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By Brianna HerseyQUOTE Would you fuck a dog? Would you let a dog fuck you? What if you were a lonely shepherd, grazing your livestock on open pasture in the remote highlands; would fucking a sheep be desirable if no human orifice was available?The imagined life of shepherds was the crux of a recent conversation I had with my mother. In our exchange, she justified bestiality as a natural extension of men’s sexual desires. “A hole’s a hole,” she told me with a giggle. I suppose one might think about holes so indiscriminately if one reduces sex to inserting a cock into an orifice. But my conception of sex is more nuanced, and animals have never crossed my mind.My initial scorn for my mother’s dismissive rendering of male sexuality may have been dealt too quickly, however. Upon inspection, the world of bestiality is also nuanced. The term bestiality refers explicitly to sexual activity between humans and animals, but zoophilia is the preferred term for those with a sexual or non-sexual attraction to animals.Zoophilia does not necessarily connote sex with animals. There are those whose chosen life partner is an animal – a horse, a sheep, a dog – and where no sexual contact is involved. In other instances, sexual contact is involved. Those who like to receive or give oral, anal, and vaginal sex from or to animals are said to be of the sexual orientation called “zoosexuality.” It’s quite a happy term. It reminds me of the llamas at the petting zoo outside Toronto.Videos from bestiality-porn site [SPAM] show human-animal sexual encounters in which the animals do appear happy: humping human holes, panting away. From the videos I watched, there didn’t seem to be any obvious harm done to the animals. In fact, many of the videos showcased dogs spurting semen onto the bums of women as human males looked on.Ejaculating dogs aside, I find it difficult to believe that an animal can provide consent. But zoosexual-positive web sites list the many ways that animals non-verbally signal that they are ready and waiting for sex. A key argument in favour of zoophilia is that animal abuse is not typical or condoned within the zoophile community. Since humans perform surgery, castration, or euthanasia on animals without their consent – not to mention killing them and eating their flesh – is a horse’s consent really necessary to jerk him off?Famed animal liberation philosopher Peter Singer writes about cross-species sexual activity in his 2001 article, “Heavy Petting.” He argues that humans are very similar to other mammals; we copulate just as they do. Singer writes, “The taboo on sex with animals may have originated as part of a broader rejection of non-reproductive sex.” Hmm. Are zoosexuals just queers in disguise? Many web sites suggest that zoosexuals are akin to queers because both sexual orientations have been marginalized from the mainstream. They speak of having to “come out” of the zoosexual closet. “Knock, knock!” “Who’s there?” “It’s me, Mom. I like touching goats”.It is easy to make light of an adult getting off with a pet, but the shame associated with such behaviour has serious consequences for people who feel their primary bond is with animals. So where do we draw the line between appropriate and inappropriate behaviour with animals? Should such a line be drawn at all? If the animal seems happy and the adult is consenting, I suppose there is no real harm. And if we disregard the possibility of a meaningful cross-species connection, we would alienate animal lovers the world over.In the end, I have to retreat from my original disdain of my mother’s bestial shepherds. Judging zoophiles gives them license to judge me. And who wants stones thrown when your house is made of queer-tempered glass? I am not entirely cool with boys and horses, girls and dogs, but in an open and diverse society, it doesn’t matter if my comfort is partial. It doesn’t matter if I am comfortable at all, so long as the animal and human are both happy and getting off.
Thanks for sharing the story!I feel its very appropriate point of view for us to look at!
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Excellent posting there and thank you for taking the time and making the effort and making my day just that little more bearable. BZ.
Nicely written It's good to see some people thinking with some common sense about this.
This brings up an interesting contrast between acceptance and tolerance. She pretty much comes out and says she doesn't like it, but can't complain because she's not perfect either. We could only be so lucky that all people had this sort of outlook, but I also don't want to be merely tolerated because I caught them in some sort of technicality. And even though the “A hole’s a hole" comment was most likely said in jest, it is still at our expense and really should be stamped out if possible.
It certainly does seem like the author grudgingly accepted a neutral stance toward zoophilia. But all things considered, mere tolerance is the least we can hope for, and the more people who can settle on those kinds of logical conclusions, the better. Even if some of the wording wasn't exactly pleasant to read, I give credit to those who are willing to step back and objectively analyze the subject.All too often, it seems that personal bias and disgust at unconventional practices clouds people's judgment. Regardless, I still wish more people would understand the greater significance of zoophilia, that it isn't all about sex and "getting off".
QUOTE (ZetterGRD @ Sep 17 2007, 06:46 AM) All too often, it seems that personal bias and disgust at unconventional practices clouds people's judgment. Regardless, I still wish more people would understand the greater significance of zoophilia, that it isn't all about sex and "getting off". yeah...but, you can't expect people to "understand" your fetish (or lifestyle) if it just isn't appealing to them. I'd say more than 50% of heterosexual men don't "understand" being , but are more than willing to tolerate it (i.e. I don't like cock, but whatever floats your boat!). You can stand there till you're blue in the face trying to explain why it is that you prefer animals over humans, but they don't have to and can't "understand" in the end, why it is that you do. I was just reading about these balloon fetishists who just can't live without humping thier balloon, and think inflated balloons are suffering and aim to save all of them (im not kidding.) I don't care WHAT thier reasoning behind that is, and honestly I don't care to hear it, but if they want to go around humping thier balloons I could not care less. But don't ever expect me to understand that oneJust as long as they're willing not to string you up by your asscheeks in the end is what matters to me. You can accept something without understanding it, and I think thats actually a more positive outlook than expect people to understand zoophilia
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I agree with the other posters, its nice that this person stepped outside their box and observed it from a logical standpoint to come to a conclusion that they are able to understand. Understanding is a step in the right direction towards acceptance, I don't know but I think if s can get accepted into the community, we should be able to as well. I can accept people just understanding though, its better then them just thinking its disgusting and wrong and that we need to be saved or something. So kudos to the author on being just and making others lives easier.
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Really good post.Its a shame she didn't find BF on her internet browsing though!
Great post. My late mother said after watching my father screw a cow . "Well due to my condition, we can't have sex anymore, I am glad he found a release for his sexual needs , I know that he still loves me. He will be more pleasant to live with." Then added , "I suppose a cow's vagina is warm ".
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Thanks for posting. This small thread gives people out there some measure of comfort I would guess. It is easy to condem a person and laugh at them for their desires. People want to feel accepted by others and that is why many who have the same desires will mock and scorn another because they are ashamed to admit things about themself to themselves. It is mch easier to ridicule than it is to accept. Believe me I kow.
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