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Okay, I've seen several basically "oh crap, I got caught with the pup" threads or people biting their nails on revealing their zoo lifestyle to their partners. My question is, if you know you could never do without the sexual relationship with animals and are still actively apart of that lifestyle, why do you enter into relationships where the person has know idea about this or you have no idea if they would support you?Was it before this site where you could directly seek people out? Do you not want to limit yourself? Did you find out "hey, I'm a zoo afterall" after being with your significant other for some time already/ you were already in love with them? Oh, and why don't some of you even try once a relationship with a human that can share your passion and love for your lifestyle?
The real question.. is why would you want to be with someone who doesn't accept who you are? I personally won't date someone who isn't into zoo, or at least accepts it. I've talked to too many people who are married and unhappy with their husband/wife not accepting their lifestyle.
People always pay a price for this life style.For me outside of the forum people and I jenerally agree to leave each other alown..I am what people in the majority call unpopular.. I learned as a child the best way to deal with people was to avoid them..Later after 20 plus years of hell I changed my stratigy.I tell people to leave me alown and when they do not I make an example of the person and I assure you people in a groop do not mess with me again..That said There are 2 dear friends I have and some how a wife and Smith & wesson. Thats 5. In the outside worldMy axceptance here has been more appreciated then most know..Anmals do not judge you or tease you and they are very good listeners..People seak what they consider week people for sport to make themselves bigger by making the other person the but of there jokes and strikes. I have never had an animal do that to me..And no human in the last 20 so years has gotten away with it eather..Funny humans learn by example though.So the people who are my friends know and except my lifestyle as I except others in theres..Rus
The reason why I do is the fact that animals can not give me the same level of emotional response or attachment that I require. I love my animals love them very much. But I need relationships with humans as well...I am currently dating a zoo in any case. She knows all about my zoo side as well..
I don't. I don't date non-zoos or zoos. I made attempts at possible relationships with humans, but they have just turned to crap. It also didn't help that the strong feelings needed to make a relationship work weren't really there to begin with.I get the emotional attachment I need from my girls. And sometime within the next few months I will probably get the physical closeness I desire. I have no need for deep relationships with humans. I have a few human friends, but that's all other humans serve for me. Just friendship is all I require from other humans. Nothing emotional or physical. Because I don't always want to go places alone. And since I am incapable of bringing one of my canine lovers into any establishment such as a movie theater, I go with a human friend.I have been betrayed, lied to, picked on, and mentally tortured by over 2000 humans in my 26 years on this planet. And the number will just increase as the years go on. Anything more than friendship is unneeded for me when it comes to humans. And out of the 3 people I consider real friends, 1 is a zoo, another completely hates this lifestyle, and the third doesn't really care one way or the other. Only 2 of them know I am a zoo, and the one that hates it doesn't know, and if I can help it, never will know.
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I get along with most people, I'm friendly and like people. But I sure in saint hady won't date or have a serious relationship with a non-zoo, that is playing with fire. I have many friends and I live with two other zoos, so I am not lonely by any means. But I am not going to shun a relationship with another zoo or zoo friendly if that should ever arise, and if it doesnt I won't cry any. I am happy with my lifestyle right now and not going out of my way to try and change it.
I haven't tried in awhile...due to some other circumstances, and my overall happiness with my dog. I certainly wouldn't mind finding a woman who I'd be able to share my love and care for animals, but to be honest my future doesn't look all that good, and I wouldn't want to put someone through what it probably has in store for me.
I have a girlfriend who knows I'm a zoo, but she thinks of it as a bad habit, rather than what normal people would think.
This is an interesting question. Never having been in a relationship myself, I can't offer a concrete opinion on the subject. However, I will add some thoughts.It's no secret that zoos are rare in society, and speaking purely in terms of numbers, that limits our choice of human companions by a considerable amount. So even if people meet other zoo or zoo friendly people, other relationship factors for general compatibility would still have to be considered for any long term relationship. Being zoo simply may not be enough in common.If someone can't share a relationship with another zoo, a normal human will suffice for basic needs. Aside from the range of human sexual relations, people like someone close to confide in, someone to talk to, eat dinner with every night, share living expenses and earnings, things like that. If the choice of partner is either zoo or nobody, there is a large potential to miss out on otherwise normal human fulfillment if it is so desired.As for starting a relationship with another zoo, I will admit to thinking about it on occasion. However, it ranks low on the list of the few things I desire in life. I suppose I'm open to it happening in the future, but I won't place any faith in it, and I don't see myself putting any effort into such a relationship anytime soon.
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Personally, if it comes down to a choice between the woman I love and the zoo lifestyle (as I have a feeling it will since the lady I'm interested in would have no part of it) I will choose the woman. This lifestyle just isn't worth it to me.
In reality, the question comes back on itself if you think about it. Non-zoo's ask us why were attracted to animals, and no matter what reasons we can concieve, in the end it comes down to the base word "attraction". You cant wholly explain why your attracted to something deep down, its just there. Now when i met the lady that was to become my wife i never even thought about whether or not she was zoo, non zoo, zoo friendly, etc. There was simply something about her that i was drawn to. Needless to say i didnt sit down to dinner with her and her family and say "Pass the gravy please, oh and by the way, i screw mares on the side". I'd kept things to myself for 10 years, so what was a little longer?Eventually it came out, but it hasnt changed a thing. Is she into it herself? Nope, however true love is accepting everything about someone, you dont get to pick and choose, thus she now views it as "better than looking to hook up with some loose woman" and often there are times when she's worked a full day and is too tired to keep up. The "baby im going to bed, if you want some, best go to the barn" line means i dont pester her when she's too tired Love has a will of its own, and once it has you your stuck till it lets you go.G.S.
QUOTE (akaricloud @ Jun 3 2007, 02:42 AM) The real question.. is why would you want to be with someone who doesn't accept who you are? I personally won't date someone who isn't into zoo, or at least accepts it. I've talked to too many people who are married and unhappy with their husband/wife not accepting their lifestyle. akari really hit it on the head here with the line about being with someone who doesnt accept you for who you are.And then when I think about it..... you cant pick and choose who you fall in love with, can you? Or even try and limit your feelings? Love is a tricky emotion to deal with under any circumstances and it never follows guidelines..no matter how hard you try to control them. Anyways, its more fun to let your feelings go and soar with them.....as opposed to trying to restrict them within 'socially acceptable' limits and taboos.... this is all IMO anyway...interesting thread.
I just had to bump this because once again I was so confused on how someone was again frustrated on having to hide part of themselves from their partner, and I just remembered this thread and had to re-read this in its entirety. I was once again perplexed that someone would put themselves through all the drama with a person that is only their girlfriend and not their wife. I'm sure no one wants to limit themselves, but now you're going to be limiting yourself in how open you can be with your partner, satisfying your sexual needs, and being stressed and anxious for no reason at all. I guess I would expect someone to just be quietly at peace with having their secret and realize it's their choice or break up.
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Course I could, I never would limit a relationship on personal beliefes and likes unless they deftly stabbed into my own.. Personally I like a womans company more than an animals, there's just some things a woman can do that an animal couldn't hehe.
The zoo-being is just one thing that is common to us. In most other aspects we are different, and it is by far given that we will like each other just because of that common interest. I have heard of CON's where there were quite some tensions between te members..The internet has become the way for zoos to meet, before those days, we were pretty alone. The net is still young, a large number here has come to know each other before that. And there are situations in life where those who have not turned humans their back, meet someone the come to like in all matters - except for the one that this nice person is not into bestiality at all.
QUOTE (GreatDana @ Jun 3 2007, 02:17 AM) Okay, I've seen several basically "oh crap, I got caught with the pup" threads or people biting their nails on revealing their zoo lifestyle to their partners. My question is, if you know you could never do without the sexual relationship with animals and are still actively apart of that lifestyle, why do you enter into relationships where the person has know idea about this or you have no idea if they would support you?Was it before this site where you could directly seek people out? Do you not want to limit yourself? Did you find out "hey, I'm a zoo afterall" after being with your significant other for some time already/ you were already in love with them? Oh, and why don't some of you even try once a relationship with a human that can share your passion and love for your lifestyle? Very good questions... for me, when I date, being a zoo does not ever come up... I could care less if they are and since I don't share my secret w/ anyone, it's not a problem... in fact, I am not really sure if I wanna know that about them... hey, but that's just me...
QUOTE (Valaska @ Jul 28 2007, 04:00 AM) Course I could, I never would limit a relationship on personal beliefes and likes unless they deftly stabbed into my own.. Personally I like a womans company more than an animals, there's just some things a woman can do that an animal couldn't hehe. When you say "deftly stab into your own (personal beliefs)" that seems to be different from what I meant about the the people living with someone or dating someone all stressed out about their "secret". What I'm pointing out is someone totally altering or stressing out about their life, not just having contention with their partner over personal beliefs like religion or politics.Personally if I am just dating someone my sexual business is my business, but marriage would be different and then I wouldn't be with someone that would have me keeping a humongous secret and then complain about it or be shocked when shit hits the fan--at least for people that have taken it to the level of being a total lifestyle. It seems like you could probably live with or without the zoo lifestyle for the benefit of your partner?
QUOTE (dixiedoll @ Jul 28 2007, 08:51 AM) QUOTE (GreatDana @ Jun 3 2007, 02:17 AM) Okay, I've seen several basically "oh crap, I got caught with the pup" threads or people biting their nails on revealing their zoo lifestyle to their partners. My question is, if you know you could never do without the sexual relationship with animals and are still actively apart of that lifestyle, why do you enter into relationships where the person has know idea about this or you have no idea if they would support you?Was it before this site where you could directly seek people out? Do you not want to limit yourself? Did you find out "hey, I'm a zoo afterall" after being with your significant other for some time already/ you were already in love with them? Oh, and why don't some of you even try once a relationship with a human that can share your passion and love for your lifestyle? Very good questions... for me, when I date, being a zoo does not ever come up... I could care less if they are and since I don't share my secret w/ anyone, it's not a problem... in fact, I am not really sure if I wanna know that about them... hey, but that's just me... That's totally my take on it. To be honest, I place my human companionship as a bigger concern for me, so that's the person I will be life partners with and still have whatever level of a loving relationship with my animals, but I wouldn't let the latter trump the former but neither would I allow one or the other to cause me stress if I'm really that serious about either. Wirehair, I was a little confused by your post but welcomed the input.
Can we try and look at this from another perspective?If a person is without contact with either female humans or an animals on a sharing but not necessarily sexual relationship then surely any relationship with a female human is of value. At the same time consider that possibly the person is physically incapable of partaking of a sexual liaison then it must be better to have a relationship with a human female simply because the physical disabilities can be discussed.If a person is ONLY attracted to an animal at the expense of a human then there is surely no problem apart from gaining the animal.On a purely personal level, it would be wonderful to share anything with another human, preferably female, life disappears down the drain extremely quickly as the years catch up with emotions that cannot be expressed.Therefore, understanding that there is a need to share at least some part of our lives with another human being, male or female it makes no difference, it is a basic need.No doubt others will contest that idea but that is what a discussion forum is all about!Pokerman
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I guess that relationships are complicated. Ideally it would be best to be totally open with your significant other, but sometimes I suppose that you're not too sure about how you feel about it yourself. Presumably people feel ashamed and embarrassed that they find animals sexually attractive, this is apparently totally normal.Sometimes you just got to work through the guilt etc. for yourself before you're ready to share it with others, which I guess is understandable. I'm fortunate in that I long ago decided to accept myself for myself, and so before I got married, I made sure that my wife understood what she was letting herself in for. Only fair to warn the poor woman. Real life does not always follow the ideal, but you just got to muddle along somehow. I guess that a significant other "catching" you could be pretty bad at the time, but hopefully everything works out in the end.Also, last I checked, "I like watching women being shagged by dogs" was not the best pickup line.
It is hard enough in this world to get into a relationship with a man NOT into this... I mean I have been single for a good 6 or so years now(not married or in a very serious relationship) and everything I have tried has turned to crap.. either they werent everything I was looking for or visa versa... the ones I have found that were zoo, beast, or at least accepting of this part of me ... either turned out to be creeps or creepy.. and the few that actually are 'normal' live thousands of miles away, are already in relationships and either want something on the side or cant make up their mind about where they want their life to go ... but for me being zoo isnt my be all end all... if I were to fall in love and my man was sexually adventureous, faithful and loved me totally... I would be a happy woman... I would still have my pets as I cant see my house without at least one dog hanging around... but for me it isnt all about being able to have sex with my pet... Ill have the love and the bond there even if I am in a so called 'normal' relationship... being zoo-sexual isnt imperative nor is it needed... for me it would just be a little extra spice if it were to happen..
well I have to say that the reason that I dont have a girlfriend is because I just dont like the ones I have met. They have always been stuck up bitchy or just not attractive to me. Also I just have this bond with large dogs where they seem like people I would like to meet. They are loving fun and dont judge you on anything. I just think about a big old male husky and hugging him and that gets me through my dogless time right now. If I could only find myself a husky I would be so happy.
It's hard to find other zoos out there lol. I'm sorry, it just is. Besides on here. You just can't go up and flat out ask. I date, rarely revealing my secret of being a zoo. When I do, if they shun me, it's over, if they say oh, i see, well all to their own i guess. I'll keep them. why? because they atleast don't mind. They're neutral. I'm quite content with a neutral person, but i'd be too too happy if i find one willing to try or that has and likes it.. It's just hard.I'm always lookin for a female zoo in my area. No guys, sorry, i'm not bi nor , just never got curious to try male humans. I'm bi-curious with dogs though. That said... you live in central indy hit me up
QUOTE (GreatDana @ Jun 3 2007, 02:17 AM) Okay, I've seen several basically "oh crap, I got caught with the pup" threads or people biting their nails on revealing their zoo lifestyle to their partners. My question is, if you know you could never do without the sexual relationship with animals and are still actively apart of that lifestyle, why do you enter into relationships where the person has know idea about this or you have no idea if they would support you? Hi, long time reader and first time poster here. I've wondered about this question myself, to the point where I almost put an ad in this forum's personals (which is a bit like spitting in the sea if you're a straight single man, so I didn't bother!).I think the greater question is, can you really form a successful relationship based on sex? Okay, so you'd be eliminating potential embarrassment/disaster later on but you're ultimately looking for someone based on a shared interest in a particular sexual activity. Is that a healthy foundation for a long term relationship?Or am I completely wrong?
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QUOTE (Cdf123 @ Jul 29 2007, 12:33 PM) QUOTE (GreatDana @ Jun 3 2007, 02:17 AM) Okay, I've seen several basically "oh crap, I got caught with the pup" threads or people biting their nails on revealing their zoo lifestyle to their partners. My question is, if you know you could never do without the sexual relationship with animals and are still actively apart of that lifestyle, why do you enter into relationships where the person has know idea about this or you have no idea if they would support you? Hi, long time reader and first time poster here. I've wondered about this question myself, to the point where I almost put an ad in this forum's personals (which is a bit like spitting in the sea if you're a straight single man, so I didn't bother!).I think the greater question is, can you really form a successful relationship based on sex? Okay, so you'd be eliminating potential embarrassment/disaster later on but you're ultimately looking for someone based on a shared interest in a particular sexual activity. Is that a healthy foundation for a long term relationship?Or am I completely wrong? it all depends on how you go about it... if your only looking for that person that will have sexual relations or will allow you to have sexual relations with animals.. I can see it as being a problem.. but if you go in thinking your making a new friends someone to share this side of you with and it progresses... then I suppose you can build a very solid foundation for a lasting relationship... I actually have met 4 different men here and in the chatroom that I thought I could possibly have a relationship with... 2 turned out to be out and out assholes(which I can also find out in the 'normal' world... dont need zoo to be a part of it to find an ass.. ) one lived so very far away(this is actually why I will not entertain the idea of a long distance relationship... I would rather be alone than to deal with the loneliness you feel not being able to be near someone you want so very much).. and we sure did try for the longest time but finally realized it couldnt be... neither of us could move nor really wanted to I think... but I honestly believe in my heart if we had lived in the same area .. we would still be together to this day... it is amazing how you can discover how wonderful a person is without ever realizing your looking for it.... I cant really discuss the last one though... as it cant be either.. but in the back of my mind I sure wish we could try and see where it goes... but I guess that is neither here nor there... I would like to think that you could form a lasting loving relationship and have sex be a main focus at the beginning.. if both parties are open the the idea of a relationship and you find qualities in that person of what you always wanted in a life partner.. but both parties have to be open to the idea or nothing will ever come of it at all... I am actually one of the rare women who honestly believes you have to have a healthy sex life to have a heathly relationship... so discovering that first cant be a bad thing.. if the end product is something you both want...okay enough rambling for now....
I found it quite hard to meet zoo friendly female human. I found that the best way, besides actually having sex with an animal, was having sex with a woman while fantasizing that it was really an animal. I find Fantasizing with a woman is better than having sex with ms. palm and her five daughters.
QUOTE (wyldfyre67 @ Jul 29 2007, 09:02 PM) it all depends on how you go about it... if your only looking for that person that will have sexual relations or will allow you to have sexual relations with animals.. I can see it as being a problem.. but if you go in thinking your making a new friends someone to share this side of you with and it progresses... then I suppose you can build a very solid foundation for a lasting relationship... Fair point, well made.Still, it's hard to convince a new person that you're not just looking for sex when you get talking to them via the internet
You have to be who you are. If others don't accept you, then its not worth your time to be with them. Not saying that it sould be the first words out of your mouth, but when the topic of sec comes up, don't be shy. People will always judge, you just gotta be above that.
QUOTE (GreatDana @ Jun 3 2007, 02:17 AM) Okay, I've seen several basically "oh crap, I got caught with the pup" threads or people biting their nails on revealing their zoo lifestyle to their partners. My question is, if you know you could never do without the sexual relationship with animals and are still actively apart of that lifestyle, why do you enter into relationships where the person has know idea about this or you have no idea if they would support you?Was it before this site where you could directly seek people out? Do you not want to limit yourself? Did you find out "hey, I'm a zoo afterall" after being with your significant other for some time already/ you were already in love with them? Oh, and why don't some of you even try once a relationship with a human that can share your passion and love for your lifestyle? hmmmhard ?a long time ago pre internet and b4 i ever heard of BFi tried tyo hide from what i was.mostly due to it being socialy unacceptabl;e and agianst the belief values i was raised withso to appear normal and disprove i wasnr i married ((shes a fine enough person, but shes not a zooshe dose like/klove anuimals almost as much as i but would NEVERtake it to the sexual leveli did tell her b4 we wed about thisbut i,ve never let her know i,m still as active as i amand we dont talk about it(so i apppear normal to all around mebut many dog or horses know better))p.s as good or as bad as 20 + yrs of marriage has been i wouldnt leave her over/for this.nor would i want to not have done it as we have a FINE wonderful son (18 now)and dont think its cause shes hot in bed))))i,m just comminted to the end))heck i anit that fantictic in bed either (lol at least with humans))
QUOTE (wyldfyre67 @ Jul 28 2007, 04:14 PM) It is hard enough in this world to get into a relationship with a man NOT into this... I mean I have been single for a good 6 or so years now(not married or in a very serious relationship) and everything I have tried has turned to crap.. either they werent everything I was looking for or visa versa... the ones I have found that were zoo, beast, or at least accepting of this part of me ... either turned out to be creeps or creepy.. and the few that actually are 'normal' live thousands of miles away, are already in relationships and either want something on the side or cant make up their mind about where they want their life to go ... but for me being zoo isnt my be all end all... if I were to fall in love and my man was sexually adventureous, faithful and loved me totally... I would be a happy woman... I would still have my pets as I cant see my house without at least one dog hanging around... but for me it isnt all about being able to have sex with my pet... Ill have the love and the bond there even if I am in a so called 'normal' relationship... being zoo-sexual isnt imperative nor is it needed... for me it would just be a little extra spice if it were to happen.. I really, really love your posts and I have a question for you in PM
QUOTE (HairBear58 @ Jul 29 2007, 09:01 PM) QUOTE (GreatDana @ Jun 3 2007, 02:17 AM) Okay, I've seen several basically "oh crap, I got caught with the pup" threads or people biting their nails on revealing their zoo lifestyle to their partners. My question is, if you know you could never do without the sexual relationship with animals and are still actively apart of that lifestyle, why do you enter into relationships where the person has know idea about this or you have no idea if they would support you?Was it before this site where you could directly seek people out? Do you not want to limit yourself? Did you find out "hey, I'm a zoo afterall" after being with your significant other for some time already/ you were already in love with them? Oh, and why don't some of you even try once a relationship with a human that can share your passion and love for your lifestyle? hmmmhard ?a long time ago pre internet and b4 i ever heard of BFi tried tyo hide from what i was.mostly due to it being socialy unacceptabl;e and agianst the belief values i was raised withso to appear normal and disprove i wasnr i married ((shes a fine enough person, but shes not a zooshe dose like/klove anuimals almost as much as i but would NEVERtake it to the sexual leveli did tell her b4 we wed about thisbut i,ve never let her know i,m still as active as i amand we dont talk about it(so i apppear normal to all around mebut many dog or horses know better))p.s as good or as bad as 20 + yrs of marriage has been i wouldnt leave her over/for this.nor would i want to not have done it as we have a FINE wonderful son (18 now)and dont think its cause shes hot in bed))))i,m just comminted to the end))heck i anit that fantictic in bed either (lol at least with humans)) Ooooh, this is interesting. She's knows you were active before though? You don't regret not telling her for personal reasons or for "the good of all" so to speak?
honestly I was hiding my feelings for other species for quite a while fearing for my gf to find out...one day I walked in on her with my dog rocky she screams Oh shit I didnt want you to find this out....and I just sat there staring at her and said...holy shit I LOVE YOU lol I couldnt beleive that the girl i was in love with was hiding the exact same thing from me that I was hiding from her lol....basically what Im trying to say is why not date nonzoos you'll never know they may be zoo's in hiding
QUOTE (sheperdlover777 @ Jul 29 2007, 11:20 PM)honestly I was hiding my feelings for other species for quite a while fearing for my gf to find out...one day I walked in on her with my dog rocky she screams Oh shit I didnt want you to find this out....and I just sat there staring at her and said...holy shit I LOVE YOU lol I couldnt beleive that the girl i was in love with was hiding the exact same thing from me that I was hiding from her lol....basically what Im trying to say is why not date nonzoos you'll never know they may be zoo's in hidinglolTrue... It's safe in my closet, and I'm not coming out any time soon. So to anyone I meet outside of BF, I'd look like a non-zoo. Animal-loving non-zoo, but non-zoo all the same...sheperdlover, you are so lucky!
QUOTE (GreatDana @ Jun 2 2007, 09:17 PM) My question is, if you know you could never do without the sexual relationship with animals and are still actively apart of that lifestyle, why do you enter into relationships where the person has know idea about this or you have no idea if they would support you? You usually don't get the chance to choose that special person you decide to get involved with. You can't say Ok, I'll only fall in love or get involved with a zoo friendly person. Good luck trying to find a relationship or a mate that way. As for me, I could've given up the lifestyle at any point if my hubby had asked me to. If he hadn't accepted it when he first learned about my activities, I'd never have continued on with it. So if you simply value your human relationships more than k9, getting involved with someone who turns out not to be zoo friendly is not the worst thing that can happen.
there's no easy way to answer that personallyI imagine that there are just a few things I can't get from animals or at least thats how I feelwhen I'm with someone nothing else in the world matters, I can forget my attraction to animals, or just not think about it.but having found this forum I feel maybe it's easier to find someone else who's into this stuff too
QUOTE (darkshadowsearcher @ Jul 30 2007, 08:49 AM) QUOTE (sheperdlover777 @ Jul 29 2007, 11:20 PM)honestly I was hiding my feelings for other species for quite a while fearing for my gf to find out...one day I walked in on her with my dog rocky she screams Oh shit I didnt want you to find this out....and I just sat there staring at her and said...holy shit I LOVE YOU lol I couldnt beleive that the girl i was in love with was hiding the exact same thing from me that I was hiding from her lol....basically what Im trying to say is why not date nonzoos you'll never know they may be zoo's in hidinglolTrue... It's safe in my closet, and I'm not coming out any time soon. So to anyone I meet outside of BF, I'd look like a non-zoo. Animal-loving non-zoo, but non-zoo all the same...sheperdlover, you are so lucky! yes I feel that I am a lucky person that I found someone that shares one imbarressing thing with me lol...you should really try and find someone interested in beastiality just look for the signs man...animal over likes their privacy....respects animals
QUOTE (sheperdlover777 @ Jul 30 2007, 11:55 PM) yes I feel that I am a lucky person that I found someone that shares one imbarressing thing with me lol...you should really try and find someone interested in beastiality just look for the signs man...animal over likes their privacy....respects animals I think a respect for animals is a given when it comes to relationshipsI could never see myself with someone who didn't have the utmost respect/love for animals
For me, I couldnt pass up the chance to be with the perfect girl just because of my preference towards animals. I love animals but you have to have human interaction too. If that means keeping my zoo life secret then so be it. I can live with it as long as Im not caught. But Im ussualy really good about not making stupid mistakes and getting caught with things like that.
QUOTE (InTheHeat05 @ Aug 1 2007, 06:22 AM) For me, I couldnt pass up the chance to be with the perfect girl just because of my preference towards animals. I love animals but you have to have human interaction too. If that means keeping my zoo life secret then so be it. I can live with it as long as Im not caught. But Im ussualy really good about not making stupid mistakes and getting caught with things like that. hahahaha yes sneakyness its a key item in the life of a zoophile
Well first I can't believe I missed this post the furst time around. At anyhoo, well its a two part question in the original post. Why seek human relationships at all? Well, while some zoos can successfully be zoo exclusive, I suspect most zoos, and certainly beasties, still desire some human contact at some level. Whether this has to do to being wed to some nebulous idea that should have a normal family life, or they simply like doing human things on a regular basis like talking, movies, dinner etcetera I can not say for sure.Part two, why don't we date/mate within out own class of persons. Well to be honest we as a people are few and far between. Further the very nature of our sexuality, requires that we hid it in public. Thus making it very hard to connect up with others of our ilk. Until society becomes more tolerant of us as a whole, we'll all be force to live a largely underground lifestyle.
QUOTE (energydog @ Aug 1 2007, 02:39 AM) Well first I can't believe I missed this post the furst time around. At anyhoo, well its a two part question in the original post. Why seek human relationships at all? Well, while some zoos can successfully be zoo exclusive, I suspect most zoos, and certainly beasties, still desire some human contact at some level. Whether this has to do to being wed to some nebulous idea that should have a normal family life, or they simply like doing human things on a regular basis like talking, movies, dinner etcetera I can not say for sure.Part two, why don't we date/mate within out own class of persons. Well to be honest we as a people are few and far between. Further the very nature of our sexuality, requires that we hid it in public. Thus making it very hard to connect up with others of our ilk. Until society becomes more tolerant of us as a whole, we'll all be force to live a largely underground lifestyle. that was almost poetic ::tears:: Bravo in describing it beautifully and doing so to reach all views on the matter
QUOTE (silkythighs @ Jul 30 2007, 04:20 PM) QUOTE (GreatDana @ Jun 2 2007, 09:17 PM) My question is, if you know you could never do without the sexual relationship with animals and are still actively apart of that lifestyle, why do you enter into relationships where the person has know idea about this or you have no idea if they would support you? You usually don't get the chance to choose that special person you decide to get involved with. You can't say Ok, I'll only fall in love or get involved with a zoo friendly person. Good luck trying to find a relationship or a mate that way. As for me, I could've given up the lifestyle at any point if my hubby had asked me to. If he hadn't accepted it when he first learned about my activities, I'd never have continued on with it. b]So if you simply value your human relationships more than k9, getting involved with someone who turns out not to be zoo friendly is not the worst thing that can happen. [/b] I bolded the last part of your great post because I think that's pretty much why most so far don't have any problem dating non-zoos and not actively only seeking out zoos because it's not such a prominent need in their life/ relationship. I just wish some of the people speaking about hiding from their wives were posting in this.
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QUOTE (energydog @ Aug 1 2007, 03:39 AM) Well first I can't believe I missed this post the furst time around. At anyhoo, well its a two part question in the original post. Why seek human relationships at all? Well, while some zoos can successfully be zoo exclusive, I suspect most zoos, and certainly beasties, still desire some human contact at some level. Whether this has to do to being wed to some nebulous idea that should have a normal family life, or they simply like doing human things on a regular basis like talking, movies, dinner etcetera I can not say for sure.Part two, why don't we date/mate within out own class of persons. Well to be honest we as a people are few and far between. Further the very nature of our sexuality, requires that we hid it in public. Thus making it very hard to connect up with others of our ilk. Until society becomes more tolerant of us as a whole, we'll all be force to live a largely underground lifestyle. I pretty much agree with everything you said but I'm surprised even now you still think zoos/ beasties are few and far in between enough that someone wouldn't just exclude themselves to fellow zoos. But to be honest, you're probably right and it's only this site that's allowed us to see the few hundred others interested in the same thing but that's far from a vast population.
Yeah but I don't need the person I'm in a relationship to be INTO zoo. I need the person I'm in a relationship to be OK with zoo. Neutral with it. If they're into zoo, great, we'll have fun times, I intend on getting another dog. But they just gotta be ok with it... Ok that I'm into it. If the person truely loves you, they should be ok with your ideals and fetishes, but that doesn't mean they have to participate in them.
QUOTE (GreatDana @ Aug 1 2007, 09:29 PM) QUOTE (silkythighs @ Jul 30 2007, 04:20 PM) You usually don't get the chance to choose that special person you decide to get involved with. You can't say Ok, I'll only fall in love or get involved with a zoo friendly person. Good luck trying to find a relationship or a mate that way. As for me, I could've given up the lifestyle at any point if my hubby had asked me to. If he hadn't accepted it when he first learned about my activities, I'd never have continued on with it. So if you simply value your human relationships more than k9, getting involved with someone who turns out not to be zoo friendly is not the worst thing that can happen. I bolded the last part of your great post because I think that's pretty much why most so far don't have any problem dating non-zoos and not actively only seeking out zoos because it's not such a prominent need in their life/ relationship. I just wish some of the people speaking about hiding from their wives were posting in this. I realized that before finding this forum I probably would've forgotten my lust for animals after meeting someone, it would've been "a phase" that I never talked about and wished never to bring up again, but now I have confidence, this is who I am, though if requested to I'd draw back from it, but I'm not going to hide it from a significant other
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