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What would you do if you confided in your girlfriend/boyfriend that you looove bestiality and then they refused to participate, or forbid you from doing so yourself? Would you leave that person or stay with them and forget your passion?
QUOTE (BeastMagicOne @ Mar 18 2008, 06:01 AM) What would you do if you confided in your girlfriend/boyfriend that you looove bestiality and then they refused to participate, or forbid you from doing so yourself? Would you leave that person or stay with them and forget your passion? I don't know. It's a part of my sexuality, but I never really act on it. It wouldn't really phase me as much. Well, unless it was something they make a huge fuss over. Then I'd get out of that relationship. It's kind of hard to get rid of the passion though. I've tried to do so before, still unsuccessful.
QUOTE (pick_7 @ Mar 17 2008, 10:30 PM) moved to zoophilia Sorry Pick
Sometimes I feel like a total fraud being on this forum, because I'm really little more than a zoo voyeur. That is, while I'm incredibly aroused by the thought of women with animals, excited by the imagery, and would love to watch my girlfriend enjoying such experiences, I don't have the same desire or compulsion of many of the others here. At present, I don't have any desire to be sexually intimate with an animal, and while I might be disappointed if my partner wasn't in the lifestyle and was adamantly against the idea of exploring and experimenting, it wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me. It might only become a problem if she found me repulsive because of my kinks (any of them) and said she didn't want me watching bestiality-related porn.That said, I think any time your significant other expressly demands or forbids, they're attempting to execise control that isn't theirs, attempting to dominate your life. And that's always a bad sign, suggesting some serious, underlying emotional or psychological issues, a need to control or change you rather than accepting you as you are. And that would certainly be cause to reconsider the relationship.However, it's a little different if they simply state their feelings on the matter, making no demands or requests upon you, but explain how they feel, how your kinks or needs make them feel, whether they can handle it or not, and then leave it in your hands to decide whether you'll respect their feelings and abstain - entirely at your choice, because you're willing to make the sacrifice because you love them and need them more than you love/need the other - or, perhaps regrettably, conclude that the relationship needs to end because, as much as you may love them, you can't live without fulfilling that other part of your needs and desires.I think of it in terms of other alternate lifestyles, like bisexuality or polyamory. While I have no problem dating or being involved with a woman who's bisexual or polyamorous, I make it clear that I'm a diehard monogamist who would only be able to handle a monogamous relationship. I don't hold her bisexuality or polyamorous nature against her, but to be with me she'd have to forgo those other impulses. I wouldn't forbid her to be with other women, or have multiple lovers, but she'd be aware of the fact that we couldn't have a relationship if she did so. More times than not, though, such relationships don't work out, because the incompatibility is often too great, because it's not about merely giving up kinks but about denying who you are, sacrificing a part of yourself. Most people can't do that and, even if they do, if their partners truly love them, they inevitably feel guilty because of it.I could sacrifice little pleasures, sexual kinks, and trivial desires, but I could never sacrifice who I am. So, I think it's a question of whether bestiality and the zoo lifestyle is just kinky sexual fun, or if it's an intrinsic part of who you are.
kinda, happened. I told her and she was fine with the idea that i was attracted to animals. However when i said i wanted a dog just as a pet she said no, because she didn't want to have to watch her back... As you could imagine a few months later we broke up. Shows a lack of trust. If she said it was fine to have a pet then we might still be together, but that is not the case.
Refusing to participate is one thing I could easily accept, but if they were completely disgusted by the idea then I don't see how a relationship would be possible.
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I agree with Shy. It would be great if they would participate, but if they did not want to, fine. I couldn't deal with them not accepting my lifestyle. Would most definetly show them the door.
I don't really know if I would keep the relationship going or not. My thing is, I've had to deny myself sexual kinks all my life, so if my partner didn't like that I liked looking at animals, I can't say I would break off the relationship. I wouldn't want to, as I get attached easily to humans.Now, there are other aspects of my sexuality that if asked to give up I would have to end the relationship, but I don't think bestiality is one of them. Like, for instance, I like anal sex. A LOT. And if I was asked to give that up, I would be very hard-pressed to keep the relationship going. That's one of the reasons I broke up with my last gf. That, and she was a
Like others have said, participation and acceptance are two different things. If my g/f does not join me in my intimate relationship with a dog then it's her choice and I can't hold that against her. If she refuses to accept the fact that I also enjoy the company of our four legged friends then that's just her own ignorance....and she would have to go. The g/f and I have had many a conversation about this topic. I'm into animal sex...and she's not...she's into that painful sex where people hurt each other and what not...but I'm not. To each their own
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QUOTE However when i said i wanted a dog just as a pet she said no,Not trying to be mean or anything, but you should have left her then. If my boyfriend ever told me I could not have something I really wanted (something feasible, of course) I'd be pretty pissed.Anyways, before I told my boyfriend I was into this, I often wondered what would happen if he was disgusted by it.If they are trying to change you then, there are two options I can think of: leave him/her for not accepting you for who you are or deal with it and stay in the relationship, possibly unhappily. If they accept it but don't like it, don't push it on them. Do whatever you do in private, but don't try to get them involved, and it should be okay.I agree with what doggycurious said. QUOTE participation and acceptance are two different things.Now having someone who is willing to participate too, that's ftw!
/\ /\ /\ /\-by the way I love that avatar missy. Yeah im kind of at a crossroad. I just recently told my girlfriend about my desire and passion for dogs and she looked at me with disgust and then ask if I was joking. I told her that I would love it if she wanted to give it a try but she said no, that she never would try it. Nothing to me would be hotter then watching her give oral to a dog this would just be the ultimate. Unluckly I will nver get the oppertunity with her. Even if she wanted to have sex with animals I don't think she'd be able to because shes got a tipped cervix so during intercourse I have to be really gental and slow, and I don't think theres a dog out there that has slow, sentuous sex, their animal instincts prohibit them from this I think.
QUOTE (BeastMagicOne @ Mar 18 2008, 12:01 AM) What would you do if you confided in your girlfriend/boyfriend that you looove bestiality and then they refused to participate, or forbid you from doing so yourself? Would you leave that person or stay with them and forget your passion? I went through this myself once...my ex fiance at first said he liked the idea and would be fine if I wanted to continue, but as time went on he got second thoughts and said he didn't want to see me do anything, he said I could do whatever I wanted when he wasn't around but he didn't want to catch wind of anything going on...then when I tried to get a dog, he forbid it.We broke up for a seperate reason, he cheated on me, but I look back now and figure we would have gone seperate ways for the reason of him forbiding me to have a dog after giving his permission for me to have animals and do what I'd like when he wasn't around. His signals were hugely mixed, and anytime I'd try to talk to him about it he'd never give the conversation a chance. My feelings for animals are a part of me, a very strong part, I've actually fallen in total love with an animal before the way I fell in love with my human fiance, so it goes very deep. It's not a fetish or a kink for me, it's a part of me and it's not something I'm willing to do without for the rest of my life.
QUOTE (EnigmaticVixen @ Mar 18 2008, 11:46 AM) QUOTE (BeastMagicOne @ Mar 18 2008, 12:01 AM) What would you do if you confided in your girlfriend/boyfriend that you looove bestiality and then they refused to participate, or forbid you from doing so yourself? Would you leave that person or stay with them and forget your passion? I went through this myself once...my ex fiance at first said he liked the idea and would be fine if I wanted to continue, but as time went on he got second thoughts and said he didn't want to see me do anything, he said I could do whatever I wanted when he wasn't around but he didn't want to catch wind of anything going on...then when I tried to get a dog, he forbid it.We broke up for a seperate reason, he cheated on me, but I look back now and figure we would have gone seperate ways for the reason of him forbiding me to have a dog after giving his permission for me to have animals and do what I'd like when he wasn't around. His signals were hugely mixed, and anytime I'd try to talk to him about it he'd never give the conversation a chance. My feelings for animals are a part of me, a very strong part, I've actually fallen in total love with an animal before the way I fell in love with my human fiance, so it goes very deep. It's not a fetish or a kink for me, it's a part of me and it's not something I'm willing to do without for the rest of my life. "To thine own self be true" Words I wish I'd have taken to heart, but the outside world has a way of slowly taking pieces of you away, if you let it. At least that is how it went in my case. I think I am finally getting back to who I am, and it is bittersweet; but I would not have it any other way.Glad you followed your heart EV, and I do mean heart because I agree with you completely that it is an emotional thing, which runs deep; despite what others may think. Hurts to loose someone you love, for whatever the reason; but at least you didn't turn away from who you are; that is more important than anything in the world.
QUOTE (shylark @ Mar 18 2008, 01:01 PM) Refusing to participate is one thing I could easily accept, but if they were completely disgusted by the idea then I don't see how a relationship would be possible. agree. if the don't want participate, it's fine by me, i don't want to make them. but if disgusted, the door is there. i can't just break up with zoophilia, it's a part of me, but i wont confess to anyone, i'm sacred. living in small village,it's not wise.
QUOTE (guthwulf @ Mar 18 2008, 12:53 PM) QUOTE (EnigmaticVixen @ Mar 18 2008, 11:46 AM) QUOTE (BeastMagicOne @ Mar 18 2008, 12:01 AM) What would you do if you confided in your girlfriend/boyfriend that you looove bestiality and then they refused to participate, or forbid you from doing so yourself? Would you leave that person or stay with them and forget your passion? I went through this myself once...my ex fiance at first said he liked the idea and would be fine if I wanted to continue, but as time went on he got second thoughts and said he didn't want to see me do anything, he said I could do whatever I wanted when he wasn't around but he didn't want to catch wind of anything going on...then when I tried to get a dog, he forbid it.We broke up for a seperate reason, he cheated on me, but I look back now and figure we would have gone seperate ways for the reason of him forbiding me to have a dog after giving his permission for me to have animals and do what I'd like when he wasn't around. His signals were hugely mixed, and anytime I'd try to talk to him about it he'd never give the conversation a chance. My feelings for animals are a part of me, a very strong part, I've actually fallen in total love with an animal before the way I fell in love with my human fiance, so it goes very deep. It's not a fetish or a kink for me, it's a part of me and it's not something I'm willing to do without for the rest of my life. "To thine own self be true" Words I wish I'd have taken to heart, but the outside world has a way of slowly taking pieces of you away, if you let it. At least that is how it went in my case. I think I am finally getting back to who I am, and it is bittersweet; but I would not have it any other way.Glad you followed your heart EV, and I do mean heart because I agree with you completely that it is an emotional thing, which runs deep; despite what others may think. Hurts to loose someone you love, for whatever the reason; but at least you didn't turn away from who you are; that is more important than anything in the world. "She handed me a heart-shaped locket that said 'to thine own self be true'" I have no doubt that you tried your best not to lose yourself hun, sometimes it feels ok to change and let things go...it's not till later that you feel it may have been too much and that you don't feel like quite yourself anymore.You still have plenty of time to find those pieces again and put them back where they belong, I'm sorry it has to bittersweet, I'm sorry so many things in life have to hurt, but you'll make it to end of your journey to be true to yourself too.
I can not help you to decide which of the alternatives to choose. First, you have outed yourself. ( In doing that you took the risk of loosing her, or her telling the world ) Second she has laid down her demands. She will not participate with your fetish and you are to forgo your association with animals.You will have to decide weather you abstain from your fetish forever and live with her. But if you live together you would be taking the risk that at some point of time she could get upset about something and use your past as a weapon against you.If you chose to continue with your fetish and reject her then she could still out you too the world. You are differently between a rock and a hard place. I wish you well in what ever you decide.Many years ago I was in a situation where people had their suspicions about me and my companion, my decision was to relocate.
Well its the big decision those of us who long for human mates as well all come to. Whether to come out to our human partner or not. For those that do there is always great risk involved. Not just the risk of being outed, but the even greater risk of being asked to abstain. I personally would not choose to stay in any relationship where a partner would ask, or even demand that abstain from my own basic sexuality in thought and action; because they could not sympathize with it. If they are so selfish as to not try to accept that which is a quintessential part of me, then do they truly love me at all?Further is the fact, that it is practically impossible to separate such a basic component of our personalities from ourselves. Its like asking me, by sheer mental force of will, to simply make my left arm drop off. It can't be done, not forever. Even if it could, should it be done? Where is the justice in a relationship where one partner dictates everything, sympathizes not one bit for the other partner; and forces the other partner to do the impossible for them. That is NOT a relationship, that is slavery. To enslave yourself for some perceived love is foolish. Love should give joy, not unhappiness. When you start having to give up of your basic nature to try obtain love, you'll never grasp it. It should be there largely from the start, or it will never be truly there at all. True, taking such a stance may limit your options. But at least they'll be your options and not someone else's.
QUOTE (st benard @ Mar 18 2008, 07:45 PM) I can not help you to decide which of the alternatives to choose. First, you have outed yourself. ( In doing that you took the risk of loosing her, or her telling the world ) Second she has laid down her demands. She will not participate with your fetish and you are to forgo your association with animals.You will have to decide weather you abstain from your fetish forever and live with her. But if you live together you would be taking the risk that at some point of time she could get upset about something and use your past as a weapon against you.If you chose to continue with your fetish and reject her then she could still out you too the world. You are differently between a rock and a hard place. I wish you well in what ever you decide.Many years ago I was in a situation where people had their suspicions about me and my companion, my decision was to relocate. Why is this any different from say demanding monogamy of a bisexual partner?
I didn't bring up the subject, but was caught red handed with our female dog. I was given an ultramation, stop having sex with the dog or divorce. I chose to stop having sex with the dog. In fact we gave the dog away, so the temptation was removed. After my wife passed away, I had the opportunity to try it again. As the saying goes, try it you'll like it. I tried it and I liked it to the point I got a female Lab, that also likes it.
my gf accidentally came by me and my ex girlfriends stash of material on the subject and freaked out to the point where she was about to leave the country, loving her as much as I did I lied about the fact that I too had been into it. Although it ended up costing me her love in the end anyway since she never really got over it.
i don't think i could have a long term relationship with a boyfriend/girlfriend that did not share my zoo interests.
I think that I would forget her, and move on!! himfella
The 2 times that I have "jokingly" broached this subject with my girlfriend were nearly disastrous. She is deffinetly NOT into it and I don't see her ever being into it. If I told her that I like to watch the stuff she would probably show me the door. That's fine, zoophilia is not that important to me. Honestly, I don't want anyone or anything screwing that woman but me, myself, and I. I am more of a zoo voyeur and can be satisfide without it as long as my girl puts out for me, which she gladly does, I'm pretty good in bed for a noob at sex. I've made her cum 3 time in a row with just my hand and some cuddling and so far have not dissapointed when it comes to giving a good dicking. I'm not giant in that department, but I'm well above average AND I focus on giving her hers before I get mine as that song "Sexual Eruption" says.
<I tried adding this to the end of my last post, but it wouldn't let me>I prefer human companionship and relations over animals, though I would not mind having a pet (small breed dog like a terrier (she wants a Pomeranian)). For sex, humans are the best in my oppinion.
Well its obviously not a stretch for you since it seems you are not a primary zoophile. But rather a voyeuristic bestialist. There is nothing wrong with that, but as a component of your personality it is, as you yourself have admitted, a minor one that can be easily suppresed or given up. Good luck my friend. P.S. Pomeranians RULE!!!
I don't prefer humans over animals or animals over humans why shouldn't we be able to ahve both?
I also consider my sexual tendencies towards animals something that I could turn off and something that I probably will turn off when I get together with my next girlfriend. to me they are simply one of my kinks among many, but what I really desire is a long term human female mate. chances are slim that that person will be a zoo, and unless that was the reason we met (ie, through this website) then I have no desire to tell them. if the wrong person got a hold of that information I could immediately lose my job, and be shunned by probably everyone I know and love. getting off is not worth it.
QUOTE (BeastMagicOne @ Mar 17 2008, 11:01 PM) What would you do if you confided in your girlfriend/boyfriend that you looove bestiality and then they refused to participate, or forbid you from doing so yourself? Would you leave that person or stay with them and forget your passion? Told several of my GF's that I was into animals, none of them joined in but neither did any of them freak out and run away screaming.None of them have been interested in participating, or watching, or anything like that... they just accepted what I was, how I was, and that being zoo is as much a part of what defines me as my skin, and about as easy to shed.None of them, not one, has ever forbid me or asked me to change. A couple have expressed some ill ease with the thought of being with me after an animal, tho... until after I had showered.
I'd say it ll comes down to whether you love the person enough or not. If you truly love the person more than dog sex it shouldn't be all that difficult to stop with the dog...If not, well ,end the relationship...
In the end though, these are all just opinions helping out an issue that only you have the true answer to. Hopefully you will make the right choice in the end.
Each person is different. Early on I liked the idea of sex with animals, but had not yet beome a zoophile. I would love to have found a girl who was okay with my having relations with both her and certain animals. I was, many years ago, engaged to a girl who loved dogs (but as far as I know, not in a sexual way). I have always wondered how she would have felt if she knew that I also liked sex with dogs (and most likely any other female animal that would let me make love). But I will never know. One problem I have had was that too many girls want to change the guy to what they want, and not simply love them for who they are. Now it's a bit late. I am totally into animals, and there are only a very few humans who I would be interested in. Though I would love to find a girl, older of course, who would love to share our relations with animals, it is not very likely at this point. She would have to like living in a very rural area, and going to town only a couple of times a month. Being a basic nudist would be a plus as well. I have never told anyone, other than people here, and in similar grou(p)s, about my love and sexuality for animals. Indeed, I have never told any member of my family about this, or my bisexuality either. Any person I get that involved with has to be someone that I know will accept me for what and who I am, and not try to change me to be something I am not and never will be. Society is too sheeplike in that they will seldom go against what the "public" seems to want or accept. And I am not what one would call religious either. My beliefs are not christian or jewish or so on. So, one must feel out prosective partners with caution. the lucky ones find someone rioght for them, while many of us seldom do, or find them too late... Better to find out early that the person is not right for you, than rush into things and find out the hard way. That's my 2 credits worth...
By personal experience, I wouldn't give too much hope for such a relationship to hold out over time. It all depends on the individuals involved, how much bestiality means to you, and how set in their convictions your partner is. I might give it some time and see if a compromise or acceptance is on the horison, but wouldn't waste a whole lot of time and emotion trying to shape the world according to how you want it to be - or how the would should be. Accepting how things are make you a better person, and is a key player in the quest for happiness.
I couldn't be in a relationship ever again, with someone who couldn't at least respect my life as a Zoo. No, they wouldn't have to participate, I would never expect them too, but I also would not accept someone telling me I was forbidden to be the woman I am. Who I am and how I live my life, is both important to me and something that is part of the deepest personal makeup of all that I am. I wouldn't want a b/f who was uncomfortable with what I do or how I live. That's not a relationship I can see truly building and going somewhere positive. I don't make easy relationships and I'm also not the easiest person to be in a relationship with. I understand that and though it can be hard at times to follow certain codes and ethics I have, in the long run its the best way for me to be. I've strayed from my course in life a time or two with very painful results. I don't do that now and will not ever do so again. I've been through some ups and some downs in the human relationship department, but I've lived and learned along the way. Every Zoo or Beast has a lot of choices and hard decisions to make, when they bring the two sides together. Its never easy or simple, it takes a great deal of inner strength to not only start to build a relationship, but to also have one mature and grow into a beautiful one. I believe the stars aligned just right a while back and I was given the second chance at building something beautiful with someone I thought would only remain a former b/f. Hopefully it will continue to grow for us both. It sure seems like its moving that way, with every new day.
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My dogs are so much a part of my life that I couldn't simply stop loving them as I do for the sake of a new human-human relationship. If the person I was seeing wasn't at least open to bestiality on my part, I would have to end the relationship.
At this point in my life, for me to become sexually involved with another human, the person(s) would need to meet certain requirement. First, of course, is being totally open to zoo love. Second is being open to bisexual behavior as well. And last, but not least, either not have had sex with other humans for a long time, or have been tested for HIV, and any partner they have had would also, IMO, need to be tested. I have been tested, the first time was voluntary on my part, and I had not had sexual contact with other humands for a number of years. the second was also voluntary, but was due to a hospital aide/nurse/ orderly sticking themself with a needle that had been used on me. I was negative the first time for HIV and STD's, or at least the major ones they tested for, and I would presume I would have been told if there had been a positive on the second test. Though at present, there are few that I would become involved with. So it is not looking very likely. My girls and boys are also not likely to give me any unwanted things, so not a problem there. Enough...
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Well, I'll put it simply: If she didn't want to participate, then I'd be fine with it.If she didn't want me to participate, then I'd likely break up with her, as I can't have something like that in a relationship.
Vary simple, HELL YES, drop them like a hot potato.
I'm at the point of telling my boyfriend of 'my secret sexual life' I have enjoyed since I was 15. I have a feeling he will be cool with it, but if not, I realize I must move on without him. I can't change who I am and my feelings. People enjoy and get off with sex in many ways, and while I prefer humans, I do find sex with dogs highly erotic.
First you meed to think through what you want and need.If you need a zoo lover in your life you need to know if you need him or her to also participate.Then you need to sit down with him or her and tell her what your needs are, and explain without threats or anger that if she/he can't accept you should part ways.Chances are the are not going to come around, and chances are that you won't change.Spare him or her, and yourself as much pain as possible.
QUOTE (Ivy25 @ Mar 31 2008, 12:24 PM) I'm at the point of telling my boyfriend of 'my secret sexual life' I have enjoyed since I was 15. I have a feeling he will be cool with it, but if not, I realize I must move on without him. I can't change who I am and my feelings. People enjoy and get off with sex in many ways, and while I prefer humans, I do find sex with dogs highly erotic. Underaged references aren't allowed here.
QUOTE I'm at the point of telling my boyfriend of 'my secret sexual life' .... I have a feeling he will be cool with it, but if not, I realize I must move on without him. I can't change who I am and my feelings. People enjoy and get off with sex in many ways, and while I prefer humans, I do find sex with dogs highly erotic.I was once exactly where you are right now, except I had no intention of moving on without him. I had the same gut feeling that everything would be okay. I wish you luck. Oh, and read the rules here before making your next post.
I think that it's fine is someone doesn't know about your interests in beastiality. Sometimes it could be for the better. I love my girlfriend dearly but would like to find a friend, just an acquaintance that would be opening to playing with my dog. Someone that can be discreet and it be our little secret. It's unfortunate the we don't know what relationships we can ruin by stating our desires but somethings are better left to company of folks like myself. I have been around BF for a long time and have been more or less very quiet. But I have it now in my mind that what a better place to share thoughts and ideas, inside jokes, etc. than with folks like yourselves who are safe to talk with.Don't hate me for not telling my Circle of Friends
my fiance found out and she excepts it she just told me to not tell her when me and my mare do it lol
For me, I don't think it would be a hard choice to make if it came down to one or the other. If I actually found a woman that I thought I might be able to share my life with I would drop this kink of mine until #1-I found out she was into it herself or #2-I figured out that it wasn't working and we went our separate ways. Understand that I don't have strong desires for me to mate with animals, most of my zoo kinks come from watching others.Now what others have said so far I would agree with to a degree. It is not fair to expect others to change who they are in a relationship for you. However, I know that true love means you ARE willing to change and sacrifice for them. And that is what I am willing to do if I find that one woman who would complete me is not a hard decision. Sacrifice a part of what I like or enjoy to ensure that the relationship succeeds. Ultimately what I want is not the most important thing, it is what is the right thing for the relationship. If I believe or suspect that she could not handle this little kink of mine it is sooooo gone. Course, I haven't had a serious GF for a few years now and since I haven't met her yet I am not putting my life on hold until I do.
All my girlfriends I exposed to porn and then dropped in the K9 stuff. None would entertain the idea I became older and more frustrated. I married the first woman I came across who would sit with me look at K9 porn. We bought two puppies as I wanted a English mastiff and she wanted a ridge back. We had problems with the council with a previous dog and so bought pure breeds with certificates other wise the Law wants the dogs castrated. The dogs grew up with my wife and we had no problems at all. I have many fond memories. Our mirage lasted 6 years and a very bitter ending with lawyers etc. I do not plan to marry ever again. I have given up trying to find K9 girls all I do is with each new girlfriend ( middle aged woman now 30 + ) when she is well sexed up slip a qube of butter into her and give her head as it melts and let the dogs in. I don’t talk about anything at all. Normally all will get licked some freak and never come back, other warm to it over time. I don’t push or do anything the dogs show continuing interest and being licked is very pleasurable for the woman. If the dog tries to mount I call it off. They have to read and study all the information I have gatherd over the years. The concept of saying no your not ready really works, the pressure is off and its up to them. I have sex with them and leave them with the dogs only after they feel free to be licked in my company. Like I said its mature woman who have found their own sexuality. I never had any luck below 30 but one girlfriend had a lesbian lover and she was hot for it as the only younger girl I have ever seen. I don’t know why this is people have to be mature enough to accept the taboo, young girls are too busy looking for love or something but a woman who just wants sex it will normally happen in the first two week of meeting them. But I must tell you I spent 20 years with out meeting one who would, and now I don’t have that problem maybe because I got experience when I was married. My wife took her dog so me and my English mastiff are a team. I really don’t enjoy having sex with a woman unless he is involved simply because of the excitement and effort a woman who is dedicated to the experiment put in. I feel good as they have good sex with me and slowly over time my telephone book is filling with numbers. I do the runner when love and marriage crop up and loose sex partners. But with the dog I can distance myself a little bit ( see other woman ) and still remain friends and they will still come around from time to time. I cannot figger woman out and I am too old now to be bothered. I don’t waste my time on young beautiful young chicks , Just go straight for the older woman, no messing around just straight to the point. Zoo is not new many girls are curious these days and really want to but are scared. Strangely not of the knot so much as what I always thought but of being caught or talked about or being found out. For this reason I have my place secluded far from the city where every one knows every one. I also don’t frequent social [SPAM]. I have a nice picture of my dog in my wallet and always introduce him as if my child or best friend which actually he is both. So my advice don’t talk get a dog and then let them become friend whilst you are keeping her toped up with sex and it will just happen by its self. I only ever discuss it when the woman is asking the questions. I don’t push at all or even seem that interested a Dog cock with balls will create its own sexual tension just allow time, If she will allow it to lick her your safe, if not then I just loose all interest in her. Only trust people who love animals and that a well recorded fact.
i could never be in any relationship or friendship where someone couldn't accept me for who i am...my current bf, i've been with since the very beginning of december 07', and he's zoo as well...
I can totally relate. It sucks to have to keep things to yourself. I hate dating guys who don't know what I am into. I feel like I am lying/hiding things about myself. So, I say if they can't take a f*ck, joke em. and then move on.lol. Gotta be true to you. Besides, if they fall in love w/ you and don't know "all" of you....then do they really love you ??????? I'd rather be hated for who I am then loved for who I'm not.
i would stay with them but i would not stop playing woth my animals i love them to much
Since I am zoo-ex, I dunno if a normal relationship would work at all. But if so, forbidding me that wouldn't work at all and the relationship would most likely break.
I would leave. If they don't love me for me, and aren't at least accepting of my sexual interests, they are not the right person for me.
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For me personally it would be like trying to hide the fact of being or bi... it's not simply part of my sexuality, it is my sexuality!
QUOTE (energydog @ Mar 18 2008, 01:33 PM) I personally would not choose to stay in any relationship where a partner would ask, or even demand that abstain from my own basic sexuality in thought and action; because they could not sympathize with it. If they are so selfish as to not try to accept that which is a quintessential part of me, then do they truly love me at all?Where is the justice in a relationship where one partner dictates everything, sympathizes not one bit for the other partner; and forces the other partner to do the impossible for them. That is NOT a relationship, that is slavery. To enslave yourself for some perceived love is foolish. Love should give joy, not unhappiness. When you start having to give up of your basic nature to try obtain love, you'll never grasp it. There's a lot of wisdom in this thread, but this quote just speaks volumes to me... There is so much power in the simple truth of these words. I am humbled.Like many of you, I too am used to living a secret life, and quite prefer it to having myself be an open book, I like the privacy and knowledge of self and satisfaction with my own particular kinks, fetishes, and desires. I always liked the secret knowledge of living outside societal "norms" and do relish it. Now suddenly I find myself with someone I can share absolutely *everything* with, and it's liberating. Combined with this tremendous resource we know as a community which is providing a surprising amount of food for thought...Selfishness and Justice. These words just slayed me when reading them today because they cut right to the heart of this matter... I used to think I was different because I made up my mind back in the beginning of my journey as a sensual man, never to be selfish as regards the use of pleasure or with my money. I am in good company after all! Cheers!
Then I'd find someone i had more in common with =3There are zillions of kittens in the litter. I can find more than one i like
well when i told my gf, she was shocked (althouhg she did say it made sense, i had a habbit of when people were loking at the horses of going, "hey look a stallion" or any pics of one i saw, they would say" isn't it lovely" and then i would say" yeah...hey look, a stallion" and laugh to cover my tracks, 2 and a hale years and they never worked it out ANYAY) she doens't wan to participate, and thats fine, thats is their choice so don't force a lifestyle on anyway. as for not accepting it, i would stay with her, and see what happens over time, she may end up being ok with it, as long as you don't come home and say, i had sex with a dog, and it was great today. however if it is still no, then it comes down to who......or what you have the most passion for. my gf doesn't want to participate, becouse horses are bi, and she rides them in competitions, so she has more of a best freinds relationship. but everyone is to their own. i hope it all works out for you in the long run mate
Me it's clear that if she ask me to change I wouldn't. I'm born as a zoo and I'll die as one. She don't have to participate, but she have to accept me like I am.I think that if she really love you, she can love you no matter what.
Me personally, I wouldn't confide in a girlfriend...if she freaks out and turns you in to authorities, it's game over. Better to keep it a secret until you know absolutely for certain that it's ok to share.But your question is a tougher one...what if I did tell a girlfriend and she rejected the idea? Well...I personally would never ask someone to accept something they aren't comfortable with; everyone has their limits, and I think we can all agree being a zoo/beast is pretty far out into a limit for the general populace.Having said that, if they forbid me to pursue the activity on my own - i.e., forcing me to choose between them or the animal - I pretty much would have to call the relationship over. Which would be hard, because if you care about someone enough to confide something as major as this to them, you want the relationship to work. But the bottom line, you should love a person for who they are...not for who you can make them into.I am a firm believer in respecting other people's boundaries...me personally, if even I hadn't been physical with an animal in the past myself, if a woman I was involved with wanted to engage in zoo/beast, I wouldn't mind it. I'd be supportive of her desires even if I didn't share them. And I most certainly would never say to her, "you can't do that, I won't allow you to."Still, not everyone shares that mentality. It could be shock ("you do what with your dog?!"), it could be stubbornness ("you're not doing it, and that's that"), or it could even be jealousy ("oh, you'd rather have sex with the dog instead of me, is that it?").Of course, if you do find that special someone who can accept it and share it with you, well...those are the lucky ones.
Have I posted here before? if I have, but here goes.My significant other doesn't know of my interests here, and I don't plan to bring it up. She'd probably find it very disturbing and disgusting. While I enjoy watching it and reading stories here, I don't think I could stomach watching her do it. So, I guess it isn't that much of an issue. She does know that I'm into art, though. She's seen some if it (some of the more explicit ones too ) She thinks it's weird and that I'm weird, but that isn't a deal breaker for her. She's probably glad that that don't exist, 'cause if the chance came along I'd probably have to hit some pussy
been there, done that ... it end me ditching her and starting a doggy marriage
I would always put my love relationship over a kink of me.A love can make you happy for a life-time.A kink only for a few hours.
well there lack of willing to participate is perfectly understandable, if they arent interested you cant force them to be or expect them to pretend to be so to please you; though if they where to forbid you from doing so yourself is wher ei would begin to question the integrity of the relationship; it would depend on there reasons for seeking to forbid you. it would also depend on your strength of feeling for your partner, if you love them you may have to make sacrifices if not then perhaps its not the relationship for you anyway
Well i confessed to both ex wives and both were very jelouse of their own dogs as they all paid more attention to me then to them and i wasnt having sex with them. well needless to say they are exes for those reasons that jelousy ate the relationships apart. It would be so nice to find someone who would join me in my pleasures but i doubt that will ever happen and i will be in the closet forever.
The only things you can change are habits like smoking or drinking and even those are hard.I am who I am and there is no force in heaven or hell that can change me. If you don't like me for who I am 100% of the time than I don't need to associate with you. Its that easy. People find out very quickly how poor of an idea it is to demand any thing of me. That might make me an asshole to some or that friend you really want behind you when the shit hits the fan.
I would NEVER EVER force my g/f to participate, or even push for it. If a person isn't into it.. the person isn't into it. She's fine with me being into it and that's all I could ask for and i will NEVER ask her to try it cause i know she would never be up for it. As for her forbiding me to watch or participate? She has no right to tell me to do so. I am my own person and i will do what i wish. And i treat her to the same mentality.
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ah but if that is the case would she be allowed to have sex with someone other then you?
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I mean that within the standards of a relationship. My view of a relationship is to be dedicated to one person and one person only. She is the same way. What I meant was that she could be into what ever she wanted(zoo, bdsm, fisting, w/e) and do what she wanted, within the standards of a relationship. I will never cheat on her and she will never cheat on me. I think anyways and she says. I believe her because we both have a horrible past due to relationships. We both were cheated on in every relationship til this one. Don't really expect either of us to cheat.
but your haveing sex with an animal is cheating1 a monogamous relationship is were you have sex only with one partner if you are having sex with her and an animal that is a polygimist relationship. sex with any living thing other then your girl friend is cheating and so many people dont seem to realize that.
Ah but I have you on that one. I myself have never done anything with an animal. Am I willing to? You bet. But as I've stated before, I don't want it from anyone but my girl, she is amazing and is tight enough and gets so wet she literally sucks the condom off of me probably every 2 times out of 10, and yes I do get the correct size. Also as for that, I don't really see her caring if I ever did something with an animal, just as long as it isn't another human female. And obviously I wouldn't care if she did something with an animal, obivously would if she did somethimg with another guy. Am I going to do it? Probably not as long as I'm with her. Another thing I said before is being with one PERSON and one PERSON only. While animals, dog's for example, are smart beings, they're not quite a person.
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