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Whilst surfing the net as you do I came across this article, now I couldn't care less what 26 or 27 is about however, what I did find interesting was how casual he was about the discussion of animal sex.I thought it might be fun when one of us comes across examples of non-titilating reference to animal sex they post the link inthis thread. We've had other threads making occasional reference to the media and indeed to hopeful norming.I thought it might make a useful resource if we gathered links to pages which talk about it as a normal activity, without some element of the taboo about it.What do you guys and girls think?http://www.richardherring.com/warmingup/warmingup.php?id=555
moved to zoophilia
Doh! Thanks Wyld, you are dead rightshould have posted this here in the first place!
Interesting article, and fun to read it But I don't think we should over-interpret things. This article does not seem to be entiretly serious. Even if people joke around with the thought of having sex with animals it doesn't mean that they would actually do it or permit it in any way.Sorry if I sound negative, but I just want to be a bit realistic
I agree, it was an amusing read but definitely not something to be taken seriously. The "Okapi sexy rear-end" joke returns in his other articles, and never appears to be serious. He is a comedian, after all.What strikes me as most interesting is that he's 40, but I suppose that's because I'm mostly accustomed to people of a younger generation, at least when it comes to jokes about animal sex. I don't watch many comedians, but I can more easily imagine a 25 or 30 year old comedian using such jokes for their shock potential and edginess.
I agree. I didnt see it as too serious in nature. Good read though, took up some of my boring day.
Yeah, a bit sarcastic. But I have to admit, the okapi were hot, I was eyeying them up when I was at the zoo too. I felt that they were the sexiest of the zoo animals I saw that day. I liked the giraffe too, I took some pics of the females urinating up close. I'd definitely do a giraffe.
Hm, very impressive! It's interesting how calm one can be about it.One lit candle in a dark world makes it so much brighter.
I recognise that the article is toungue in cheek and indeed he uses it as humour. What I find interesting is the casual way he has used the subject, much as he would a mother-in-law reference or similar material. Normally when comedians aim for the big taboo stuff they make more of a fuss as they recognise how 'controversial' they are being.For me I think it is a terribly dim light in a seemingly endless tunnel that would be our journey to openess. Whilst I never expect us to be mainstream, it is another piece of non-sensational context out on the internet. The more the merrier. When you couple it with things like that film released in America earlier this year and that supposed quote from the porn actress. It just shows that society are becoming less shocked by bestiality, which is a good thing.A long way to go before people actually start campaigning for rights, however I'll take a degree of norming over what we have had so far. Who knows perhaps decriminalisation would be nice!
Mainstream society has in the past, and will in the future, continue to become less intollerant with issues it is increasingly exposed to. As society become desensitised to a particular social issue... In this case (beastiality) desensitisation would occur through having increased access to pictures, clips and stories on sites like this and be further reinforced by the ever increasing volume of people that are willing to talk about the subject and the ever increasing amount of people who admit to participating in the practice, actively or passively.... the issue becomes less and less taboo and moves closer and closer to the boundaries of acceptability.Examples of the past (no offence to anyone intended) include; Woman getting the vote, same gender unions, swearing, the adult entertainment industry and swinging.
One day it might be more commonplace (who knows even socially the thing to do). I dont think ill see it in my lifetime. Maybe in the next one hehe
It wont happen. At most, it will be as acceptable as and lesbian. Seeing as ignorant people still wont allow marriage between s and lesbians, I wouldnt hold my breath on seeing zoophiles accepted into society, at least not within the next 100 years. People are too closed minded, and anything outside of their understanding, is wrong and immoral. Sad truth
I think it is becoming slowly and gradually more mainstream. There is a difference between something being more prominant in the public consciousness and something being "acceptable." Look at sitcoms like Will & Grace that focus on main characters. I don't think you could have had something like that even a few years earlier. The more that ideas that are taboo become familiarized, the stigma that comes with them slowly fades away. Yes, this article is sarcastic/tongue in cheek, but the fact that it even discusses the topics that it does at all is a sign that it is becoming more prominant in the public consciousness. Does that mean someone will read that article and say "Hey, this must be okay"? No, of course not... but it might just put a seed in their brain that will slowly germinate, and later down the road when they hear of beastiality or zoophilia again, it might be less shocking this time. This is how things slowly become normalized in society. Another example: When The Simpsons debuted, there was a public outcry over the show being too rude/inappropriate. Now, X number of years later the Simpsons seems extremely tame, and now we have South Park which is much more offensive and no one really cares about it. What used to be shocking eventually becomes normal.
"In fact I decided that I might have sex with an Okapi even if I didn't have to have sex with one of the animals. I was thinking of giving it a go there and then, but again, didn't want to make my date feel uncomfortable."Haha Okapi though...
Maybe I should have chosen my wording better. One day we MIGHT be tolerated, but I dont think we will ever be accepted or liked by most people.
In the movie Neighbors with John Belushiand Dan Aykroyd. Belushi played a uptight married man who gets new and uninhibited neighbors. These neighbors own a large male Doberman. I even think Ackroyd comments on his dog having a large set on him. Later Belushi catches his wife secretly giving the dog a large raw steak to eat. Later Belushi hears his and Aykroyds wife giggling together in his bedroom. When he tries to open the door, he finds that it's locked. You then hear the dog bark a few times while they wives continue to giggle and laugh. Belushi starts to knock and asks his wife to open the door. He's ignored and the wives continue to giggle and say while saying, wow that's a good boy. Belushi eventually gives up and just leaves them. Also check out cheaper by the dozen 2. Carmen Electra is briefly humped by Steve martin's family dog.
To cite another partial example of exposure to society, I was watching the new game show Power of 10 last night. One of the questions was something like "What percentage of Americans have kissed their dogs on the mouth?" Apparently the answer was 32%.I was a little surprised to see something like that on the show, which probably has a good size audience. Had a nice joke to go with it, but I can't remember what it was. Even though it didn't hint at anything sexual, I'm sure a few people must've been baffled by the poll, and maybe got a few ideas in their heads. Television is the largest gateway to use for exposure, where comedians and cartoons like South Park and Family Guy rely on the use of shocking or unconventional subject matter for their style of entertainment. Because these shows have such large followings, it helps to ease the subject into society as a whole.
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QUOTE (ZetterGRD @ Aug 16 2007, 02:33 PM) To cite another partial example of exposure to society, I was watching the new game show Power of 10 last night. One of the questions was something like "What percentage of Americans have kissed their dogs on the mouth?" Apparently the answer was 32%.I was a little surprised to see something like that on the show, which probably has a good size audience. Had a nice joke to go with it, but I can't remember what it was. Even though it didn't hint at anything sexual, I'm sure a few people must've been baffled by the poll, and maybe got a few ideas in their heads. Television is the largest gateway to use for exposure, where comedians and cartoons like South Park and Family Guy rely on the use of shocking or unconventional subject matter for their style of entertainment. Because these shows have such large followings, it helps to ease the subject into society as a whole. Red rocket, red rocket South park
I don't think it's something that'll be accepted for some time. Gradually, yes, but it's still going to take many many years. I doubt this man is a zoo or beasty, but there is no real way to tell. In his humor he could be saying he is - or could be saying he's not. His way of wording things has left no real way to know. Cover-ups are often better cover-ups if you tell people what you're hiding. Sometimes they wont' catch the true meaning.
Not in this life. Far better to stay in the background for me.LTD
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