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Posted by hot_not on April 1st 2007, 18:15

Having just posted in related topic about telling others of our lifestyle, it started me thinking how we deal with not telling and keeping the secret.Having searched through the various threads( forgive me if I've duplicated) I can't see one that deals with this specificallyMuch has been mentioned on the forum about other peoples reactions when they find out about our zoo tendancies or how you tell them but I was wondering how others feel having to keep it a secret and how they deal with it.Whilst I am comfortable with my zoo tendancies as I'am sure most of us are, a recent situation with my g/f (who is so not into zoo) has made me feel guilty for having to hide it and defensive because she does'nt share my view of it.This is never happened quite like this before and I guess stems from her total distain and rejection of anything to do with sex with animals.So the question is do you hide/deny and how do you deal with it, and is it harder in a relationship?

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Posted by rus80 on April 1st 2007, 18:53

Well I have been around a long time and maried.Many people lead dubble lives to conceal things they do for many reasons.If you expose your self to people you have a very real security issue.This is considered a sex crime now for what ever reason and you will if charged find that life changing beyound your wildest dreems.My advise is find a girl friend who is comfortable with animals, a trainer breeder something like that..My gut feeling is you are going to have major issues with this relationship.To becomfortable the people involved must be at least comfortable with the existence of other lifestyles.She has told you what she thinks and from what you say finds it morally wrong.She has left you with a choice and has in her way made a choice. a person in love with a man posted here to find out about who we were as a groop and what she might expect because she loved the man but was not interested in being active at all. That would be a far better reaction.I do horses not people thoughRus

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Posted by hot_not on April 1st 2007, 19:40

RusThe g/f situation whilst it throws up issues is just another X on the list sadly which will reach a natural conclusion before long.Just interested in other peoples views and how they handle it. As I say its never been a problem before mainly because previous g/fs have either shared the interest or if not, have'nt made such a big deal over it. Over the years I've become adept at telling who is and is'nt into zoo, if I don't get the desired responce, I don't persue it.As usual you illustrate what a wise sage you are, so pleased you stayed with us.

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Posted by Prince_Xizor on April 1st 2007, 19:51

If I ever find a human who is *the one* for me, which I doubt I will, I would tell them. If they don't take it well, then you know what, I'm not going to waste my time with them.It's doubtful that you'll find someone coincidentaly that shares our feelings, but there are people, I know a few, who just are like "I don't really go for animals, but hey, that's your choice, and I think it's a perfectly alright choice, I have no qualms with it. It may be abit disgusting to me but I see no reason why it should come between us."Those are the people who should be your friends.My opinion, find someone here on BF. If you don't let yourself find someone who may not approve of zoos, and instead find someone who you know from the staret at least accepts zoos, that would be best.IMO.I don't really hide it, I just don't talk about it, except to my very close friends. If someone walked up to me and asked if I was zoo, I'd say "What's that?" though. Pretty much just because there's laws against it and the public opinion of it is so negative, though. If I was /bi, I wouldn't shout it to the world, but if someone asked me, I'd tell the truth. Even though that's not fully accepted yet, most people with at least some intelligence can see that's there'snothing "wrong" with it. It takes a very accepting/close person to accept zoos though...

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Posted by st benard on April 1st 2007, 22:44

It is not very often that one can find another soul who is truly into our life style. In my life time I have found it safer and easier to keep one thoughts and activities to one self. If you find another member of our life style then good luck to the both of you. Mind you I have only found a small number of true friends who were into animal sex.

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Posted by bubjones on April 1st 2007, 23:41

As a younger man living in a rural setting, I met and participated with several others having sex with animals. In all cases, that I am aware of, they all returned to, or turned to human sex. I have straddled the line and continue hiding my zoo feelings from all of my family and friends.

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Posted by gigaz on April 2nd 2007, 0:00

ditto, I hide it, as I also hide my impulses towards the same sex... I consider it the same thing, although I donīt go to other forums.

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Posted by ZetterGRD on April 2nd 2007, 0:01

I generally consider myself zoo exclusive, and I don't foresee myself being in a human relationship, so it's difficult to say whether I would admit my feelings in that situation. If I was in a relationship with another human, I wouldn't necessarily wish them to be a zoo as well, but rather just to be understanding.When it comes to general friends and family, I subconsciously try my hardest to avoid giving any sign of my interest in dogs, which leads to some weird paranoid behavior. For example, if there's a dog in the room, I'm generally reluctant to pet it or even acknowledge it's presence if it comes up to me. I often avoid looking at it, with the exception of quick passing glances.Even though I recognize that I'm being overly paranoid, I can't stop myself from acting that way in social situations. There are many times where I want to admit my feelings, but I am highly reluctant to do so in fear of the social repercussions.

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Posted by silkythighs on April 2nd 2007, 0:24

Luckily I didn't have to hide my zoo activities since my hubby new all about it. My hubby is the closest person to me, so he's the only one I'd have to hide my feeling from anyway.

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Posted by squad917 on April 2nd 2007, 1:16

I hide it from EVERYONE! Everyone but two people, which I have became very close with and felt I could tell them about it, they're as kinky as I am and just seemed like they would be fine with it.Come to find out, one of them thought about it a few times and when I told her about it, she was like, "I've thought about trying, but just never have." I built her up and she had some fun with her female dogs, then about 2 months ago her friend gave his male lab to her, they play now But until I find another person like them, I'm not telling anyone. But I do drop hints with other, they're just not getting it. Oh well.

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Posted by cbmx on April 2nd 2007, 1:40

It's hidden from everyone but my Friends here, close forum Friends get more real life visuals. I wonder if anyone seen me taking doggy butt pics in the dog park yesterday?

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Posted by lab girl 83 on April 2nd 2007, 1:48

Have a policy of deny, deny, deny. In RT anyway, totally diff with people i meet via the Forum, of course.In RT..its just too much of a risk and really..nobody needs to know something so intimate and personal unless they mean something to you. Only one ex lover knows about it. But otherwise..if the topic is ever raised..like in beer fuelled conversations etc amongst friends, I wrinkle my nose in distaste and snigger like everyone else. Hypocritical? Absolutely. I cant afford to have this particular secret unleashed on my local society. Yeah that sucks but ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

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Posted by fox_clamantis on April 2nd 2007, 5:28

Pretty much have to, there's just no way I really know if I can trust anybody. There are maybe one or two people I'd maybe consider telling someday, but there's just too much to learn if that somebody decides to ruin your life. I just sort of "blend in with the crowd" if zoophilia comes up in conversation with friends or family, and vent on these forums for the most part, where people are that truly understand.

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Posted by hornyinsocal on April 2nd 2007, 7:54

I've been a zoo all my life I try not to show it and keep it to myself..I have 2 lovly ladies who do accept me for who I am,and one that went screaming the other way after she found out. all well to each their own..as long as my two ladies can respect me I'm happy..take care all and be safe..horny in so cal..

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Posted by KitsArriet on April 2nd 2007, 13:10

I don't interact with all that many people, fewer still whom are important to me. Those that are important know all about me and my orientation, those that aren't important don't know a thing about it. Sometimes I'd prefer it if everyone I knew could understand me being a zoophile, if nothing more than so that I don't get hit with some generic "Check out those buns!" kinda conversation. Pretending to be attracted to humans is the most bothersome thing about it, but not disturbing enough for me to break the silence. There has been many a time when temptation would have me blurt out everything, but doing so would very likely cause nothing more than unrest amongst those that I would tell.The farthest I go is wearing a Zeta pin on a bandana around my neck at all times. I suppose it's there as a sign to others in the know. Some think I'm too ballsy for wearing it, but should someone anti-zoo recognize it (hasn't happened yet) I can always shrug it off as some stylish thing without a known meaning.

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Posted by flehmen on April 2nd 2007, 19:38

All of my friends and people who's around me know that I love horses. Nobody knows (or at least is what I think) I have sexual intercourses with them.My friends would not understand, they look at sex with animals like a weirdness, something kinky and nothing more. Sometimes I've talked about it with them, but they cannot see true love in what zoo people do. So, I think I'll keep my secret...

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Posted by L337Zoo on April 2nd 2007, 23:08

As i havent had any zoo relationship yet..and not got the opportunity for a long while...it hasnt been a problem...as in i havent done anything/got many feelings yet.. but i could imagine..that if and when i do.. it would be a case of keep it well hidden..

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Posted by blackjack53 on April 3rd 2007, 0:06

Like others have noted,I keep it to myself as well. It's definatly not something I would want to talk to others about,outide the forum As a couple have said,I too would like to find someone like minded to share with.

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Posted by gotstalked on April 3rd 2007, 0:15

Hide isnt the correct term, it still shows, but only in the ordinary ways.One cannot truely hide whats inside

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Posted by Homicide Horror on April 3rd 2007, 4:57

with people who are not into animals i dont really chat about it to but sometimes i just through it out there but really most people i chat to they know how much i love my dogs and could maybe assume but who the hell cares i am what i am haha and my gf knows so all things are good

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Posted by ontmale on April 4th 2007, 0:06

QUOTE (hot_not @ Apr 1 2007, 05:15 PM) Having just posted in related topic about telling others of our lifestyle, it started me thinking how we deal with not telling and keeping the secret.Having searched through the various threads( forgive me if I've duplicated) I can't see one that deals with this specificallyMuch has been mentioned on the forum about other peoples reactions when they find out about our zoo tendancies or how you tell them but I was wondering how others feel having to keep it a secret and how they deal with it.Whilst I am comfortable with my zoo tendancies as I'am sure most of us are, a recent situation with my g/f (who is so not into zoo) has made me feel guilty for having to hide it and defensive because she does'nt share my view of it.This is never happened quite like this before and I guess stems from her total distain and rejection of anything to do with sex with animals.So the question is do you hide/deny and how do you deal with it, and is it harder in a relationship? i hide it

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Posted by bfmv on April 4th 2007, 0:28

i hide my zoo feelings mostly because they're deviations from social norms (to put it very lightly lol).

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Posted by hot_not on April 4th 2007, 10:50

QUOTE (hot_not @ Apr 1 2007, 05:15 PM) So the question is do you hide/deny and how do you deal with it, and is it harder in a relationship? Some interesting replies, but still curious as to how the denial side which seems prevelent through the thread affects some of us.

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Posted by Shane J on April 5th 2007, 5:35

QUOTE (hot_not @ Apr 4 2007, 09:50 AM) QUOTE (hot_not @ Apr 1 2007, 05:15 PM) So the question is do you hide/deny and how do you deal with it, and is it harder in a relationship? Some interesting replies, but still curious as to how the denial side which seems prevelent through the thread affects some of us. To be honest, I'm quite aware that I deny it, even to myself. I don't like to think of it though as a form of self denial though, rather, a compromise. Ever since I moved in with my girlfriend and told her of my zoo side, we've never mentioned it. I can tell at times she wants to discuss it but she stops. I know it isnt healthy but I see many things I want in the future and personaly, I'm willing to make that compromise....I really want a life with her, but I cannot stop the need to indulge my zooishness. One day it will come down to the real issue...Shane

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Posted by Yme on April 5th 2007, 18:15

I've only told my girlfriend, other than her, nobody around me knows and I'd like to keep it that way.

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Posted by doglover98501 on April 6th 2007, 7:33

Well I told my GF a couple days ago. I was actually quite scared but figured she's always been very understanding and said she would love me no matter what I do or who I am. SO I put that to the test. I told her I'm on my way to class. I made the comment "Look up Zoophilia" Surprising she already knew what it was. She said she didnt have a big deal with it.Only reason why I told her. Imagine her coming home and seeing me and my lovable companion having intercourse. Yeah I could imagine, but now that she knows. She doesnt find it a big deal and is even interested in possibly trying it but highly doubtful she says. No big deal for me as long as she accepts me for who I am then ya know what I'm kewl with it.Plus I'm new here and I'm glad I finally found a place where there are people like me. I'm looking for friends in the Washington area so go ahead and send me a msg. Since I can honestly say it's kinda lonely not having anyone to talk to about Zoophilia who doesnt share that same interest.SMM

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Posted by KaihakuOokami on April 6th 2007, 7:38

Wow, i wish i could tell someone, i would love some friends like me. But sadly, i am a very shy person, especially about my secrets. Of course i will meet new friends here, too.

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Posted by doglover98501 on April 6th 2007, 7:42

QUOTE (squad917 @ Apr 2 2007, 12:16 AM) I hide it from EVERYONE! Everyone but two people, which I have became very close with and felt I could tell them about it, they're as kinky as I am and just seemed like they would be fine with it.Come to find out, one of them thought about it a few times and when I told her about it, she was like, "I've thought about trying, but just never have." I built her up and she had some fun with her female dogs, then about 2 months ago her friend gave his male lab to her, they play now But until I find another person like them, I'm not telling anyone. But I do drop hints with other, they're just not getting it. Oh well. I actually do the same things you do. By dropping hints. Ya see my closest friends I start out the conversation that someone online sent me a msg about zoophilia do you know what it is?I've mentioned that to a couple of my close friends. Ya see they think they know me very well. I'd like to say different. Because they answer back thats weird or I dont know I'll have to go look it up then come back and say disgusting blah blah blah. Anyways I'm actually willing to accept this lifestyle and other people who don't can go beep beep. Anyways society is too judgemental. Since I have a couple of guy friends who are and their funny as can be and know about style. Some lady friends of mine are also lesbians. So I treat this lifestyle like those but I won't come out and say it.

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Posted by Mintleopard on April 6th 2007, 8:05

There is only one person I'm friends with outside of the net that knows. I'm actually going to be speaking to my fiance about it in a week and a half when I travel to go see him for a few weeks. I'm hoping he'll understand as he says he loves me no matter what. But yes I do hide my feelings.Everyone knows I LOVE animals though, I've always been very passionate abut their welfare and avidly interested in all this animal. Some could assume but I come across as very much on the straight and narrow that I highly doubt anyone would suspect a thing. They just think I really love my dog, which of course I do!

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Posted by KaihakuOokami on April 6th 2007, 8:24

Hmm.. It seems odd to me that you can like a person and an animal as well. Don't you think it would be awkward liking both? Hey, but what do i know, i didnt know people could like both. Learn something new every day i suppose.

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Posted by doglover98501 on April 7th 2007, 0:34

QUOTE (KaihakuOokami @ Apr 6 2007, 07:24 AM) Hmm.. It seems odd to me that you can like a person and an animal as well. Don't you think it would be awkward liking both? Hey, but what do i know, i didnt know people could like both. Learn something new every day i suppose. It is hard to understand but it is entirally possible. (Knows from experience.) I've worked at this animal shelter for quite sometime and this same sib husky keeps on coming back. Poor thing I wish I could adopt her so much, but I dont have the money and since I still live in my dads house while going to college. My dad stated I must pay off all my bills save up enough money for some major operations (god forbid there will be) and he said he will probably let me adopt a dog. I find I always think about her. I even named her Sakura. The reason behind the name is I find her just as beautiful as a Sakura Tree in full bloom. (Quite breath taking really to those who have seen a sea of them. I didnt have a camera either). Whenever she sees me I notice she acts differently towards me than any other of the people. I walk into the kennel sit down and she comes right and gives me lots of kisses. I look forward to playing/groom/cleaning her kennel each day. When she gets adopted true I'm very sad but as long as the people adopting her treat her how I treat her I'm somewhat fine with it.Anyways since I've written yet another page LOL. Going back to work now.Enjoy the rest of the day Minna (everyone)SMM

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Posted by KaihakuOokami on April 7th 2007, 2:51

I see, well that is a truely touching story, I hated not having a dog, but if im not mistaken you have a girl friend as well. I'd say if you really love this dog save up your money, work overtime, if you REALLY love her/him then im sure you will find a way.

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Posted by doglover98501 on April 7th 2007, 5:40

QUOTE (KaihakuOokami @ Apr 7 2007, 01:51 AM) I see, well that is a truely touching story, I hated not having a dog, but if im not mistaken you have a girl friend as well. I'd say if you really love this dog save up your money, work overtime, if you REALLY love her/him then im sure you will find a way. Yes you are right I do have a girlfriend and I mentioned to her about what I was going to do and that I was a zoo. Her reaction oh it doesnt bother me but I can't really imagine having a dog inside of me, but your more then welcome to act out your zoo fantasies. I was also scared to death about telling her. I just said look up the word zoophilia and she already knew what it was. I got lucky in finding a real understanding woman. Plus she loves dogs but is not a zoo. She always asks me if I learned anything new etc etc. I'm also working overtime a lot. Plus my tax return is going towards my bills. So I have it all planned out. The only problem is if my dad really say yes. If he says no well then new goal save up to get a house with a big yard with a tall fence with Coyote Rollers. (www.coyoteroller.com) I think thats the website.

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Posted by KaihakuOokami on April 7th 2007, 6:33

Well, I would definently want to know (If I was you) if the dog is spayed or not. Because it would be difficult for your animal to be interested if she is not in heat.

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Posted by wolfiesman on April 7th 2007, 8:37

I have very open minded friends and tell them about itso yeah....thats about itmy mom knows toosorry my post couldnt be as interesting as the others, I guess im just lucky

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Posted by phxdave60 on April 7th 2007, 8:47

I have a hard time telling anyone about my desires. I stay away from anywhere I might be suspected of staring at animals, like a pet shop. I am afraid of being found out. I go to the zoo and stare at the animals, especially the bulls. There, nobody pays attention. I have told a few friends, but they are repulsed by my desires. Now, I keep them secret. dave.

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Posted by doglover98501 on April 7th 2007, 18:03

QUOTE (KaihakuOokami @ Apr 7 2007, 05:33 AM) Well, I would definently want to know (If I was you) if the dog is spayed or not. Because it would be difficult for your animal to be interested if she is not in heat. True. I'll be asking that today and i'll just state I have a friend who is a breeder and I told her about the malamute she said she was interested but only if she isnt spayed. yeah I know lying bad but I aint gonna tell about my desires.Plus I found out WA and my County has no laws against zoophilia. (Woot).Anyways off to the animal shelter.Ja NeeSMM

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Posted by lynnewants on April 7th 2007, 21:09

I tell very few people about my involvement in k9, but am open with a few friends who are also involved and understand me, and we can openly talk and share, this I think is good for us to have at least a few trusted friends. I hide my feelings to those that I dont know, but am open with those who are involved.

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Posted by fairry on April 8th 2007, 5:52

I just avoid giving any sign of my interest in dogs, which leads to some weird paranoid behavior, for it's not accepted by the society here.

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Posted by hambletonian on April 8th 2007, 6:20

Do I hide my zoo' feelings........ I'll say this much, I hide my feelings for Muffin as good as she hides hers for me..... When I'm around with my Muffin, grooming and caring for her with others around in the stable, I don't try to hide "it" and I'm sure everyone pretty much knows how close we both are. But do I go around telling everyone how "close" we really are or grab the first bucket I could find when she gives me a , NO....but there are moments when I really want to, if you know what I mean... Outside of this Forum (of course) I've not told anyone about my zoosexuality. But over the 18 years we have been together, I'm sure there has to be at least some who may look at both of us and.....well, there has to be at least a few who think I may or even know. If there are, I never had someone come up and ask me.Would I talk about or even make a reference to zoosex in general to someone that knows me? Probably not.If that person suspected I may but never got the nerve to ask me directly and we were talking anything relating to zoophilia, they just may be thinking to themselves "I always wanted to ask him and since he brought up the subject, here is my chance"...or something like that.If I ever had someone ask me direct, I have no idea what I would say. I'm sure it will depend on the "situation" of the moment and how they ask....you know, in a weird kinda way, even I would like to know what I would end up saying if this ever came up.One thing though, if someone ever did ask and I did confess my true love for Muffin and their reply to me was "hey, I just knew you were 'cause I'm a zoo' too!"....that will be a moment that I will never forget.

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Posted by darkshadowsearcher on April 9th 2007, 2:55

QUOTE (hot_not @ Apr 4 2007, 12:50 AM)Some interesting replies, but still curious as to how the denial side which seems prevelent through the thread affects some of us.How does living in denial affect me? Well, for years I was in denial even to myself. Not consciously, but it wasn't until I found BF that I realized/admitted that I was sexually attracted to dogs. Before that, I knew I sometimes got turned on around certain dogs, but I mostly ignored the feelings, or at least never thought about why I had them. And for someone who does a lot of introspective thinking, that's pretty impressive! Mainly I just don't say anything about the depth of my love for dogs. Being a zoo doesn't change how I act towards dogs. I have always been a dog person. I love to play with dogs, wrestle with them, pet them, cuddle up on couches with them... it's who I am, with or without the secret sexual attraction. It helps that zoos are such a minority. I mean most "normal" people seeing me wrestle around with a big dog are at worst going to think I'm being unsophisticated. At best they would see someone who's not afraid to really get down and play with a dog. It would probably never occur to them to wonder if there's anything sexual going on between the dog and me. Why would they? People "don't do that" so they won't wonder if I do, because doing it wouldn't occur to them in the first place. So for the most part simply not saying anything protects me. But I am still living in denial of my true feelings for dogs. With most people it doesn't matter, I would hardly go around anouncing the details of my sex life to to strangers anyway. But for family and close friends, it does hurt that I can't tell them. They know I love dogs a lot, that I care deeply about my dogs, much more so than the average pet owner. But they will never really know just how much dogs mean to me, because I have to hide it. And when I do get a big dog again someday, they won't realize that there's a whole other level to the relationship. I guess knowing there's a whole side of my life I can't share with my friends and family means I'm not as close to them as I could be. It's sad. I will always have to hold something back no matter how close we are. I think it makes me a bit more lonely, a bit less trusting. Being a zoo isn't something my family would ever understand. And It's hard to really trust anyone when you have a secret that you know would horrify them. Of course, I was a bit of a loner even before I had any idea I was a zoo, so... For me hiding the fact that I'm a zoo emphasises the "alone against the world" thing, but it didn't cause it. I think it's like living a double life. I always have to be careful not to let something slip. Always being aware, being cautious not to accidently mix things up. And having to pretend ingorance and disgust if zoophilia is ever mentioned...That's the hardest for me. At times I want to blurt it out, just to be able to tell someone everything. But they wouldn't understand, and once you say something like that, there's no going back. So I keep quiet. It makes me feel isolated and lonely sometimes, but I figure better lonely than reviled. Besides, that's what's so great about BF, being able to just hang out with other zoos!! DarkShadow

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Posted by phxdave60 on April 9th 2007, 6:14

We got to live a double life--or, risk being ostrazied. dave.

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Posted by hornyinsocal on April 9th 2007, 6:37

Thanks Phx dave, that was hot.. reminds me of my (late lover) kahn..he was always hot like that..(damn I miss him)that was a great vidieo ..take care and be safe..horny in so cal..

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Posted by bighorse6969 on April 9th 2007, 8:10

I haven't told anyone, except here in cyperspace. I am married and she doesn't know I have sex with our QH mare.I also like male animals, but have lhad little oppertunity with them.

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Posted by Infinity's End on April 9th 2007, 8:34

I have only told one person who means something to me, he's a close friend here online, doesn't know me in real life, and the only reason I told him is because he is gay, and understands my situation. Then BF is a given.Everyone else in the world, nope. Nuh-uh, ain't happening. Ever. (Sorry, but I'm already pretty emotionally unstable, I don't need society's cold eyes glaring at me, I'd go insane.)

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Posted by silverwolf768 on April 10th 2007, 4:04

I can't really envision myself ever being able to tell anybody since I've been burned in the past by things FAR less potentially damaging than this. Every time I think I can trust someone, they prove to me otherwise. I do find it depressing that I am effectively living 2 lives, but really, what choice do I have?

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Posted by akaricloud on April 10th 2007, 5:28

Sadly I hide my zoo feelings. I wish that I could tell people I know, but it probally wouldn't go over well and could potentially ruin my life. I just hope to make likeminded friends here and hopefully find someone who accepts me for who I am and what I like.

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Posted by petbows on April 11th 2007, 6:53

I consider myself to be quite an open person when I deal with people. I find that either people accept you or they do not and life is way too short, especially as you get older, to please people that may or may not be in your life for long periods of time.Many people know about my D/s lifestyle,I don't advertise it but then I don't hide it either. However, zoo, I do find myself hiding. Not so much for the fact of what people think but because of the laws. A few close friends those that are not into alternative lifestyles know, but these are people that I can speak with honestly about anything. They do not agree or understand but they aspect me because I am their friend, and I suppose, that I don't bring up the subject unless I'm having a problem and need an ear.As for relationships most people I have been involved with have known. Some were like ok, so I am not into that but if you are, well those are your desires; others were ok, I understand I am as well. I did have a bf that could not accept that part of my character and so I made consessions to be in the relationship anyway knowing I was closing off a part of myself that makes me, well me. Needless to say, the relationship did not work out, not due to zoo but because life got into the way. As much as I closed that part of myself off, I grew in other areas that I may or may not have been able to do if i wasn't in that particular relationship. Would I do it again? I don't think so, it would have to be an exceptional person. but then I have had my pup for some time and where I go he goes, so I can't say I'd be looking for anyone that didn't want the both of us, or the future pup I am thinking of getting next year.

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Posted by doglover98501 on April 11th 2007, 17:13

sorry to hear that petbows. My current GF supports me 100% about my lifestyle. Her comment was just don't loose interest in me and we'll be fine.Anyways I do agree with ya it is hard to find someone who is into this lifestyle and I also only hide because of the Laws. In my state you can get the highest rated felony. Which is STUPID, but the government and laws are so messed up and the people who run our government have their heads shoved far up their beep. Anyways glad to have ya .Ja NeeSMM

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Posted by Shooo on April 12th 2007, 2:08

I've only participated in private and have told anybody of my interest or past experiences. I too lived a D/s lifestyle for a short time and my sub was very interested in it as well, but at that time I didn't feel I could tell her that. Thankfully I had not, because that relationship did not last but a year. We were open about our D/s relationship with others and had no problem talking about it. However I feel it was our age difference, I was 23 at the time, she was 46, was the cause for more confusion amongst others. That and the fact that I lived in the same house as her husband and teenage daughter. I learned alot in that year... I would love to share it with another, but not likely in a relationship. Only a really good friend who I share it with who also had interest and wanted to participate with me.

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Posted by Meneaskus on April 12th 2007, 2:30

I've never actually done anything with animals, I just enjoy watching it and am still waiting for the day to come. I couldn't manage to tell anyone that i'm interested in it, there's no way I could tell anyone that I do it when I manage it. I make myself feel better by dropping hints at it sometimes though, like if a girl walks past and a friend says "wow she's hot" I may sometimes say something like "if she had fur and a tail", they don't click on, they think i'm joking. But it somehow makes me feel better just doing that

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Posted by doglover98501 on April 12th 2007, 3:12

I've actually always imagine dog girls. Check out sexyfur.com. Good drawings with horse chicks, rabbit chicks, dog chicks, fox chicks, etc. I signed up for a trail and saved EVERYTHING. Hehe I have it on my hard drive but I don't give it out since I don't support Priacy or whatever it's called. Though I will say if only someone could genetically mutant and make someone look like them. Man I'd say hell yeah I'd date her in a heartbeat. Plus there wouldnt be any law against it. MUHAHAHAH.Anyways I hints. I have friends who live in certain parts of germany where it's legal to make love with a dog. I asked some of my friends about zoophilia saying yeah a friend of mine in german that I chat with (I talk about her a lot) mentioned something about zoophilia. WHat is it? I get this look like are you stupid. Eventually I get my answer either with them looking disgusted about the fact or actually interested and I'm like oh really. I can act quite well and no one has suspsected me of zoophilia and if they do well they have no proof and I can lie quite well. (Yeah i know it's bad but hey we all do what we gotta do to survive .)Love ya all.ZOO FOREVER!! SMM

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Posted by SuperSwede88 on April 12th 2007, 20:54

I hide my zoo feelings for everyone except one really close friend and you people on this forum.my family already knows about it cause they have found zoostuff on a computer I shared with the family. They will never accept it. I've told them I dont have any feelings for animals any more but thats not trueI'm laying low with everything conserning horses.

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Posted by hot_not on April 24th 2007, 18:41

Bump as there is some really interesting replies here.

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Posted by 420foggybong on April 25th 2007, 11:51

i love my dogs so much when were alone and in front of others who dont know i just spoil them rotten

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Posted by doglover98501 on April 25th 2007, 17:53

QUOTE (420foggybong @ Apr 25 2007, 02:51 AM) i love my dogs so much when were alone and in front of others who dont know i just spoil them rotten Lucky dogs . I can't wait to get my own dog. I miss not having one after Bear .

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Posted by BI-BABE696 on April 25th 2007, 18:00

Wow, Hottie, what a subject this one is... I bet some of us could write a book about it, but 'with soooo little time, and soooo many pups...', it'll be a hard thing to do. BB~~~

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Posted by Homicide Horror on April 25th 2007, 22:10

well i really dont care what people think and i love it so pretty much alot of people know about it and they dont care as well

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Posted by doglover98501 on April 25th 2007, 23:05

QUOTE (Homicide Horror @ Apr 25 2007, 01:10 PM) well i really dont care what people think and i love it so pretty much alot of people know about it and they dont care as well Wow what state ya live in man.I wanna move there LOL.SMM

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Posted by KaihakuOokami on April 26th 2007, 3:27

Yeah, it's hard sometimes, but it makes it up in the end. I believe that if the people who really care about you found out, they would still care. I don't think many people care what you sleep in bed with night anyway. People can't look at anyone and say he/she's a zoo. I've only told one person who i really was. It went fine, but that relationship eventually crashed and burned (for reasons other than my confession). But those who really care about you will be those whom are zoo too or those how can accept it. That's how i look at things anyway.

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Posted by doglover98501 on April 26th 2007, 17:13

Kaihaku. That is so true well explained .I also like your signature too.

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