silly attitude or other elements sexually. Once I started experimenting with human males, I found I DID enjoy it but was often disappointed by the personality of my partners. So, now I think what happened is that I was basically spoiled by all those dozens and dozens of canine lovers from my adolescence onwards. The stud dogs are loving, honest, handsome, caring, and above all else FUN! Wagging tails, a big smile after a nice blowjob. . . there's no "weirdness" with our canine or equine lovers. We are physically intimate, we enjoy the feelings, we might also bond emotionally in the process. There's no lying, or emotional drama, or strange power/control trips like with so many humans. Nowadays, I am really picky about human sexual partners. In addition to being physically attracted to them, I also have to be pretty sure they are fun and don't take themselves too seriously. If I find the right person, I can have lots of fun sexually with them - doesn't matter if they are male or female, really. Ok, well I do admit I am a size whore and a guy with a really massive cock, well I don't care about personality I just want to play with it I think that, for many zoos, we have such truly wonderful sexual lives that when we go back to human sex, we are often disappointed. The deceipt and unhappiness and so forth, it's just not part of zoo sex. However, there are humans out there that are really fun sexually, but they are rare in either gender. I picked the term "omnisexual" out of thin air a few years ago to describe my approach to sexuality. I like having good, fun, exciting, powerful, honest, mutually-respectful sex. I prefer, usually, male partners but not always. Seems I go through phases when I get the "mare lust" big-time, and every year or so I suddenly get all randy for bitches and then as quick as the phase begins, it's over. There's no phase when it comes to big stud dogs and stallions. . . any time, day or night, I'm game! Publically, I describe myself as "non-straight" which is both honest (honesty is very important to me nowadays) and also not recklessly open about my sexuality. Some people assume this means I'm "gay," and I don't generally argue the point with them. Others think I am bi, that's ok also. A very few know my real sexual range which is very wide and very, very deep. I've been blessed to have hundreds of wonderful sexual partners over the years, and only a few times have I had bad sex - always with humans, interestingly enough!I have a lifetime emotional bond with my soulmate, a wonderful stallion friend who is the other half of my soul. However, I also share my life with five stud dogs and three other stallions. I have a very deep bond with two of the digs, with my GSD both emotional and also physical, and with my Golden mostly emotional nowadays though we've been sexual in the past. I had a deep and complicated emotional bond with my Dane, who passed on this winter at age 9, and sexually we were absolutely like fireworks together for years and years. I miss him terribly each and every day, both physically and emotionally. I look at the "normals" around me and I do feel sorry for them. What do they really know about sex? Not much. Until you've had a 1400 pound stallion who is also your heart's love firing a huge load of cum all over you and then nearly collapsing out of exhaustion and happiness. . . you haven't really had sex at all. Those of us who cross the species barrier sexually aren't "better" than the normals, but we do get to experience a wider range of sexual experience and for that I am grateful every day. The cost is also high, of course. The need for secrecy and more importantly the loss of our soulmates over and over - living longer than our partners is a terrible price to pay. Peace, F
Very good post Fausty.I've liked "omnisexual" ever since I read the term in "Wired" a few years back and that's how I describe myself. Most people assume it means "bi" which is true as far as it goes, theyjust don't realise exactly how bi
I am a numbskull
or not? Does it really matter?
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QUOTE (beastcurious67 @ Jan 8 2007, 06:41 AM) or not? Does it really matter? of course it matters - I have a 5 year supply of toaster ovens
I think all the great talk goes to show that the nature of love and attraction human or animal is a personal thing. Meaning each person will view their relations in different ways. Whether your relationship is merely friendship or sexual don't you define it based on yourself and the other person/creature in it? on personalities, preferences, interests, experiences? we try desperately to fit things in our lives into some context to make them more palletable for ourselves or others. often to the point of futility. take a look at tax laws if you want the height of tedium. but here I think I'll take a cue from the dogs, and just be happy I have friends who want to play with me.like all good philosophy, an answer it closes a few doors and opens tens of more,with sincere reguard,rotluvr
QUOTE (southflorida @ Jan 8 2007, 03:44 PM) QUOTE (beastcurious67 @ Jan 8 2007, 06:41 AM) or not? Does it really matter? of course it matters - I have a 5 year supply of toaster ovens HAHAHA
to me, a man goes with just women (str8). If he also go with male dogs or what ever. he is BUT str8 with women but if he goes with both men and women. and if he also goes with males and females k9s or what ever he is bimy self i am for men and males k9s.. that is what i think anyway
i am DEFINETLY straight but bi with animals ...your not the only one
ive met alot like me, i love my male dogs more than anything. sexualy they really get me too. i just dont feel like that for guys and have lots of friends who are the same. but i also have the friends into doggys and its all good.so just as long as your having funa nd are happy it dont matter, but i dont think getting with male dogs makes u , just for dogs
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so true foggy im down for the male dogs just not to really on the humans
when it comes to animals my fantasies always involve me with a male dog, horse or pony and in the human world male-female TS like my fiance.
this is a duplicate thread that has spiraled out of control quickly so I will keep it open but move it to zoo...as previously stated I don't believe that males who sleep with male animals but not human males are g ay... I am a g ay male who is bi zoo - and I can assure you that I am not human bi or hetro...
Okay i'm just putting my opinion out there, i don't think it is if you "play" sexually with a male animal if you are a male human...i like many others here, play with male and female animals but am attracted to only female humans
Well.... it think that it is difficult to apply "gay" to zoophilic relationships, but if one did, I think by definition, male/male relationships would be "gay." - "same" Sexual- "well.. yeah you know" so... same sex, regardless of species, could be called . Right? I don't think it really matters however....
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In the end, it's just a label. I say it doesn't matter what you call yourself. I think a lot of people don't like to label themselves gay or bi simply because of social stigma.
I don't think it would mean you were any more than if you had your wife/gf use a strap-on to penetrate you.
Who says that you have to be the same sexual orientation with both animals and humans? It seems like there are alot of people bi with animals yet straight with humans. Personally, I'm bi with both but respect others choices. Being with a male dog does not make you ; it means that you love animals.
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IMO, it depends on who's on top.
It's a good question, and unfortunately isn't one I've figured out yet so I haven't much to add. All I can really say is I'm in the same boat as you in that I've never once been attracted remotely to another male, but I've been attracted to dogs, and there are even dogs I spot on sight that I consider handsome.
Cock is Cock .. there for if a guy does a male animal he is either or bi ..
In my eyes, you must first decided where your sexual interest lays, with humans or animals.Based on that and on the kind of geniatls preferred, it makes then the sexual tipe.Say you preferred a male dog`s penis and balls, then you are a gayzoo.Preferred a vagina , then you are a heterozoo.Preferring cock , balls and a vagina on a beast, then you are a bizoo.Same with humans.That would clear up the issue.
I suppose that the real question to ask is "who really gives a crap?" There are very few people who are entirely or straight when it comes to relationships with ANY species. We may prefer one over the other, and prefer it very, very strongly, but this is partially because of culture; when homosexuality between humans was a normal practice, more people took part. If pushed, I identify myself as a man, but I've been with, and enjoyed women, too. The more people label themselves, the more the segregate themselves.
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Yep. Knob-gobbling, regardless of the species the knob belongs to, means you're . Or that you're a woman who enjoys giving head, and therefor God's gift to straight men. Thank you, ladies. Thank you.
enjoying male animals dosent make a person . my opinion is it is a whole different species. they dont know or strait. now humans on the other hand have the concept of strait or . two human males or bi. male human and male animal not. Strait guys like things in their ass too.
wow ... lots of flying pink ponies in this thread ......
Sry to be direct but is just like you said before... "is just stupid"
QUOTE (foxtrot @ Mar 24 2004, 07:22 PM) This is a good question, that I feel I must put forth.I am a male, first off. Second, I am attracted to male & female dogs.Now, in my entire life, I have never been attracted to another male human. Only the females of my species.Now, my question is, those of you like myself, that will gender switch between dogs regularly, do you think that makes you bi/gay? (Not that there is anything morally wrong with either.)I've noted that most people don't seem to feel that it does make them . The gender thing seems to go out the window when we are with animals. I wonder if that's because dogs are so damn capable of pure, unconditional love.... Anyone else have any feelings on this? Or is this just stupid? I think it's definately . Doesn't matter what species it is, if you like cock, balls and male arse then your no matter what species.
I often ponder that question (and what a great question it is to bring up). Firstly, in my everyday life I only have intercourse with the female sex but do occasionally fantasise about the male sex but this is usually only with the oral side of things in the middle of a threesome (dont ask me why). As for a dog, I think I would feel the same in that I would probably only consider as to stimulatate a male dog orally and not go all the way, but with a female dog go all the way
After reading this post, I am left with several things in my mind. #1 - Why is everyone so hyped, as to wether or not we are: (Hetro, ,Bi, Transgender/Transexual and Lesbian. {or pure zooist, with no sexual contact with your same species}. Lables are lables. . . Tehy only serve to differentiate and seperate things by classes. . In my life,. . I use lables as appropriate, but I do not always fit the mold for all things. . So . . I think freely and question things I think that many of us don't preoccupy our thoughts of what gender identity we are. . . Adults for the most part have established sexual identity, by the time they have entered adulthood. #2 - What ever happened to the term, "pan-sexual"?.. I have heard the term used in the community reffering to (hermaphrodites), but I think the term is misused .. It should refer to a person who enjoys sexual pursuits with both genders. . and cross/species. To me Pan-sexual, means you like it all. . LOL *- In the end I am left with reflection to myself. . . I am an adult male, Who enjoys the sexual company of other males (cross-species) .. Since I don't have interest in females sexually, I can say I am "male-exclusive". With other humans,. . I can say I am, (). So again- I can only reference from my own self reflection, Male-exclusive, man. . who enjoys the company of men and male animals. Thanks for starting the topic.. . It made me think . . A very good thing Lone.
QUOTE (Farasi @ Jul 6 2007, 10:13 PM) wow ... lots of flying pink ponies in this thread ...... Beat me to it 1. Yeah, label doesn't really matter. You are who you are.2. I seem to be different for each species.Note that this is only fantasy, some of these species may be inpractical to have sex with.Dog - Leaning towards male, but eitherHuman - Female onlyEquine - Male onlyOkami (Wolf) - EitherFox - Male onlyDolphin - Female onlyAnd as for yiffy/furry stuff, I go either way, but prefer M/M usually.See what I mean?
I myself and Human Hetero and Animal Bi.I love to take a dogs knot anytime.... I have no desire to take a human penis though.I have thought about having a woman penetrate me with a strap on.Just my 2 cents.
Hey im a male, and im only attracted to male dogs. You can call me what you want i could care less either way.
Just to add to the confusion, I would like to add that labels just don't do us any justice. Outside of the beast aspect of it what makes a person or lesbian. If two men both get sex changes to become women and fall in love does that make them lesbain. Or in the case of two friends one once a man one once a woman and now married to each other. straight? lol just wanted to add to the mix
Labels leave way too much info unsaid and people who can think ONLY in labels unfairly judge anyone not like themselves. This is definitely not the place for the closed-minded. As for my label I have no clue where I fall in neatly. I was k9 bi(I guess) and ended up becoming bi with humans when I moved away from my 'best friend' .....believe me,it was and is a poor substitute for k9,not putting down anyone just being honest and have to say its purely a sexual attraction and focused on a narrow area as far as guys go, I dont get turned on by guys other than straight sex and not the cuddling type. On the other hand I'm totally typical when it comes to human females,T&A leave my mind a total blank and make me the drooling idiot you'd expect in a hetero guy but no interest whatsoever in female animals. If I had to pick a label for myself I'd say it's gotta be Conundrum or Walking Contradiction
i hear a lot of men prefer m/m k9 but are strictly hetero with people, so i can't really say if it counts as or bi, etc. i agree with stardaug's post though, good points.
I'd just like to say that these frigg'n pink ponies are a pain in the ass, and not the good kind, either. I'd also like to say that I find it rather funny that on a forum full of people who would be considered outsiders in most communities, people are so stuck up on whether or not they may be called "gay." Who cares who/what you're having sex with, just be glad you're having sex.
Just to clarify: I'm not saying that the "gay" men are a problem, because if I have to describe myself, I'm one of them...just the auto replacement of the word "gay" with an animated my little pony, which I find distracting.
I'm a straight male with humans. What is considered normal in that department. But I'm bisexual with animals. I think the reason most don't find it to be "Gay" with animals is because it doesn't feel like regular human sex. It feels more like sharing a moment and bonding. Just my two cents.
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I'm same like the most of you..Straight male with humans, for real. Some reason I don't like the idea of having sex with female animals, but with males - thats a different story. . Let's say that I've had this 'thing' for male dogs and horses as long as I can remember...I'm 25 and I have never experienced real zoo yet though.. sigh.
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QUOTE (findog @ Jul 9 2007, 06:53 PM) I'm same like the most of you..Straight male with humans, for real. Some reason I don't like the idea of having sex with female animals, but with males - thats a different story. . Let's say that I've had this 'thing' for male dogs and horses as long as I can remember...I'm 25 and I have never experienced real zoo yet though.. sigh. Me and you are in a very similar boat.I like female humans, male dogs/horses, and female dogs. I dont think it makes you "gay", and even if it does, so what? Nobody that you dont want to know has to find out if youre careful.
QUOTE (Shadow_L[o)E] I dont think it makes you "gay", and even if it does, so what?Aye, true. I'm more than OK with it. I accept it. It's a part of me and my life. Sometime if I'll get a dog, it'll be large breed male dog.. I'll be zoo even when I'm in a long term relationship. If I stay in the closet forever I'm OK with that. If she finds out and she is OK with beastiality, I'm more than happy. I don't even dare to hope to find a girl that shares my zoo fantasies. If I find one, I'm in heaven, if not, sucks balls, but hey - it's life.Gotta be careful though!
I know this is an old topic, but the question is somewhat popular.As someone said a while ago, there's nothing wrong with labels, it's when they are used negatively that there is a problem.I think it's important to make the distinction that sexual attractions are completely different between species. Just because someone is straight with humans, does not mean they're straight with animals as well. If a male dog's penis turns you on, it does not mean that a male human's penis will.Looking at the wide array of diverse attractions on this forum, there are people who fall into each of the 9 general attraction scenarios concerning both humans and animals (note that I use 'gay' to avoid using the icon):Straight with humans, Straight with animalsStraight with humans, Bisexual with animalsStraight with humans, 'Gay' with animalsBisexual with humans, Straight with animalsBisexual with humans, Bisexual with animalsBisexual with humans, 'Gay' with animals'Gay' with humans, Straight with animals'Gay' with humans, Bisexual with animals'Gay' with humans, 'Gay' with animalsIf you're using a label as a blanket term across all species, then:Straight = straight with humans AND straight with animals'Gay' = 'gay' with humans AND 'gay' with animalsBisexual = all other combinationsThis becomes more complex if you are attracted to 2 different animal species in addition to humans. For example, if a blanket term must be used to describe the three separate attractions of straight with humans, 'gay' with horses, and 'gay' with dogs, it would still be bisexual. Clearly bisexual is the most appropriate term to use if one is not making a distinction between species. Even if someone is 'gay' with both animals and humans, they could technically still refer to themselves as bisexual, just to hide calling themselves bi-species.However, anyone asking about your orientation will typically default to human attraction only, since few people ever consider if someone may be interested in animals. In which case, following the previous example, one could identify them as straight. Of course, it wouldn't be telling the whole story. But some people don't need to know all the details.
I cant believe Im just finding this topic. Ive thought about this alot myself. Im a 21 year old male, I have never had any thoughts about being with a human male. But when it comes to dogs and horses, Im completely bi-sexual. I love both male and female horses and dogs, but not humans. To me thats sort of odd. Id go down on a dog or horse, but not human... I dont consider myself to be bisexual though. I dont think it crosses the species gap myself. Good topic, please keep it going. I like these types of discussions
Interesting question and not easy to give an answer. I think everybody has his/her own answer on this point.Most people will not accept the fact that they have tendancy or feeling, even if they've never done it for real.Others are quite afraid to live their fantasy.I think that you have a part in you if you are interested in male animal, and that we are doing it with animal because we are "afraid" to do it with human. We could be hiding our homosexuality behind the zoo side and claim that we are zoo. I'm not sure I'm clear ?I have a friend who is zoo and who's doing it with male and female, he's got a girlfriend for some time as well and he's always claimed that he wasn't interested in human males. But lately he finally told me he's always wanted to know what it was like to have sex with another guy. We've never done it together till now, but I'm sure it will happen somedays.Animals are better than human, because they don't cheat, cannot tell the others their stories and so on, maybe that's a reason why we love them so much ?
Id say some of that is true, but I dont think Im hiding from my feelings. The thought of sex with a human male does nothing for me and actually sort of disgusts me... though it could be the case for some, but not all.
Thinking of human male is not appealing for you, but doing it with an animal is ? How come ? (I do understand, don't worry, I'm just trying to find answers).One answer would be that an animal taste better than human (for sure)There are less risk with animal than human in term of medical illness.We are almost sure that an animal had no relation with another human before us (which is actually a reason for me. I'm dreaming sometimes to have human sex but with somebody who is pure virgin, I don't like to do it with someone who has a sexual past.
Id say its probably because dispite the animals gender, I can feel the same feelings for both male and female dogs. With a human on the other hand, I have no want or need for a romantic relationship, nor do I desire one. Plus I find the human penis to be one of the ugliest things ever devised Im sure some will agree. However I find a dogs member to be more erotic and beautiful. Thats the best way I can discribe what I think and feel.For the record, I dont deny I have some tendencies. Its obvious that all in the same category as me do, because we like the penis... however I draw the line at human. Really I draw the line at dog and horse only. I dont like any other male species, and really female for that matter. I just have no want for a human male in any way, nor do I think I ever will.And Im almost the same way Lux, as far as the virgin goes. But sadly thats tough to find these days. Then again Im sure almost any heterosexual male would agree they would like to have a virgin at least once. To me a girl that has been with many partners is a turn off. Which is possibly one of the reasons I like animals so much. You are their first true lover, as befor if they have had any sexual encounter its been with the same species who just has sex for reproduction... not pleasure.
Bump! Im curious to hear more on this topic.
Hello,i'm new here. i was looking long for a website like this. when i found it, i dream came true I don't think that you're if if you do a male animal. i think you just try a little bit differnet but I also sucked a horseckock ones although I'm married. I'm lucky that my wife also enjoys getting fucked by animals. best wishes Patrick
i am straight when it comes to humans but i really wnat to get anal from a male dog...
i dont think that it makes you bi or if you like a little horse or dog cock every onece in while
its not . its an animal.He likes it two, i think.you shouldnt care about it, just do it ^^
QUOTE (InTheHeat05)Id say its probably because dispite the animals gender, I can feel the same feelings for both male and female dogs. With a human on the other hand, I have no want or need for a romantic relationship, nor do I desire one. Plus I find the human penis to be one of the ugliest things ever devised Im sure some will agree. However I find a dogs member to be more erotic and beautiful. Thats the best way I can discribe what I think and feel.Some very good things you mentioned there, and I'm inclined to agree with you on all of that. One of the things I discovered about my own attraction toward canines, is I found gender to be a non-issue unless sexual activity is involved. With the dogs I've seen, both male and female dogs possessed the same emotional capabilities. Sure, they might have different personalities, as is to expected among different dogs, but I always felt that at the core, a romantic relationship to a dog could be achieved regardless of the gender.Unlike animals, humans conform at an early age to identify with, and assume the proper gender roles and identities that are imposed upon them by society. For example, the typical man is generally regarded as being less capable of emotional attachment and understanding than a female. In dogs, I've never heard of any such differences.Back to the question asked here:QUOTE (Luxdog) Thinking of human male is not appealing for you, but doing it with an animal is ? How come ? (I do understand, don't worry, I'm just trying to find answers).Going along with what InTheHeat stated, physical differences can account for a lot. A male dog looks nothing like a male human, genitals included. Myself, I am fascinated with the appearance and function of a male dog's penis, but I do not share the same interest with that of a male human. As far as genitals are concerned, in the case of dogs, I find them all interesting and appealing, which isn't something I can say about humans.Even among the same species and gender, what is considered desirable and attractive by one person may be unattractive to another. Different attributes appeal differently to people.
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QUOTE (ZetterGRD @ Jul 24 2007, 11:57 PM) QUOTE (InTheHeat05)Id say its probably because dispite the animals gender, I can feel the same feelings for both male and female dogs. With a human on the other hand, I have no want or need for a romantic relationship, nor do I desire one. Plus I find the human penis to be one of the ugliest things ever devised Im sure some will agree. However I find a dogs member to be more erotic and beautiful. Thats the best way I can discribe what I think and feel.Some very good things you mentioned there, and I'm inclined to agree with you on all of that. One of the things I discovered about my own attraction toward canines, is I found gender to be a non-issue unless sexual activity is involved. With the dogs I've seen, both male and female dogs possessed the same emotional capabilities. Sure, they might have different personalities, as is to expected among different dogs, but I always felt that at the core, a romantic relationship to a dog could be achieved regardless of the gender.Unlike animals, humans conform at an early age to identify with, and assume the proper gender roles and identities that are imposed upon them by society. For example, the typical man is generally regarded as being less capable of emotional attachment and understanding than a female. In dogs, I've never heard of any such differences.Back to the question asked here:QUOTE (Luxdog) Thinking of human male is not appealing for you, but doing it with an animal is ? How come ? (I do understand, don't worry, I'm just trying to find answers).Going along with what InTheHeat stated, physical differences can account for a lot. A male dog looks nothing like a male human, genitals included. Myself, I am fascinated with the appearance and function of a male dog's penis, but I do not share the same interest with that of a male human. As far as genitals are concerned, in the case of dogs, I find them all interesting and appealing, which isn't something I can say about humans.Even among the same species and gender, what is considered desirable and attractive by one person may be unattractive to another. Different attributes appeal differently to people. Thanks for the backup Im attracted to certain dog breeds over others, but like both male and female. With humans however I only find those of the female sex to be attractive and want nothing more than freindship with males. Like you said its all about taste and what one finds attractive. In my case, female husky and a male rottie are my favorites...
In a way I think it is..because both species are obviously male..I just consider it love. Well maybe because I"m somewhat of a hippie..but yeah. Off topic- I always wanted to jack off a horse. sorry. I really want to.
Like a lot of blokes here, I have no interest in male male human sex but wouldn't mind experimenting some more with male dogs. There is just somthing about it that has me interested, kind of hard to explain.
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I guess some of us are just programmed that way. No way to explain why or how, just are.
i thougt i was the only one whit this question........ if you dont have sex whit anoter human you are not , just zoophilic. in mater of fact Zoophilia is in the dictionary as: feeling sexually atracted to a animal. does not say anithing about gender. sssssssssssssssso we are safe ladyes
Just to put in my own take, I consider myself a queer male (I'm avoiding the G word so it doesn't show up as a little pink flying creature). I've had sex with a couple women and it was fun but have never had any real drive towards them, nor emotional desire. I'm pretty focused on men. And in zoo interests, I'm exclusively interested in male dogs and horses.I would also mention that within the range of dogs, I have particular tastes. For the most part, I'm interested in larger male dogs because I like the sense of dominance in being mounted by one. However, I have a particular love for Great Danes, partly for their larger bodies and big dicks, but also just that they are so sleek and trim and I understand that for a male dog, they are fairly gentle and friendly. Danes are the only dog I would actually like to sleep with, after sex and want a deeper emotional connection with. At the other end, German Shepherds freak me out and I wouldn't touch one if it was my only chance at having sex with a dog. During childhood, I had a few experiences of being attacked by particularly vicious Shepherds and that sort of leaves an imprint on the psyche. I've also had the experience of riding in a car with an actual wolf in the backseat and that was pretty scary.
So do you mean that with humans? I myself am bi with dogs. I'll go either way. But for humans, I'm 250% straight. I just don't have an attraction to human males.(sorry guys) I mean I'll tell you if a guy has good looks, I'm secure enough to do that. But I'm not attracted to them.
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