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i have talked to other zoos and some are very friendly and good people, like many of you in this forum...but the majority of my experiences with people that are zoo haven't been so great....I have talked with a couple females, but they were into [CENSOR] as well and were trying to push it upon me-i don't mind it, but i'm not into it at all-and whats worse! is 1 of those females clams that she is involved with her 3 year old daughter!, i didn't have enough info on her to report her to anyone, all i had was her screen name for the messenger....I have a profile on beast dating and even though i clearly state that i am taken in my profile and don't want to have sex with any guy, i always get guys wanting me to have sex with their pet AND them!...i know there has to be some like minded zoos out there that aren't so pushy...it seems like i always get the bad apples:(has anyone else expierienced these kind of people when mingling with other zoos?
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Yes I have met alot of very Dominate pushy people into zoo. As for why this is, I'm not quite sure why. Maybe its the fact that when an animal has sex with you they do dominate you and it attracts more people into that kind of stuff.I assure you there are alot of good minded zoos out there, you will find someone.
I have found this same thing. Every man want to meet you, even if he can fly across the country to do it. I used to share pics till I ended up on the front page of a pay site. (that made for an acward thanksgiving with the brouther-in-law) It seems odd. I have even had a member of this forum come across three states to find me, come to my door and demand I have sex with him. Guy was a total stalker. And no I did not say anything else other than the name of the town I live by... Was a bad time. I left the forum for a long time after that.I have on the other hand meet many people that are real and nice. There are good people in zoo but I have learned to be very carefull. Mybe too much so. I dont post pics and vids for that reason. I am afraid!! I am glad that some do. I love to look. But I dont think I could ever do it my self....
I think I've talked to the one with the 3 year old.. I found that out and immediately blocked her. =/Being as young as I am, and a female into this, I get TONS of creeps out there contacting me.. wanting sex with me.. watch me.. etc etc etc.. Very few are actually zoo in their own right, some just want to see a woman 'degrade' herself.I have had guys try to convince my becaues of my 'dirty' ways there was no one else that would accept me and love me and that i should date them because they would be kind enough to share me with an animal when no other male in thier right mind would.There are TONS of bad/disgusting/annoying people out there and unfortunately you have to go through a lot of crap before you find the good ones.There are some nice, genuine people out there, its hard to find them with all of the mainstream voyeurs here. I wish you luck with it.. don't give up there are some out there.
now i don't feel so alone, i see I'm not the only one finding it hard to find good people, i thank you for the encouragement...as soon as someone tries to pursue something that i don't want to be involved in after being told i don't want to be involved, i immediately block them, sounds rude but-no means NO!
Part of the problem with being zoo, and in forums that are open to the public is that you'll get all types of people in there, and many feel that if your willing to have sex with an animal then you'll be willing to do anything, so you end up getting a lot of strange pushy requests. With the number of people in here and on other zoo sites there are always going to be that type of person. You also can't discount that just because someone is zoo doesn't mean they aren't an absolute ass. I've met some great people who were zoos, and I've met my share of jerks, unfortunately the jerks are so much so that they stand out in your mind, especially by the sheer degree of their arrogance and stupidity.
Ugh, its sad to hear about such bad experiences, considering the community in general is pretty small as is. Its a shame that so many of the male gender think its ok to not treat women that are zoos with respect, let alone people in general. Being open minded to other forms of sexual exploration is fine and all, but this whole pushy thing you guys speak of is just ridiculous. If the person is not into said act you can discuss it civily, but there is no reason to berate or force others into it.Gives us males a bad name Heres hoping that everyone eventually finds what their looking for.
Yes, there are some guys bahaving badly, but there are some goodones to. What is distubing to me, is the atitute of some males that as soon a girl agrees to talk confdent things, they start treating the girl as a trophy. And yes they do think that if a girl is doing it with animal,, than she must desperate for sex, and they feel that they have the right to have sex with the girl becouse theyr are humans. I personaly feel that this type of guys see the sexual activity as a sport or something. I think that whats missing here is the motivation by love., They would stick theyr penis in anything just to get theyr rocks of. Than there is the lack of imagination, and most guys will ask the same questions. Theyr first question would be,, what breed is he ? how big is his cock ? hjow did you start ? how often are you doing it ? does your husband know ? ect. Well I can not chat here in beast forum,, it will not open, but I'm not missing it. I was chating in another bestiaslity chat, since I started with the neighbours dog. And I must admit that my best experiences are with women. I found the perfect and experienced woman to guide me step by step howto train the neighbours dog. And one day I met a californian girl, she was so sweet that I fell in love with her (blush). Antway , I feel that all the lonely people who are having animal sex parters, they must maintain contact to humans,, or they could become feral people. We married woman are lucky to have both. But I don't know about males. But I did chat with several men who are only involved with animals, and I have dicovered that they are already diferend. I supouse the best solution would be if they would find a zoophile woman to share his life with, than both would have what they need.
Tell me about it. I'm always getting pms from horny men who wants to chat and have sex with me. Even though on my userpage I explained how I am in a relationship and any pms looking for fun will be ignored. Thank goodness, though. I never had a really bad experience.
Yeah i hate it when people pressure you into these things :< Iv had it happen to me, but the person wasnt into beast/zoo. Just wanting me to be their net gf or for me to have sex with them.
It's funny for me because I have a feminine-sounding handle and I get PMs and private chats saying something like "so, you ARE a babe, right...?" This even though my penis is in my avtar.Oh, if you can't hit the chat here it's probably because your computer doesn't have enough video memory, this one is barely capable and if I stay on too long it locks up.
wow I cant believe that we have had so many of the same run-ins. Too bad realy. I have met some real nice guys on here that have been kind, but you do really have to watch who you are talking to.....
Yes, I can sorta relate... I've never shared any pictures of myself for fear of it getting out. I am an attractive male, and although I am strictly straight and into women of the opposite sex, I get pushed to have bisexual experiences. It's just not my thing.
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I'm emotionally conflicted as to respond in this thread, or not. I am sure there are people who will take offense at what I say. Since I am posting, in my defense I say these are generalities and they don't necessarily apply to any specific individual. If you feel they don't apply to you, then they don't. Please don't get upset and feel like you need to write to me to tell me that you aren't like that.The people I've met on the internet (especially when bestiality is concerned) fall into one of four categories.1) real wackos2) posers3) cops4) genuine peopleIt is usually pretty hard to distinguish between any of the first three categories, since any one person could fall into any or ALL three of them at the same time. However, since I don't have any interest in them, that's not a problem. It's usually pretty easy to tell the first three from the last category. The problem is the last category is in a very, VERY, VVEERRYY small minority. I actually can't make any generalizations about the genuine people. I haven't gotten to meet enough of them to form any. That is also probably because real people are unique. It is a pleasure to find one.The other categories, well, here's what I've seen: almost always, they are males, usually single (well, I suppose the cops could be married - but don't get me started on the police), and have no real knowledge about animals even when they claim to be in the room with one. They know what they've SEEN in pictures and READ in stories. That will possibly fool people who have only seen pictures and read stories. Once you've really done it, well, it's different from the pictures and the stories.Even the "females" that fall into those categories are usually single males. Just two weeks ago, a couple contacted me. Well, a male contacted me saying his girlfriend wanted to learn how to do things with their dog. She started to chat with me. To make a long story short: there was no girl, there was no dog. Only a pathetic lonely single male. Yes, once caught in the lie, he admitted it. I imagine that when a poser meets another poser, they each get their rocks off, everyone is happy, and no one is the wiser.I don't know how many of each category I've met. The more strange (or perverted, if you prefer) a person is, the more I suspect poser. As soon as children are mentioned, I suspect cop. The best advice I can give is to immediately make clear you aren't interested and block all communication with these people. Even a small conversation with the wrong person about the wrong thing could be enough to get you busted in a bad way. Think it can't happen to you? Anyone here remember what happened with the Amatuer Action BBS? Real scary stuff. (I'm willing to bet a lot of the same pictures that they had can be found in this forum.) Oh, and don't think the whole "cops can't lie, so ask them if they are a cop" thing will protect you. That's urban legend, and frankly, cops don't want the truth about that known. It would make their job that much harder.I could probably rant for pages, but I won't. No one wants to hear me spewing for hours on end.Good luck.Nicki
Just an observation, the same categories could apply to any sexual activity. There are wackos in every walk of life, the posers or stalkers, the cops of course and genuine people. To, to many fake people looking to harvest e-mail, scam you etc. It is a shame and if you, or I or anyone else should happen to meet s REAL person out there be careful and take good care of him/her.
A small suggestion, remove your IM info and screen through pms~
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QUOTE (k9.hottie @ Jun 20 2007, 03:51 PM) I'm emotionally conflicted as to respond in this thread, or not. I am sure there are people who will take offense at what I say. Since I am posting, in my defense I say these are generalities and they don't necessarily apply to any specific individual. If you feel they don't apply to you, then they don't. Please don't get upset and feel like you need to write to me to tell me that you aren't like that.The people I've met on the internet (especially when bestiality is concerned) fall into one of four categories.1) real wackos2) posers3) cops4) genuine peopleIt is usually pretty hard to distinguish between any of the first three categories, since any one person could fall into any or ALL three of them at the same time. However, since I don't have any interest in them, that's not a problem. It's usually pretty easy to tell the first three from the last category. The problem is the last category is in a very, VERY, VVEERRYY small minority. I actually can't make any generalizations about the genuine people. I haven't gotten to meet enough of them to form any. That is also probably because real people are unique. It is a pleasure to find one.The other categories, well, here's what I've seen: almost always, they are males, usually single (well, I suppose the cops could be married - but don't get me started on the police), and have no real knowledge about animals even when they claim to be in the room with one. They know what they've SEEN in pictures and READ in stories. That will possibly fool people who have only seen pictures and read stories. Once you've really done it, well, it's different from the pictures and the stories.Even the "females" that fall into those categories are usually single males. Just two weeks ago, a couple contacted me. Well, a male contacted me saying his girlfriend wanted to learn how to do things with their dog. She started to chat with me. To make a long story short: there was no girl, there was no dog. Only a pathetic lonely single male. Yes, once caught in the lie, he admitted it. I imagine that when a poser meets another poser, they each get their rocks off, everyone is happy, and no one is the wiser.I don't know how many of each category I've met. The more strange (or perverted, if you prefer) a person is, the more I suspect poser. As soon as children are mentioned, I suspect cop. The best advice I can give is to immediately make clear you aren't interested and block all communication with these people. Even a small conversation with the wrong person about the wrong thing could be enough to get you busted in a bad way. Think it can't happen to you? Anyone here remember what happened with the Amatuer Action BBS? Real scary stuff. (I'm willing to bet a lot of the same pictures that they had can be found in this forum.) Oh, and don't think the whole "cops can't lie, so ask them if they are a cop" thing will protect you. That's urban legend, and frankly, cops don't want the truth about that known. It would make their job that much harder.I could probably rant for pages, but I won't. No one wants to hear me spewing for hours on end.Good luck.Nicki Excellent advice K9, this is pretty much guide worthy stuff right there.A big 10 for you
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Well, the human mind is a terrible thing to taste, and its better to be extremly paranoid, becouse if you do find the right one only time can tell.
QUOTE (tazman99 @ Jun 20 2007, 11:07 AM)A small suggestion, remove your IM info and screen through pms~ Yes, I have considered it. In the past, I have removed them. But ultimately, people are here to meet people. To do that, they need to be able to contact you (even the guests). It means I get more undesirable people contacting me, but it means I may get more genuine people contacting me.In for a penny, in for a pound.
QUOTE (k9.hottie @ Jun 20 2007, 11:51 AM) QUOTE (tazman99 @ Jun 20 2007, 11:07 AM)A small suggestion, remove your IM info and screen through pms~ Yes, I have considered it. In the past, I have removed them. But ultimately, people are here to meet people. To do that, they need to be able to contact you (even the guests). It means I get more undesirable people contacting me, but it means I may get more genuine people contacting me.In for a penny, in for a pound. You are right in that~ I guess that's where the good old block option comes in~
I think everybody has bad experiences in just about any group. The truth is that there are a lot of jerks in the world, my view is that you should not let them bring you down.
...two posers getting their rocks off an no one winning, that's a great way to put it - I wonder how often that happens Good point about people knowing what they've seen - there's the 'what breed of horse' thread in this section where a dubious character is trying to convince us that the tip of a stallion's penis is rough.Back in the old days, the self-proclaimed Real World Zoos would piss and moan about posers and "zoophilophiliacs" who were not zoo themselves, but into people who were zoo. *shrug* I'm not so sure there's such a wave of zoo-lovers out there, but it gave the RWZ another label they could slap on people they didn't like.
It's almost impossible to go into the chat room without being inundated with pm's within two minutes. The entire screen fills up with mens pm's asking things like.. "How big are your tits baby". I've had many men ask me to fly across the country to meet them, or they would do the same.. and that is within minutes of talking with them. I receive many messages in my inbox like this too. Fortunately, I have met a wonderful man here. He is brilliant and professional, considerate, loving and kind, he's handsome too. This man has all of the wonderful traits and is naughty as well.. excellent combination. So ladies.. there are some keepers out there.
Well We are walking down the wrong side of the tracks and we know it..The board is open to new members so it takes time to sort them out..Cops. I have know many who are more unbalanced than we are by far..Fact is there is a major problem with underage on the web. We need to cleen that out.. The flip side is they are not looking at us here.. If we do not keep our board cleen some body will cleen it for us.We need to take a hard look at our selves as well as the company we may keep.I do not chat and can hardly type so I see I have missed nothing. There is, it seems a need for the people to to love the animals they have as partners.. Respect and kindness should be the norm..Rus
Yeah, I've had a few really bad experiences.I got lots of pm's when I had info about what I have in the way of critters in my profile.So I got rid of that and then I got pm's from teh pictures I posted wanting to visit and play with the critters..I just wanted to meet folks and chat, like minded folks and all that, I figured the rest would follow, though I never really said that. SO I put "I don't share my critters." so now I don't get *ANY* pm's.. heh.. whatever.I used to want to share my critters with folks who didn't have access to stallions themselves. I figured no harm could come of it. Sadly, I was wrong. Eventually I started to share again, but with a few different rules. That worked out.. OKAY, but now, I'm married, so I'm less inclined to have folks visit. Plus I've moved to a state where it's not legal.. soooo.. The risk is simply too high, and the returns... zero. I had a lot of folks who visited simply stop chatting with me once they had their "taste".It's.. difficult.. There aren't any clear answers, and there are no absolutes. Just possibilities. What we make of them, and what we are willing to pay to provide them or pay to have them provided (pay as in emotional expenses, bad experiences etc, not money) is entirely up to the individuals involved.my.. poorly filtered .02 for the day.Hawse
wow, i'm a new member, and i found this thread kind of sad. I had no idea there were so many creeps/stalkers out there. I hope that people can still be a little open to us real zoos out here and not let the creeps take over this board.
This thread is one of the reasons why I'm not a prolific poster in general. I guess I'm paranoid about the creeps mentioned and the possibility that the puritans have infiltrated the board and gathering information on everyone. I don't know how likely that is, but sometimes a little paranoia can be a good thing.
Oh my god these are some serious horror stories! Gaillikesd's story seems like its from a nightmare, not reality! I was already a pretty cautious person in life, but now i'm freaked right the *@!$ out. I feel like saying sorry just for being in the same species as them.....sorry!
I agree with the people who are practically mortified by this thread.Being new to this forum, and in my case still a virgin to the lifestyle. Even moreso, a single male that to date has only watched the women that love their animals (and enjoyed that very much).It really makes me sad to see so many stories of grief from these members. Another thing that disturbs me is the association that zoos receive with child pornography.I for one was thinking long and hard about checking out the chat room. Even looking for ladies from this forum that were likeminded and maybe even willing to share a relationship with myself and our animal friends. But I think for now I will just take it easy and make a few acquaintances instead. Then friends. And much further down the line when people become more familiar with me, possibly look in the direction of seeking partners.I would also like to apologize to anyone who has had to endure this, from anybody who could be so... wrong.
Without going into specifics, I have managed to avoid some bad situations from people that really creeped me out after awhile. One even involved a guy that was arrested and made it into the local evening news! Even guys get pestered a lot, to share their animals or try to pushed into or bi sex, even if was made clear that we are straight with hyoomans. Pushy people like to think they can 'change' you. I hate that. All I can say is its going to happen at some point to every practicing zooey, where they've let it be known that they are active or currently have a pet, whether you are sharing or not. Just always think twice and be incredibly careful about your own privacy.
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Yea, now that I've posted a few pictures I've gotten plenty of requests asking if they could have a chance with my animals...although I have gotten some offers to come visit others. The creeps are out there, but so are a hell of a lot of good people.
I wish I cold say I was surprised by what I'm hearing but in truth I'm not. Ive already had my self requests to come make use of my animals as if they were a public utility in my time here. I just smile and nod more or less and ignore the requests. As a rule if some one wants to be my friend they need to be able to speak about things out side of sex. Being zoo does not mean I or many or the real people here are ruled by nothing more then hormones regardless of what some clueless people think. Witch is what I class people who IM mean and cant seem to talk about anything else. I am pretty careful about what I say in general as well till I get to know the person. Still I have scene signs that there are plenty of good people here.
Unfortunately if you are female and involved with animals then some males think that its open season on you, regardless of your age. I have received offers and requests for my address, photos, videos and interment details of my private life. I have been polite but keep almost every body at more than arms length.
Ladies,Do not assume that everyone here is a zoo. There are probably more zoo voyeurs than zoos. There are a huge number of men attracted to the idea of women with animals even though they are not interested in animals themselves. That is probably why most of the commercial porn is with women and animals.I highly suspect that the reasoning is "If she boffs dogs, then surely she will boff me!". That of course is not at all true, but it is commonly believed. I have never hit up on any woman on a zoo site even when they have emailed me. I am interested in talking with them but nothing more. I like mares!
QUOTE (Old Zoo @ Jun 22 2007, 10:23 PM) There are probably more zoo voyeurs than zoos. There are a huge number of men attracted to the idea of women with animals even though they are not interested in animals themselves. That is probably why most of the commercial porn is with women and animals. And probably explains why its badly faked as often as not in the interest of the ladies for what there doing.
Hmm kind of scary reading al these posts. I will say that on the comment that men assume that if you boff with a dog u will bof with them also , may or may not be true . Some men really enjoy watching a women enjoy herself and only want to watch and that may be all . I can see why women are leary cause you never know.
Don't be scared, just be aware of that aspect of a site like this. Any paraphilia will attract some creepy people, so everyone here should be on their guard. You're being brave to contribute anything constructive to this forum; imagine how many people are reading this board and they have things to contribute, but they will not cross that line to put themselves into the record. And, for many good reasons.
I've thankfully never had very bad experiences with other members, but I can imagine there's strange folk around.I do tend to be the one to make first contact though and only with people that seem trustworthy to begin with.
I have seen lots of guys like what you describe. I cant stand them but unfortunately they are. I have said it before and got blasted for it but I will say it again allot of the guys who are here (NOT ALL BUT ALLOT) are not into Zoo but seeing a girl get demeaned by getting f***** by a dog. They are not into the animals them selfs but are into watching women get f***** by a dog. I have seen it on my forum as well and we do not allow it. IF a guy contacts a female member with out her permission and starts in like that they can find them selfs banned pretty quick. I cant stand HNGs who just want to get laid. And as lots of you have said they think that just because a girl is into zoo she will f*** anyone. I truly love a girl who is into zoo. But I was into zoo way before I ever met her. When we met I knew she was zoo but that did not matter. To me she was just another zoo friend. It has grown into allot more now. Part of the difference I think is that I am also into animals myself. Not just one of thoes guys who would never do an animal them selfs. It still drives me nuts when she gets those types of messages. This is actually the main reason my board does not allow Hook Up posts. Lots of other dating boards out there we figured we would make a place where every one could feel safe that the person they were talking to was not just trying to f*** them.
Unfortunately, boys (I don't seem to have ever encountered girls) behaving badly do seem to frequent sex forums and similar sites. I'm sure there are women who are not behaving well at all, as the first poster here mentioned ... but mostly, its the guys. I remeber being in chat rooms years ago, when I was checking them out for the first time, and the women would always get hit on pretty hard; same ol' s--t today, too. A site like this, where people all talk more or less openly about sex with animals, probably attracts a certain type of guy, who gets off on the idea of women as objects or sex toys or sexually desparate, or depraved or something. Frankly, I don't get it, but that does, seem to be the way it is with some men. I think it probably reflects a generally low opinion of women in general, some real phycho-sexual problem, or both.I've had somewhat similar issues to some of the women here, but not nearly so severe. I've always loved to masturbate (read some of my posts, and you'll see, lol) and used to visit a few boards and chat rooms about masturbation. Male masturbation. To no one's surprise I'm sure, a good many of visitors to such sites were gay, or bi. I'm straight, my few jerk-off sessions with friends when I was younger aside. But there was always some guy I'd start talking to trying to turn the conversation to gay sex, or convince me I was gay. Or I'd be chatting enthusiastically with some str8 guy, and he'd make some comment about me being gay. C'mon guys. I like to jerk off, you like to jerk off. We both have penises. Who else you gonna ask about this stuff. Get over it. Usually what happened was most of the gay guys and even the straight guys I chatted with or traded posts with were very happy talkng to a straight guy about playing with our penises. No doubt, the gay guys may have gotten a little more enjoyment out of our discussions than I did. Which was find with me. But there were always the ones who wanted to make an issue of something. This is one of the most pleasant places I've found. Of course, I'm a guy, so no one really bothers me. And I don't do IM's, and I don't post personal pictures, I'll spare you that. But I haven't had any unpleasant experiences with people claiming to be zoos, or 'better zoos' than I am. As I've said before, I've enjoyed sex with animals, but don't really consider myself a 'zoo,' though I've always tried to treat the animals I've been intimate with gently and with respect. And other animals too. I mean, that's just common decency. So maybe my lack of an agenda, or commitment to the issue, or lifestyle, has kept me out of the field of fire, for now. Another stream of consciousness post from me, with a point in there somewhere.
What the f--k is up with all the flying pigs in my last post????Ok, I turned off the emoticons. Damn, that freaked me out.
LOL Dogger I know what you mean man
QUOTE (Old Zoo @ Jun 22 2007, 10:23 PM) Ladies,Do not assume that everyone here is a zoo. There are probably more zoo voyeurs than zoos. I highly suspect that the reasoning is "If she boffs dogs, then surely she will boff me!". That of course is not at all true, but it is commonly believed. I agree with Old Zoo. I am a voyeur, however most guys are in one way or another. As far as men behaving badly, well it just ain't some on this forum. Just turn on the T.V. and you will see it around the world. When I first came to BF Dixidoll gave me some advice "Best to keep your private pleasures private." Good advice darlin!Having said that all, I do appreciate those generous souls that share their pictures and movies with us here. Also the moderators who help keep it civil on BF. As a voyeur who likes women I do enjoy it here. Pap.s. This voyeur does welcome email/pm/s from women. I do enjoy your thoughtsand will never show up on your door step at thanksgiving.
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I want to send a personal thanks to K9Hottie. She pointed out how vunerable i was on my profile. I didn't have any personal info on it to view, but one link, that would have had the weirdos and such at my front door. Once I get my business page to par, so that i am safe, I will repost the link so everyone can see what I love to do. SOOOOO Many thanks to K9Hottie for looking out for other people!!!
QUOTE (Curious_Bi @ Jun 25 2007, 11:42 PM) I want to send a personal thanks to K9Hottie. She pointed out how vunerable i was on my profile. I didn't have any personal info on it to view, but one link, that would have had the weirdos and such at my front door. Once I get my business page to par, so that i am safe, I will repost the link so everyone can see what I love to do. SOOOOO Many thanks to K9Hottie for looking out for other people!!! No problem. We need to keep an eye out for each other, on here and in the real world. It's what community is all about.You'd be surprised what sort of information one can find on the internet. Once, during a dispute with my phone company (Citizens Communications), I looked up the name, phone number, and address for the company's CEO. People returned my calls after I got her involved. ;-)For everyone who is the slightest paranoid: I recommend googling yourself and seeing what pops up. I don't know how they get some of the things they have, nor do I know how to remove it, but at the least you will get an idea on what is available.
Don't they call that ego surfing? Yeah, that can be spooky sometimes.
I totally agree that there are a few bad seeds out there, ive had my share of people asking for my personal #'s and etc. but when it comes to that I totally close off the PM. that way they get the picture,. Though I have Talked a few friends like Cetacean and Bradatl, and a bunch of others. I regularly keep in touch with people and those that i feel uncomfortable with I tend to shy away from. Well im gonna go nowmost of you get my point, so best to be polite and friendly, then asking and saying the wrong thing!
i was using the chat feature a week ago and i get invited to a private chat with some guy and he goins ASL??? then i say im a guy and they go oh me too and leaves. its kinda funny actually.
people are soooo desperate for sex. I can't say I understand it. I'm as randy as anyone but when i was single if i wanted some action i went out and found some. If they spent half as much time in the real world sniffing out a target as they did online, i think they would be much more successful. At least then they could know if it were a man or a woman from first sight!!
QUOTE (offtopic @ Jun 27 2007, 01:16 PM) people are soooo desperate for sex. I can't say I understand it. I'm as randy as anyone but when i was single if i wanted some action i went out and found some. If they spent half as much time in the real world sniffing out a target as they did online, i think they would be much more successful. At least then they could know if it were a man or a woman from first sight!! That's the thing, I think. These people wouldn't get any in the real world. For whatever reason, they are so socially inept, their last, best chance is on the internet. I think they then follow the thinking that "oh, she'll have sex with a dog, I've got a great chance!"That's a really mean view of people, but my gut says it is pretty much true.
QUOTE (daneish @ Jun 27 2007, 11:14 AM) i was using the chat feature a week ago and i get invited to a private chat with some guy and he goins ASL??? then i say im a guy and they go oh me too and leaves. its kinda funny actually. Same here, several times. Once or twice they've stuck around and we had a decent chat anyway.
Live and let live to some degree is what i say. Plenty of members here have no problem watching their wives at another members house with their dog and perhaps even share with the ownerI'm in agreement on the guys though. I love the rush of this, however I have zero interest in having sex with a man or indeed when married, watching some guy join my wife.As for the member with a 3 year old, lock the damn monster up and throw away the key.
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no matter what forum you may be on...or chat room you are in... there are going to be stalkers and gawkers.....a good checklist on what is acceptable and what keeps you feeling safe is a good idea...I have certain criteria before I will meet someone.....talking on the phone.....for hours is one of them
All very good advice, and Curios Bi touched on another. It's healthy to be somewhat paranoid, because every site is frequented by sickos. I get sick when I see some of the My Space type ads from young people revealing too much info.So, especially some of your straiter sites, your own business, ebay etc. should be just as discreet unless unwanted attention can be dealt with via PM or something.For the most part I've met good people on here, and some other sites. But I have had several encounters with bad apples.Some are just not discreet enough, or too pushy and demanding. A lot of the guys I talked to are real boors, and a few of the women are just teases or not women at all. (talk about desperation).What really bothers me. is the association with criminal elements. Even on some of the more tame boards. The attitude that if your involved in this, anything goes and you will be non-judgmental and accepting of anything they suggest or offer.It doesn't pay to confront them either, just silently dissapear. I think the game with some is getting caught & then they become confrontational, and possibly obsessed and stalking.
In reality, I've pretty well packed it in so far as a personal relationship with another zoo is concerned. I'm pretty well convinced this forum is as close as I'll get ! One also has to realize that mutual desire for zoo encounters isn't all that's required for compatability! Finding someone who's a zoo and who is also compatible in other areas seems to me on the same order as filling an inside straight- or climbing two mountains simultaneously! One can always hope, though lol!
The way I handle it is I never form any relationships from or based on this lifestyle. Not saying it's the right way, but it's how I get by. With that said, I form relationships like anyone else would, and based on how those relationships go, the idea is hopefully the one that's "right for me" will hopefully be into it too. Here's to hopin'.
I am inclined to agree with the members who say that the problem is not with zoo at all but rather with people. My $0.02 is that it is with people who do not respect themselves and so cannot show respect for others, they are all over the world, in every walk of life. I started my life with bad experiences but I am determined to live it anyway. Just be careful, treat yourself and others with respect and courtesy and if someone makes you uncomfortable, I call it making my tummy squirm, end the communication right then and there. You will probably feel like a total jerk for being judgmental, I know I do, but you know what? What gives them the right to treat you that way? You do. You empower it by allowing it. Show the respect for yourself to say no and end it and then give yourself a pat on the back for taking good care of you.
Privacy. Security.Now there's a few major reasons why I've been a "lurker" for so many years. I've been very active reader/downloader of beast forum, [SPAM], petforum and few other forums but never posted almost anything. I would like to be an active poster of the community, but my fears about zoo side of me ever going public is just too scary and humiliating thought. If someone would google my real name, he/she would find lots of information about me.. and this is too much information already.And also, being marked as the most dangerous people in the net - single and male (atm) - doesn't really help with finding company. It's almost impossible to get anyone to talk to with you about zoo, especially women. I've tried to approach via email but i've never gotten any answer, no matter how polite and friendly I've been. I'm really not interested talking about zoo with other men..But, I'll keep lurking, maybe sometimes write something up, like now. I'll be waiting for ages to get the 25 posts done for downloading rights.. Not a big deal, I understand the reasons behind it. But it's a shame though that 'lurkers' have so bad reputation with active community. Just try to remember that most of them are - in fact - spreading the word in their own way.. Thank you for the great forum btw. You are wicked ppl.
QUOTE (rrarr @ Jun 20 2007, 04:00 AM) I think I've talked to the one with the 3 year old.. I found that out and immediately blocked her. =/Being as young as I am, and a female into this, I get TONS of creeps out there contacting me.. wanting sex with me.. watch me.. etc etc etc.. Very few are actually zoo in their own right, some just want to see a woman 'degrade' herself.I have had guys try to convince my becaues of my 'dirty' ways there was no one else that would accept me and love me and that i should date them because they would be kind enough to share me with an animal when no other male in thier right mind would.There are TONS of bad/disgusting/annoying people out there and unfortunately you have to go through a lot of crap before you find the good ones.There are some nice, genuine people out there, its hard to find them with all of the mainstream voyeurs here. I wish you luck with it.. don't give up there are some out there. Ah yes, I get lots of people, even in the BF chat, trying to date me. It annoys the crap out of me
I have to say, my experiences with everyone has been rather nice. Everyone I have "met" is very friendly and they generally seem to be genuine people. I've rather enjoyed my time in this community.I'll be completely honest though. The people I have "met" have all been online, and I have not known any of them for more than a few weeks. I have not yet had a single offline meeting, and although I would to meet up with a few people, I don't see that happening.I think the whole thing is that I may be too trusting in people. I know about safety and security, but I am a sucker for believing what people have to say. I'm not stupid... just nice.There is my unorganized $.02
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