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Its seems like its okay for zoos to watch women having sex with animals but when a man does the same thing, he is somewhat flamed for it. I wonder why? Is it their preface, double standard, or some sort of internalized prejudice. So what are your thoughts on this?
I wouldn't "flame" him for it. I just don't want to watch. I have looked t some of the male/animal photo postings here and they just don't do anything for me. I don't have a problem with it though.
QUOTE (Tabby104 @ Mar 29 2007, 06:15 PM) Its seems like its okay for zoos to watch women having sex with animals but when a man does the same thing, he is somewhat flamed for it. I don't understand your point? I haven't seen were men are flamed for anything on this forum.
While i havent seen anyone being flamed for it, the double standard does exist.Examples:Women that sleep around, Society thinks of them as "easy" Slut" etc. But if a guy does it, he's cool.Lesbian's , the straight guy thinks its hot, but make them watch 2 guys and they get disgusted.I figure it like this, as long as everyone's having a good time its all good to me.G.S.
QUOTE (silkythighs @ Mar 29 2007, 11:38 PM) QUOTE (Tabby104 @ Mar 29 2007, 06:15 PM) Its seems like its okay for zoos to watch women having sex with animals but when a man does the same thing, he is somewhat flamed for it. I don't understand your point? I haven't seen were men are flamed for anything on this forum. Sorry about that. I should put that post differently and/or reword it. I not saying than men are being flamed on this board. I was just trying to say that why do zoos like to watch women having sex with animals over men. I been thinking about this for quite some time.
WellOk I am very comfortable with both men and women with both sexes of animals.I lean toward er aaa for the sex wellll dont lookOK I will become a peeper if you are male with a male GSD.I said itwell maby not peep but the sites movies are goodall rightcan I watchthats betterpolitically correct.And if the dog comes and the guy does not swallow is that sexno in the news it wasentBut it wasent a dog eatherI am confusedWe need to ask CohortHe knowsRus
Hi Tabby, Well for me I much prefer watching guys having sex with mare,gelding,stallions or k9s then I do with watching women. As for why women are shown more than men,well thats the way it's always been,either with zoo or no-zoo sex. I guess I go along with rus again
Ok I understand you point now. It clearly has to do with consent. I often myself fear for female dogs who might be exposed to unwanted advances from men. With women and male dogs, this is a non issue. How can a woman ever force a male dog to have sex? So sure, I sometimes cringe when a male posts a thread asking how do I my female dog.
well I'm just more interested in women with male dogs.. don't have anything against men with other animals at all. some of the men/mare stuff turns me on too.. i just have a tendency to go towards the women with male animals, cause that's what I want to do. kinda hard for me to do much with a mare or bitch, eh?
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i have to say i haven't seen any flaming either. by the way, I WOULD HIGHLY ADVISE AGAINST DOING THAT EVER, lest the moderators rip you a new one and take the ultimate step of kicking your ass out.anyone who posts pics and videos does so with a great deal of courage (and a tremendous amount of admiration from me for their efforts), and i'm not about to flame that person....i'm going to praise that person and tell him so and give him "10" votes.if you don't like pics or videos that someone posts, if you can't say something nice it's best to say nothing at all and move on to the next post.cliff
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QUOTE (silkythighs @ Mar 30 2007, 12:11 AM) Ok I understand you point now. It clearly has to do with consent. I often myself fear for female dogs who might be exposed to unwanted advances from men. With women and male dogs, this is a non issue. How can a woman ever force a male dog to have sex? So sure, I sometimes cringe when a male posts a thread asking how do I my female dog. Oh I see. Well there are some who may take advantage of that. Depending on the question and they way how they put it, it makes me wonder if the person really loves his animals or not. Its not the question, its how it was asked and said. Oh and I never heard of an woman forcing a male dog. It might be possible.
Well for me, watching a woman with a dog or horse is just easier on the eyes. I certainly don't begrudge men anything and I wish ALL zoos who respect and care for their partner all the best and many, many nights of fantastic sex. I understand silkythighs comment regarding consent as well. It's obvious with male dogs and women that consent is given. Much less so with men and female animals (though mares are pretty good at spelling out their consent for ya I think that point alone may answer your question. I might get in trouble here, but I think some people seeing a man with an animal might think "perv". Those same people seeing a woman with an animal might think "kinky". So from that perspective as far as it being "ok" to see woman with animals it might be just that simple....a matter of perceived consent.
The consent issue may be part of why people might look down on it, but even if in the video it is clear the animal is consenting, people like to see a male animal and women for two bigger reasons.....1. Intensity. People like to see the animalistic, hardcore, intense humping of the animal with a women... the sex is so intense and energetic it is a big turn on. A man with a female animal doesn't have that, the sex in some respects isn't even as good as "normal" man/woman sex because the dog/mare/etc usually just lies there and enjoys it, no moaning, rarely humping/winking, and no clit/body rubbing (by the female). Men also don't have knots or horse size members that flare.2. Cum. A human can only ejaculate so much A dog's is a bit more liquid-like so usually spurts out all over which is a turn on (almost like the intensity is being released all over), not to mention they usually ejaculate more... it may take longer, but that is another turn on. A horse's cum may be similar in thickness but they ejaculate tons more, and of course have a huge member to shoot it from. Again, the man/female animal doesn't have this, and most times the guy pulls out to cum because if he does while inside you wont even see but a drip.Dont get me wrong, I enjoy male/female animal vids, especially the few "sloppy seconds" videos out there, but woman/male animal vids many times are more of a turn on... however, I would rather watch man/mare or a horse mating vid then a woman/stallion since many of the woman/stallion vids I have seen have fake cumshots, no humping, low quality, and/or excessive moaning.
QUOTE (rus80 @ Mar 29 2007, 11:58 PM) We need to ask Cohort Okay, since Rus asked, I'm going to try to answer this one. I presume you mean in general society and not on the forum? I'm not aware of any flaming in this regard on the forum. ...or at least the mods do a great job of cleaning it up if there is.Okay, so my answer has to do with public reaction. That it's fun/naughty to go to mexico (US example) to watch a "donkey show", but that a guy caught in the act is a threat to society. I think there is a strong double standard, and it goes something like this...When women are involved with an animal, people can accept that her role was more passive and that it was unlikely the animal was forced. I realize this isn't necessarily true, but I believe that is what most people are most likely to think.When men are involved with an animal, people view that as an aggressive or predatory act, and that it is unlikely (or at least totally unclear) that the animal was a willing participant in the act. Again, not necessarily true, but more people are most likely to believe it is true.This is also why when men are caught at bestiality, it is often implied that they are a threat to children. There's no connection, except the one that exists in the minds of many - that this is someone who forced himself on a helpless creature. And if he'd do it to one helpless creature, why not another?....but it all stems from (I believe) the inherent belief that a woman's role is passive (she is acted upon) and a man's role is active, if not outright aggressive. This is also why women are far FAR less likely to be accused or convicted of "rape".I'm not saying these are my beliefs, but definitely understand why people would feel this way. Regardless, I think they are the prevailing beliefs - and so that is my answer!! Edit - Looking back, this seems to be what silky said, as well.
Well, I salute all those hard-working cocks over in the Male Home-Made section. And for now at least, any original material that I can post would belong there.
In my very limited and very recent bestial experience and infrequent, but fascinated participation in the BF site I woud just like to say as a straight married male, I find that most of the pics and videos (the ones I can view) are sexually arousing. That includes the male on male, the mating section and of course any of the female forums.I tend to stay away from piss and stuff and interminable pics of dog arses and the like, but that's about the extent of it for me.
It is likely due to the nature of your average male or female human sexual act. Simply put, men penetrate and even if they don't are perceived as stronger, and more aggressive. Women 'get' penetrated, and even if they're using an object or performing fellatio it would be viewed as more sensual and less threatening.It can also be due to the idea that most females (including animals) aren't sexual and are to be assumed never to initiate anything, whereas the horniness of males (especially animals) is always quite apparent and obvious as something changing shape.I also think a lot of people here may be more erotically attracted to zoophiles than the animals themselves (I know I am). While there haven't been any polls I know of, I would guess there are more men than women on this site (or really, any other porn fetish site, or on the internet in general) and since most people are heterosexual (though probably not as many in fetish sites since fetishists are more openminded) there can be a degree of homophobia. The lack of a human female in a picture takes away their stimulus and frustrates them, but rather than address that it might simply be protested during confusion.
There is just something incredibly primal about a male animal "taking" what he wants, and a determined and eager male obviously has no consent issues.So (since I am a hetero man), male dog + woman is the combination here that is hot to me. In fact most of the other discussions on the site tend to have a major "yuck" factor for me, but if no animal is being coerced or harmed, I guess to each their own.
QUOTE (Tabby104 @ Mar 29 2007, 11:15 PM) Its seems like its okay for zoos to watch women having sex with animals but when a man does the same thing, he is somewhat flamed for it. I wonder why? Is it their preface, double standard, or some sort of internalized prejudice. So what are your thoughts on this? OK, let me toss in my 2 cents here cuz this is a hot button for me. Plain and simple, it's the world's double standard. If a female goes out and gets some, she's a slut. If a guy gets lucky, he's a stud. I have had guys flat ask me if I am satisfied w/ my dog. (By the way, YES!!!) But I'll bet they would never ask another guy that. Purr-haps, it's cuz women are "catchers" and men, "pitchers"? Who knows?
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I'm personally "turned on" by simply watching mating videos (horse/horse, dog/dog, and wolf/wolf). I'm hetero (in the human vein), and I'm not turned on seeing another human male's body. If it's a "jack" video, where a horse, wolf, or dog is involved, and I don't have to see a human male's "equipment", then I like the video. Concerning the human female/animal videos or photos, it seems I'm "turned on" lately seeing a human female with a horse/dog/wolf female, or just simply a gal teasing or stroking her male horse/dog/wolf partner. I've been dissillusioned by practically all "professional" zoo videos, as I know 3/4 of them (with horses, mainly) are "rigged". I'd rather see a video of a woman having her first experience with her dog/horse/wolf, and exploring and finding out what she likes (and what her animal partner likes), rather than watch some "pro" spend 20 minutes touching herself, only to spend 2-6 minutes with her animal lover, and watching her regurgitate milk (or whatever the heck it is), or seeing a translucent tube spewing out "some" ill hidden somewhere on her lover's penis. And, that posturing in most "pro" videos where the woman schmoozes the camera, making exaggerated facial expressions...puh-leease. Let's get real..I watch animal videos to see the animal being pleasured, and when 3/4 of a video is spent on the gal touching herself and oohing and ahhing..give me a break. Having a horse or dog in the background while the woman masturbates herself isn't a "beasty" vid. Yes, I'm picky, and i do exercise the "If you don't like it, watch something you DO like" rule. Which means I forgo 90 percent of beasty vids. I'm just glad there are numerous folks on BF who seem better equipped to make a vid or photoseries and, in MY opinion, make FAR better videos than the "pros" do. (I confess, my favorite videographer on BF is Knotty. I'd rather pay my "elite subscription" to get to see HER videos, than to fork out 30 bucks to a "pro" website that only features faked videos)..and I've been to MANY "pro" websites that have videos that will never compare to the vids I've seen here on BF made by REAL zoophiles & animal lovers.
See I dunno. To me (a guy by the way) a guy who goes out and screws anything that moves is just as disgusting as a woman who does the same thing. But then again, I am a little old fashioned.
I personally dont care who does what. I do agree with some others when people are asking how to their female dog. I have always been worried that the dog may get hurt, or bite the man for an unwanted advance. SOme people just dont know that animals can say NO too
i am a male ,i do dogs ( females) and a mini-mare it does not turn me on to watch men with bitches or mares although a bitch when in heat can be very receptive and a mare also you very seldom see that in pics or videos in video i did see that was hot was of a pretty well hung guy doing a pony mare she was obviously enjoying it because with every stroke he made she was winking hard i think it was posted by poneze.
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